eSteem feedback loop and reward, incentivization program

in esteem •  6 months ago

This is small announcement about update on eSteem feedback structure.

For those of you, using eSteem app daily might have already noticed that every time you use app you automatically receive some votes. Idea is to have users use app and formalize some way of receiving feedback.


I hereby, suggest you to post your feedbacks under #esteem-feedback tag and describe issue, provide screenshots and device details if possible, to help us improve and take eSteem step further. I will be monitoring #esteem-feedback posts to follow up with users and improve app, please use it for your suggestions as well.

With that said, there are some filtering and evaluation techniques used to determine voting of posts/comments made through eSteem. Abuse might get you blacklisted :)

eSteem is also running monthly spotlight series to reward its top users by giving away some SBD. Read this post for more info on eSteem Spotlight.

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Would you stop voting on this spam bot please?

https://steemit.com/@enlightenk/comments

Edit: Thanks!

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Yes, thank you! Blacklisted!

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Thank you very much @good-karma. You are indeed karma of the good variety.

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Appreciate the compliment! This small experiment taking unexpected turns in terms of last 24 hours there was dozen feedback and issue reports, suggestions. Kinda created extra work for myself :) but I love it, people are giving very constructive criticism about some issues and very good new feature suggestions, etc. And of course, some unavoidable abusers, will be monitoring and improving it.

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Shall i try this app? Am not sure really.

You discoverd new business model for mobile apps. Congratulation.

Indeed, I remmember my comments were upvoted before (for instance when I replied @good-karma in the v2 desktop post...  But that was it. 


So I suppose I was inadvertedly blacklisted on commets... Since I don't get any upvotes on them... 

Which actually almost discourages me from using the app, since I am still finding it easier to get to new posts from the webbrowser... (Lately googling things gets me to steemit.com). I still havent found a way to paste a link or search for a given post in the app.

I want to know how I can tell if I was blacklisted and if I can learn why, as I don't believe I could have done something abusive.


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Hey, You are not blacklisted. Desktop app is outdated and we are working on v2, wouldn't recommend use of v1 anymore. Please use eSteem mobile app, it should work just fine. ;)

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Nope. Just tried on another post from my mobile and nada, zero. I just wonder if I'll get some upvote here...
Nope, zero, again from my mobile.

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I am new on steemit.. so is there any mobile app of steemit for iphone?

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eSteem is mobile app for iOS and Android devices using same platform Steem.

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Thanks... I have downoaded it..

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Ok, I was blacklisted and not anymore? Who knows! perhaps it's glitchy.
(this second reply is made from google web browser, so I suspect no votes)

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Ok, just to say, that I just commented on another post from the desktop app again, and 0.00 upvote, as usual. I wish I could understand how this works...

hey good-karma! I'm seeing an error when I try to upvote from the app. It reads..

Error

Broad error, try again! First argument needs to be a number, array or string.

This is the post Im trying to upvote in app
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@immetal6669/siacoin-anaylisis-possible-breakout

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Hey @itchykitten, Yes it is known bug and we have fixed it, next release is coming soon with those issues addressed. Thank you for reporting ;)

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Ah thankyou =) it's very exciting, I haven't been using Steem on my phone because always going through the browser is a pain.

Image zooming. That's something I would definetly want to see on the app. Due to the down scaling on the images to fit on a mobile screen, certain images contain content (such as graphs) are difficult to see on smaller screens without being able to zoom onto the image.

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Hey @pabi, Did you know we have Gallery mode?
When you open any post with images, check on + button there is Gallery where you can only see images and zoom in/out and download image to save them on your device... :) Let me know if you could get it to work...

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@good-karma thank you for letting me know about this feature. I hadn't spotted it. However it would be awesome to have the ability to click on the photo to open up the gallery to the selected image. A bit like on the Quora app.

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I couldn´t find out how to zoom into on steemit.com either ..
any ides someone?

Furthermore, having issues on images display. It says image not available on every posts. I would really love to use this app, please fix those issues.
Many people nowadays rely on phones, especially if it's social media.

