Proposal: Gridcoin Community/Information Organisator

in #gridcoin2 years ago

In my last post I described some of the problems I see with Gridcoin (some have not changed from a post I made a year ago).

I deliberately did not write everything I saw as problematic and avoided anything that pointed towards a solution. I wanted to see if others offer the same points and maybe even come to propose the same idea.

The idea I had, because of the developer payment discussion, is the following:

There are a lot of things that need to be organized or done, that are normally not done by volunteers (or people would could do more important things have to use their time for it) because it is boring, especially if you do them the tenth time in a year.
But when those things don’t get done, the life for everyone gets harder, especially for newbies.

I think we desperately need an organizer who has an overview over the whole Gridcoin situation and can – to use a bit of Bullshit Lingo – empower the volunteers, enable synergistic effects and take a bit of burden from active people to free potential.

Things To Do (some of them)

  • gather information and participants
  • report about any important stuff in the channels
  • make or organize additional material, like graphics, videos and translations
  • write explanations about Gridcoin and BOINC
  • keep FAQs, Wiki etc. up to date
  • write down summaries of the hangouts (this is probably the most boring thing of all ;) )
  • know who has access to which “official” accounts and keep contact (maybe act as key backup?)
  • organize community feedback: ask questions, make polls or inform about them, also feed back to developers
  • keep an eye on deadlines, like the developer payment, and make necessary arrangements before it is too late
  • generally: organize more transparency everywhere
  • do the accounting stuff (make a list of which works are approved, get billed and payed) and act as a general second pair of eyes where needed
  • visioning – fostering discussions about the future of Gridcoin as the number 1 beneficial coin!
  • reach out to possibly interested 3rd parties
  • answer questions in chats etc. or say who could answer them
  • actively look out for problems and offer solutions

Problem is, that is a lot of stuff, and one person is unlikely to succeed if that person does it “by the way” and not every day for a longer time.

My solution for this is:

The Community/Information Manager

I know that in crypto any sort of centralization is seen skeptical by a lot of people. But even the best swarm needs some organizational rules (even if the only rule is “do whatever you want” – you have to explicitly say it) and a platform for communication.

More important it needs someone who moves aside the boulders on the way so that the people participating can do what they can do best (where they have fun and think it is important).

The main question of the one doing that should be: What can I do for you that makes your work easier (and more transparent to others)?

This manager – or better, coordinator – will get paid to do this job. As I have said, there is a lot of boring and repetitive stuff in it and volunteers are very unlikely to keep doing it for an extended period of time. And even if they do, it will suck their energy away from doing the “real” stuff.

But lack of consistency is one of the worst things that can happen. Just after losing motivation of volunteers.

There are two possible solutions. Either we pay be the hour: let’s say 15$ per hour, half of current developer compensation and one fourth of what is in the polls at the moment.

Or we pay a “real job”.

Since there is a quite a big amount of work that should be done (and half of the time would be spend to inform you about that), and the permanent nature of many of the tasks, I think hourly billing is a bad idea. We need someone who does the above mentioned stuff on a daily basis and is answerable if it isn’t done.

The CEO – The Completely Egoistic Offer ;)

I offer myself for this job!

I offer that for 1500$ monthly, payed in Gridcoin, I work at least 100 hours a month (so roughly the same as when billing the above hourly wage) purely on Gridcoin related tasks as described above or what other tasks the community decides upon.

With current foundation funds and GRC worth, that amount can be paid for by interest, of course ignoring other expenses like devs. On the other hand, that may free more expensive dev hours.

That payment will be a sort of basic income freeing me to do the stuff that has impact instead of working just for money to survive.

Additionally I will be on “standby” in the different channels like discord, slack and steem to answer questions for approximately 10 hours a day. Yes, I am quite a net addict :D

Why you should take me

I have experience in all the areas needed!

  • I have experience in managing online volunteer groups
  • and know well how frustrating that can be ;)
  • My learned profession includes project management (btw. I was the best in class in the Berufsschule - trade school or vocational school(?) ) and accounting (yes, I can do double entry accounting).
  • I like to write FAQs and explanations
  • While not being a programmer, I have a basic understanding of programming and have written a few smaller programs aka scripts.
  • I am a natural bug hunter (in the broad sense – it also includes where people stumble and why) and solution-finder
  • I am a “see the big puzzle and arrange it in meaningful ways” person
  • ideas, lots of ideas
  • My Gridcoin adventure started in 2013, I saw it shortly after launch and thought that was the best idea I had seen in years, and I have already put in more then 1000 hours and several thousand €, so I really want it to succeed.
  • If a miracle happens and I run out of work, I can always write a novel about a Gridcoin-world ;) (currently that is place 4 on my novels-to-write list).

