WHO WERE REALLY HELEN'S IN REALITY ?
The renowned scholar Mathieu Arefi in a facebook post has listed some intersante theses on the current Hellenic and Greek.
Here's his full post:
To give a correct answer, I need to have a correct, error-free question. As for the emergence of HELENE after the eighth century before our era (GREEK, so call it all the world today) and the invasion of pelvis fires, this is clear in all my works and my thesis. What do you write here ("meanwhile, the term" Greek "dates back to the first centuries of our era, named after the Romans, according to a tribe who lived in South Italy and was called" Graecoi. "The question arises: What is this Greek alphabet, about 800 years ago, at the time when the Greek term did not exist at all ?! ") You are wrong or misunderstood or misunderstood. The term "Greeks" dispersed the Romans in the time of Aristotle (-384-322 BCE), ie, between the fourth and third centuries before our era, and not in the first centuries of our era as it is written. Secondly, they were not "South Graeco" from South Italy, which is not possible to say or write !!
Here's what I've written in some articles here at FB:
1. ALPHABET called Phoenician or Greek
The adaptation of the Phoenician alphabet, elaborated by adding vowels (end of the VIII century), was put into use around the VII / VI century. According to Herodotus (V. 58 - II, 49), the alphabet was introduced to Greece (Beot) by Kadmos Phoenician. The Caliph's Eubians will have been introduced to Kume around 750 (inscriptions in the Nestor's Cup): heavy break because Euboea did not know the alphabet in that era. Some think that Greeks and Phoenicians have lived side by side (Kume, El Mina, Cyprus ...?), In a sufficient number of ways, from where they borrowed their alphabet. The Latin author Plini disagrees with these hypotheses.
But it must be added that before Pliny, Dialdo of Sicily (<-90 /> +30) has spoken of that alphabet. The irony is that the alphabets (Greek, Etruscan and Latin) derived from the alphabet called "Phoenician" were indeed of Pelasgian origin. The Greeks usurped that alphabet to be rewritten to write their mixed language by the Pelasgian and other languages especially the Semi-Egyptian. The diodor of Sicily (Historical Library - III, 67; V, 74 and following §§ 3. c.) In turn said that from the beginning, this alphabet was called "Pelasgians" and that this was not a Phoenician. He added that the latter served as a transmission band, ie they took Pelazges on Crete Island, returned to Phenicia and then passed on to the Greeks on the side of the Phoenician Kadmos, the one who attacked Pellazg's place in Beot. How long will Herodotus have not figured that the Pelasgians (in his time, that is, the first century BC) had their writing. So I say that with the arrival of the Greek invaders the Pelasgians lost the use of scripture in their tears: an alphabet usurped by Helenes.
However, from the end of the archaic era and during the classical era, the Greeks spoke only one language and understood between them, regardless of the variety of their dialects (arkado-Cypriot, Ionian, Eolian, Dorianishte ...). But everywhere they lived between or surrounded by people who spoke a whole variety of languages. Because of the multitude of tribes (some call it peoples!) Who spoke this language, they believed that they spoke many different languages in numbers, while a single language was spoken, but in different dialects or accents. They called barbarian peoples, who, in the sense given to the classical age, were those who spoke a "incomprehensible" language, so different from Greek.
These Greeks among the countries they occupied were few in number in that early era. It was a caste of leaders who underwent the country by expelling the leaders or kings of the cities they invaded (Danaos Egyptian in Argos, Kadmos Phoenician in Tebe, Pelopsian Azianiku in Lakedemonia, etc ...) So these Greeks (Helen) arrived with language and culture Theirs. But very soon they assimilated a large part of the language, culture, religion, ancestral myths of the autochthonous pelagic populations. They adopted the culture and civilization of the occupied peoples while bringing a host of fragments of their culture and language. To be completely immersed in the autochthonous population they ended up creating a deceptive genealogy in order to believe that they were also autochthonous. This latest idea reincarnated repeatedly, almost in all of their religious ceremonies and politico-social celebrations. The fact is that they are in a country that was not theirs and where the majority of the ethnic-Albanian population spoke a foreign language. With the passage of time and the influence of Pelican trunk populations, the Greeks' talk had some changes in the provinces (accents, dialects). This distinction of speaking is at the origin of the Greek dialects, which are renewed in different tribes called the Ionian, Aeolian and Dorian. So, starting from language or dialectal divisions, ethnic divisions were artificially created.
Later commentaries give information that in ancient times the ancient populace (pellazgea) had maintained an emphasis and a different speech from the other three: Arkadi (as by chance one of Pellazgas) and Cyprus (colony the ancient Pelasgian, surnamed Mycena, which was the base of the Philistines / Pellazg before attacking Egypt and the land that would become "Philistine"). That is why these penis scholars created the Arcadian-Cypriot dialect, which they declared as the oldest of Greece and close to the pre-homeless population mistakenly treated as Greeks ancestors. But Arkady-Cypriot has maintained numerous approximations with the ancient Pelasgian (surnamed Mikhane). Does not this legend tell us that Evandri, born in Arkady, was the first man to put the Pelasgian alphabet in Italy and more precisely in Latium on Mount Palatine? For a long time, Arcadia maintained true clay and traditions of the Pelasgians. This is the only province of central Greece that has been known to be preserved and formed as an ancestral tradition much after the conquest of the Helen.