I love using the app. While it is a little buggy and at times will close on its own, it is still a very convenient method for very quick posts. I mainly use it for comments, voting, and replies.

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Thank you, these post is encourage more users and we are getting dozen feedbacks on parts that can be improved. Hopefully with next release we will address as many as possible.

Just getting back into steemit, I'm excited to see there's a mobile app even if it is a little buggy. Keep up the good work!

Great stuff! Please keep developing the app! There are still some quirks, but overall I'm just super grateful that it's available at all and that I can browse on the go! Thank you, good karma coming your way :-D

I love the app so much <3 but it only works on my galaxy phone. I have an ipad 2 that I rather use it on and it doesn't boot up on it.

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Hey @vangelov,
What iOS version do you have on that iPad 2 ?

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Its an older ver, because they don't support the 10.
Its 9.3.5

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Thanks for details, I will test out and see what can be done ;)

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It keeps on crashing for a while when I start using the app. Need to improve on navigations too.
I love the whole idea of this social network, you guys should have strong and effective app too.

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Thank you! It looks like you made comment from eSteem app :)
Could you elaborate on crash issues, what device you are on and when it happens?

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I'm using the app on iPhone 6s, when I click on the app it goes blank and I need to close the app and restart it several times to make it work.
While checking the new posts scrolling is not efficient, it opens every post with a gentle scroll.
It's a bit harsh on performance. Need to wait few seconds on loading pages.
Hope that will help to improve. 😀

One other question is: Do you get votes for any kind of posting, be it comments or articles, because i usually post articles from the PC, due to using editors?

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If posted from eSteem yes, but there are some filters used to determine voting and detect abuses...so not 100% guaranteed votes ;)

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Amazing work:)
You just made my rainy day a happy one ^^
Cheers on the outstanding work.

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Can you please give me a couple examples of abusing the voting system? I want to be sure that I never do something that will get me blacklisted. Thanks

So far the app feels very good to use
But there are few annoying things that bothers me.

  1. When Im typing a comment and then accidentally pressed the back button, the comment doesn't get automatically saved. The situation is similar for submitting a story.
  2. There is no way (at least i dont know) to refresh a page.
  3. I ownes a relatively high performance phone but it is very laggy to scroll down even at slow speed.

Thx @good-karma for developing the app again. Hope that these issues can be fixed soon :)

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Oh just caught one more issue.
When I was posting the comment above, it stuck like this for ~2 or so and then fininally something like baordcast error arises.

Here ia my screenshot
PS I'm using an android phone

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Thanks so much for the help. Last night I was getting the upvotes for comments and post. Sadly it suddenly stopped as it has started. 😂

But I've decided to join to a translation team and at least help that way with the improvement on the app.

Cheers from Mexico.

I'm trying to determine if I like the fact that when I post a story, the previous story is still visible in the form or would I prefer to start with a new slate. Pros and Cons? Is this my design or a glitch?

Thanks for developing such a good apps! I wonder will there be a desktop version released soon? I just downloaded the v1 but it is not functioning. Maybe it is obsolete already? I am really looking forward to the desktop or webpage version of esteem :)

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There IS a desktop version.... And a v2 is to be released...
https://steemit.com/esteem/@good-karma/esteem-announce-release-of-desktop-app

To make v1 work, read @goog-karma reply on my question in v2..
https://steemit.com/esteem/@good-karma/esteem-desktop-v2-sneak-preview-as-promised-201755t205645424z

I still had to use web browser to find the posts and even to reply this post (there is no reply button for comments, at least in this post)

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Thanks man you save my day!!!!

I have been noticing these votes confused and not knowing what's going on. But I appreciate it. For some feedback I'd love to see more response if you've scrolled far down the feed. Seems to lag a little bit 😢 but otherwise I love the app.

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Thank you! Yes, working on improving responsiveness when scrolled far down on feed. Expect some improvements with upcoming release ;)

Thank you for the good work. Practical interface, I like the app! Just to give a feedback for improvement: it crashed often on my iphone.