Please consider that generous completely egoistic offer!

And if you decide to say “njet!” than please think hard about an alternative. Because I really think we need to professionalize more. We have taken a few baby steps, but in the fast paced world of crypto we are already at a disadvantage with “slow”, science based Gridcoin, not to mention the resource disadvantage compared to coins backed by millions of risk capital.



Seems a bit broad, wouldn't it be better for funds to be allocated to tasks than hiring an individual to do them all?

If you mean you want to setup a barrage of small rewards for stuff that should be done but didn't happen for month... then I think that would just cannibalize volunteer's time and effort, replacing exterior with interior motivation and in the end leading to less work done.

Of course that is just my thoughts, nobody can know that before.

This is an interesting topic @lennstar.

Could you provide us the analysis (surveys?) based on which you came to the conclusion that setting-up a Community/Information Manager role will benefit the coin and the community?

For example, do you have any evidence that people posting on Steemit or other platforms "reporting about any important stuff" dislike this and would prefer to hand it to the Community/Information Manager?

I linked my last post about the problems at the start.

I think you got a bit of misconception here. Volunteers are not supposed to hand over stuff to the organizer. Quite contrary. The organizer is supposed to point them to where ther eis something to be done that they wan to do.

But there is a lot of stuff that should be happen but does not. And that (prioritized by the community) is what should be done by the paid4.
And I am quite sure that would benefit the coin ;)

I think there is potential here, however more detail is required -- a contract of sorts.

Moreover, I think a group of people would be better than one person.

That, or building on one of the several proposals already put forward:


Budget Proposal:

Treasury Structure Outline and Summary:

Moreover, I think a group of people would be better than one person.

Unfortunately, @lennstar, I don't think it is a good idea to put this level of responsibility in the hands of just one person. A team of people would be better. That being said, you have listed an excellent description of community tasks.

Hm... how to explain...

First, in case we really pay, several people are more expensive - either directly in money or indirectly in time they need to coordinate themselves.

Then: How would you split it up?

In case of the coordinator he can split up work to volunteers. After all, he should not stop people from contributing.
But for that and knowing what needs to be done you need a list done by someone who knows the stuff.

In case of one person, if he goes MIA you have the list and, because of the reports, a nearly up to date point f where to take up the work.
Several people again it is harder to tell if MIA and harder to take up the loose threads.

I think there is potential here, however more detail is required -- a contract of sorts.

Yes, of course there must be an agreement made.

The problem I see with the bot is - how does the bot see if the bounty goal is reached?
A human (well, 2) has to decide. But then a human can also do the payment.

Also my coordinator could put out and pay out small bounties in a flexible way - for example "500 GRC for making a video how to install Gridcoin and set it up"

Yes a human can do that to if there is one or two payments like that, but we need to trust that person that he not run away with the Coins and if there is something like personal problems or Vacation its hard to get the Coins paid out

From my Perspective can the Bot help to "Crowdfund" Projects with a lot of smaller Payments.
And if the System works, it will(hopefully) more used to set Bountys for smaller and biggger Projects where the Community can help.

The part how the bot decide if the Bounty goal is reaced, need some more thoughts.
For the Start will (i think) our main Devs Aprove the Changes and (not yet sure how) trigger the Payout.

Personally i agree with @cm-steem that this is very broad. If these ideas were to be implemented it would have to be spread across multiple people.

We need categories of jobs and peoppe who attend to those said jobs. There is a reason we have development marketing etc seperated. Ive seen what you have done and how you communicate but dont know you well enough to agree to such a position at this time however not against your taking on a category of roles to alliviate the work load from the list.

I like your ideas but the workload and responsibility is high and the concerns myself. The above tasks is not simply a one person job.


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Let the shitstorm begin!

btw. that coordinator would have a Steemit Account and the income from that would go back into the Foundation.
That's what I thought anyway.

I like the points that you make in this proposal.

I would suggest that instead of having only one person to do this, that it would be maintained by a group of volunteers.

I would love to contribute on some of the points suggested here. And would gladly help out with next to nothing of a payment.

I must admit though, that I am a person suffering of chronic pain after multiple operations on my back. But this sort of job helps me focus on something other than pain.

Also I believe that all the points that you have listed will be too much for any one person to cope with efficiently.

I'm upvoting your post solely because I believe this concept needs more discussion.

Cheers mate