2. The name GRAIKOS ... GREEK
According to some authors of Antiquities, the "Sons," priests and interpreters of Dodona's Pelasgian Zeus, had a Pelasgian tribe called "Gracoi, Graikos" (Graeci, Graeki, Graii, Graiai), "worshipers of the cult of the elder woman"; it is likely Dodona's "Goddess-Earth", which appears in a triple form: Greeks living in the Aeropos valley. These "Grees" (ie "Women, Women" in Albanian) born by Forcis and Keto as well as Gorgon's sister were three (Pefredo, Enio and Dino). But the Helenes will later replace the matriarchal cult of the "Greeks" with that of Patriarchal «Helles». Many pelagic things have been replaced (and mixed) by Helen.
Aristotle (384/322 BC), in his book "Meteorology," (I, p. 14), places them in the upper regions of Pind, "in the outskirts of Dodona and Apalos." According to him, this region had a terrible flood, that of "Deucalyption" (as "Noah" of the Bible). But none of the modern researches, such as archaeological and geological ones, have made it possible to prove this Aristotelian legend and thesis: there was no trace of a great or small flood.There Aristotle thought that "the oldest Hellada was peri-Dodonian." But Stephen, born in 58 BC (III centuries from Aristotle!), did not he claim that Epirus was "of Pelasin origin"? On the other hand, Aristotle is not mistaken as he asserts that the Helenes were the neighbors of Selloi, the famous priests of "Zeus pellazg." This name, Selloi, turned into Helloi (S = H) It is, however, irreducible that the cult of "Greeks" (Albanian: Women!) was replaced by that of Hell. It is likely that Aristotle is at the origin of confusion, which still persists, and that he caused the Helenes to come from the "north" (a hypothesis entirely unknown by the ancient authors of Aristotle's ancestors) of Greece and that the doctrinal historians of the nineteenth century and the beginning of the twentieth century (Nazi doctrine), have gone even further, boasting the Nordic origin of the Dorian, "a white, pure, disciplined, martial and virtuous race"! While these Norse were simply "Illyrians," not the Helenes who had long ago lived in this famous North of Greece (not Northern Europe as some think)!
Most likely, "Gracoi or Graikos" derive from the name of these "Greë or Graia". The pellazg-Albanian woman name will be created by the word "(n) garkoj" which means "let's get pregnant" and "(n) garkua" = get pregnant. The other meaning implies that it is "upload" (gegely = garkua). It should be noted that the gegal dialect of northern Albania, the one closest to the ancient Pelasgian, does not use the attachment or duplication of the different consonants, quite different from the dialect of Tosk, placed under the communist regime (believing they were making the unification of two dialects as the literary and official language of Albania in 1972!): "garkoi" (gegely garkoj) instead of "upload" (toskno upload), or "diq" (geg.) instead of "dying" (tosk.) , or "maroï" (geg. maroji) instead of "finishing" (tosk.), etc.
Only after this discontinuation of the influence of the matriarchal cult, the Helenes abandoned this cult and ultimately took their "patriarchal" cult (the Semitic Egyptian system), which spread all over Europe. But these "Gracoi / Graikos" were genuine Pellazgs and above all in close relation with some peoples of Italy, the Pelasgians (Mosses, Ippigs, Daunas, etc.). The truth is that the Romans spread (in the third century BC), without any deceptive purpose, the name of Grays (Graeci, Graeki, Graiki, Graikos) in the whole of the Helen, who, on the contrary, never referred to themselves as Gracoi Helen! They (the Italians) were embarrassed because they realized that the "Grailers" came from "Helada" as they came from the "hype" iliro-pellazg! The Romans finally used this strange etnonime to call Helen. This is one of Greece's many ancient paradoxes!
All this trickery is the result of this forced, double ambiguity, as well as the infinite wars between one part of the local Pelasgians and the first invaders of Achaea, Danae (Egyptians) and Kadmen (Phoenicians) which caused step-by-step quenching or dissolution of the Pelasgians, in front of this minority of new invaders. This trickery has occurred in other nations: England is derived from the "English" - German people; "Egypt", a name created by Greeks, but the Egyptians call their place "Misr"; "Germany" (name used by foreigners) is called by the people "Deutschland" (Dojcland); "Albania" by aliens is called Albania, Albanie, Alvania, Albanian, Arnaut (derived from the Greek "Arvanos"), etc., etc.
Finally, GREATER (HELADA) IS EXISTING BUT NOTHING THROUGH 2000 OR 2200 BC BEFORE TEACHING IN SCHOOLS, UNIVERSITIES, ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS, THE Internet OR ANOTHER BUT UNTIL THE THIRD CENTURY BEFORE OUR WINES AND especially after the invasion of Pelagic Trophies especially of Asia Less in the beginning of the seventh century about -680 BC. THIS IS THELBLE OF THE SEASON SEMINARED IN THE SORBON OF PARIS and in both of my BOOKS. THIS IS MADE with unquestionable evidence, compelling arguments, in-depth analysis, reliable references based on testimonies and clear assertions of ancient authors.
I have always fought against the fact that some Albanians (novices, amateurs or pseudo-historians or wrong historians) who are neither true scientists, true historians, nor linguists are fooled by spreading false ideas or false information. Before the Roman invasion in -146 there was no Greek state as if there were countries with certain trojans a president or king and with borders etc.
In those times and since ancient times there were Tirana, despots, oligarchs, leaders, clans clan, invasion, etc. There were mostly only "cities-sells" such as Athens or Sparta but were not involved in a particular state. They were the Romans (after -146 BC) who created a Greater Greece, where they included Epirus and Macedonia, while these two countries have never been part of Greece. And for more, Greece remained in a lethargic dream for more than 2000 years! What makes me angry and annoying is the fact that some claim without any convincing evidence or arguments that Greece did not exist before 1830, ie after its independence from Ottoman power !!! This is an arthritis that serves only to the interests of the enemies of the Albanian nation and that it does not serve either real science or historiography.
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