The first thing I did when I discovered Steem was checking the playstore if their was a App available. And there was! Very gratefull to use this app. It works perfectly fine for me ;)

Not used esteem yet, should you be using your posting code to log in?

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When logging in you can use your main password or enable Advanced mode to login with posting and active private key.

amazing!! i need to download the app actually, at the moment i only use computer and i find it easier to type, but i think it will be much easier to use the app for other things! i will report if there are any issues :) thanks for putting this together!

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Thank you Alla! App on mobile is handy for some quick interactions, indeed. You also get notifications for new Vote, Follow, Comment, Reblog, Mentions so you can interact with others quickly. We are working on some improvements with new release, but current version should just fine! Looking forward to hear your experience with it :)

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Ok brilliant, i am downloading it today!! thanks so much! i will keep you posted! it makes sense for updates and stuff and when I'm on the go to answer comments that would be really helpful ;)

I like the app.. I'm a littler concerned about the data consuming.

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Hey @jezequiel, Since last release we have Fetching images feature which helps you to save bandwidth and traffic on you mobile. Go to Settings page in app and disable Fetching images and app will start to disable auto image downloads and you manually tap on each image if you want to load them... let me know if it works ;)

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I will keep an aye on that .. So far is working pretty good.

Just would like to say tanks for your effort of the development of the app. I love to using it. I know it is still under development process and looking forward to the future update. I hope it could more fouce on the stablilty, as I used to experience the crash of the app. Looking forward to hear from you soon!

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Thank you Victorier! Yes performance improvements are underway, hope next release gives you better experience ;)

Hey @good-karma I didn't know if I had to crate a new post for this so I just replied on this post.

I noticed that some of my posts containing Headers are showing with the actual symbols ## (I mix html and markdown so that could be the cause). However on the mobile site on Android (chrome) it shows ok, a proper heather (bigger text and stuff) as well as the full site on my pc but on the eSteem app the heather shows as this

##/ This is a text

Here's an attachment
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#esteem-feedback

I was wondering why do I get so much upvotes. It has helped me and motivated me more to engage into eSteem app and the community. I've already posted an article on why should you try the eSteem app.

I admire your work! You do a lot for us! I wish you success!)))

@good-karma
#esteem-feedback

i am having an issue on the app. it is always crash since the day i instaall. it shows "broadcast error" .
I am using an android phone "Xiomi Mi 5".
hope you could have a look at that error.

ps: i dont know how to put thw screen shot in the comment.

Or I can simply leave a little comment here? The app is super, love it! HOWEVER, there is a mojor issue which almost makes it impossible for me to use it: Performance! Maybe it's because I use it on an iPhone 6 Plus, which only has 1 GB of RAM. The app is constantly crashing. After a few minutes using it, crash, gone. Also it's a bit tricky to open sites, sub-sites, comments, go back, navigating in general. It seems responding to finger tips is not optimal yet. This includes confusions the app seems to have. For example, several times when I clicked on "wallet" in my profile it displayed my last blog post in the content field. Please keep on improving, I'd really love to use the app more.

What you're writing above about the receival of votes, I'm not really sure what you mean, could you elaborate a bit how that works? Who is voting?

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Thank you for your feedback! Next version will address some of these issues and release is coming soon. Stay tuned!

What's the login situation? Not trying to be a skeptic. I applaud the app creation, but can you speak more on the security of the login with the app?

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You are right to be cautious about your credentials, I made few post talking about private keys on Steem, here and here and mentioned on my posts how eSteem handles security very seriously... At Login, all your credentials are stored on your device, nothing gets out. Every transaction is signed locally and only transaction hex is broadcasted through websocket address you choose (Settings page). We have also added extra security measures by introducing PIN code system, where you can keep app data secure. With that said, I am working on FAQ and will have it on http://esteem.ws as well point users.

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That's really great information. Thank you very much for passing it along. So awesome to see good development being done.

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It is not exactly auto voting, but it is combination and as I mentioned there are some filters... :)

suggestion: it's good if you can post the links to the app store in your post. easier for a lazy user like me (and many other) @good-karma

http://esteem.ws/ - :D

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Thanks, will edit post now! ;)

I can install esteem on my iphone 4S but never goes past of its first screen. I installed lasted available esteem version. An my friend runs it smoothly on iphone 6.

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Thank you for your feedback @prameshtyagi!
It is really helpful, I will look into this and with next release hopefully you will be able to use it...

Started using it few days ago, it felt a bit slow at start, but now its ok. Great work thank you! If there will be any issue I will report it.

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Thank you, looking forward to it. Note that update is coming within few days that should improve performance.

A truly wonderful application, it perfectly helps me out when I'm not at home and away from the computer. There is only one remark, it consumes a lot of traffic. I spent my monthly traffic limit for a week:-(

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Hey @erikaflynn, Have you checked last release notes? We have Fetching images feature where you can disable auto image downloads, it save up a lot of traffic. Once you disable it from Settings page, post images won't load automatically when you open post and you can manually tap on image to load/download it as you wish... Let me know how this works out for you :)

eSteem is really helphul. And this auto voting is like a reward just by using eSteem. 👍👍👍
But its only few percent of voting power. 😁

Just downloaded the app. So far, the app is great for me. Would give you feedback if any.

Download the app so hopefully one day it will be in the top 50 of most popular apps! Didn't know there was an app so great post!

I'm a user. It's good. I get a lot of broadcast errors, but it's a life saver on the commute. Thanks for making it!

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Thank you! Broadcast errors probably result of connection, but with next release I am working to handle it better ;)

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Want me to make a post about it? Esteem? I use it very frequently so I'd be happy to.

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Please, feel free to share your suggestions and bug reports via post by using #esteem-feedback. It will help to track errors and suggestions so we grow and improve together ;)

And this explains everything! I would not have been so confused/freaked out earlier if I had actually been following you like I thought I was XD

Eureeka...! I found good article lately. Good posting, @good-karma. Thanks a lot.

This app has to be developed perfectly. End of story. My mum will use it, my dad will use it, my friends are USING IT! My work colleagues are just jealous of me using it! In conclusion, I need to use it! =) I need this... if I had more time, I would help programing/fixing it. But time is mad at me... so I just keep helping as I can.

Will the user of the esteem application automatically receive a ransom automatically?

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It is feedback loop to improve app, get suggestions and bug reports. Users would just use app as they do everyday and rewarding is part of appreciation of their time and effort to make beta tests. Reward is not guaranteed or shouldn't be main motivation...

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This is a very good motivation, until when such an event applies?

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There is no deadline and let's see how this works out! :) If abused a lot, we will discontinue it...

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I have a bit of a problem making a post if I enter through the esteem application whether this will jeopardize my account, I am very afraid,

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We don't have access to you credentials and everything is done on your device and never leaves you devices, so it is safe, you can also enable PIN code security for extra safety 😉

It seems a very good and convenient app for me to use. Will upload and use this one. Thanks for sharing! Upvoted!

Hello @good-karma There is a glitch in the latest update, someone voted me once but notified me thrice. I really hope it will be resolve as soon as possible because I really like the app. TIA

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Hey @janreyqm1, I will check notifications settings... Thank you for reporting that!

Just downloaded the app and started to use it right away. It's looking good to me so far 😊 Thank you

awesome app!!!
It deserves much more upvotes than this!
Thank you @good-karma!

How bout noisy ? Need further information bout hacking issues. I trust all developer can solve it.

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It is education matter and everyone doing their part so that new users don't use their password and private keys carelessly

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Dear my friend. Point No. 2, i think that homework for us.

Finally a Steemit app!! Look forward to using this and trying this out since I'm always on the go.

Great stuff! Please keep developing the app! :)

As we're already here, let me ask you another question @good-karma. I found some code in my wallet and in other peoples wallet as well. Could you enlighten me what that means? I could guess, but it has a zero value, so... not sure.

{ "type": "comment_benefactor_reward", "benefactor": "esteemapp", "author": "dinoo", "permlink": "re-joseph-2017530t222122752z", "reward": "0.000000 VESTS" }

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This is beneficiary feature and related transactions which saying benefactor for that post/comment with its reward. Unfortunately steemit.com still doesn't show them properly with values and meaningful way.

This is really great.. the app has great interface.. I love it.. and thank you boss. Keep working on the app. We will make big better..

that's great.....now the app is in.....

thank you fo that good karma

I just downloaded the app and tried writing a post using it. So far so good but it's a little bit slow compared to the usual apps that I am using.

Didn't realise it was out for iOS. Going to give it a try and may send some feedback later on.

I really like having an app for Steemit so thanx for developing. Although sometimes the app freezes on my iPhone I keep using it!

Well i just install the app, thank you for pointing it

You do the best for me.thank you brother

Im using it. Its gonna juat auto update part of regular daily app schedule right?

Good to know. Thank you!

Is this the update we are waiting for?

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Not yet @richguy... In my last comment on your reply, I have mentioned if you would consider help with testing new version before its released ? Let me know or reach out via https://steemit.chat/channel/esteem

come to me brother

JANVANHOESS

Thanls @good-karma its work..

Thanks for your informations. Regard from Aceh Province, Indonesia.

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Wow "every time you use app you automatically receive some votes"
I need a new phone, one that doesn't crash when I unlock the screen.

Really receiving upvotes automatically just by posting with the app? how is that possible? who is making those upvotes?

Dude, some guy is abusing from the auto-votes of the app, copying and pasting same comment on random posts and getting a lot of auto-upvotes...

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Feel free to point me to username, abusers get themselves blacklisted and might receive downvote if they spam network. Thank you!

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So only ios have the reward build?

I installed in iphone6, worked for a while and now I cant scroll down...layout looks ok , but seems like more improvement on its way

Nice 👍 and useful post!hope you can keep wiring this kind of post

Excellent idea

That's awesome !

But @good-karma I helped to translate spanish content a long while ago, but I did it with another username and I never got the rewards.

What can we done in this case?

Also planning on desktop release?

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

I keep updating but it wont load past the opening screen. @good-karma do I have to be on the latest version of iOS?

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Hmm That's strange. No need to be latest version of iOS, app should work just fine iOS 8+ version. Could you check if you are using v1.4.5 version of eSteem, perhaps try reinstall?

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Yes I was on 1.4.5 but I just deleted it (and all its data). I am able to try this now. My worry now is that I wont get the notifications at all now. Nope its not loading still. But now I am signed out of Steem :( Plz help

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Could you please check Settings page if you have websocket address: wss://steemd.steemit.com ?

Login with Advanced mode and use your private posting key via QR scanning from steemit.com for quick login. And enabled back notifications from Settings... If app doesn't pass from main screen it might be some permission issue, as well...

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It asks to allow notifications and then just stays on the loading screen. I am going to try updating my iOS now

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I cant update right now, it wont verify. And now I have no eSteem :(

nice....

Thanks for the information.

Congratulations @good-karma!
Your post was mentioned in my hit parade in the following categories:

  • Upvotes - Ranked 8 with 695 upvotes
  • Pending payout - Ranked 4 with $ 1795,17

Is the IOS version going to be released soon? Thanks

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Yes, update for iOS is coming soon after android as usual with version 1.4.6.

APP OS is pretty sweet so far.

I am very happy after I using a esteem apps. thaks very much @good-karma. and I will recomended all of my friend to use esteem apps.

I'll try and help

Testing eSteem right now! ... I am on android 6.0 it works ok, a litte slow but ok... I like the interface and some feauturea :)

iOS got the app to use steemit finally !

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@good-karma upvote 100% i need money thanks
hehehe
good job @good-karma

eSteem app is out of sync with Steemit website, info in the profile regarding 'wallet' is always wrong.

Interesting, did not realise that even I use the app all the time - however I usually post via laptop but do comments a lot

hello... @good-karma.

I want to ask, how to upload videos via apps esteem. I have trouble uploading videos using an esteem app. Please clarify.

Now I have to work twice for one post because it can not upload video from my hp to steemit using esteem application

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Hi @ijoel,
Video upload is not support by eSteem or Steemit at this point. Please upload your video to youtube or other service and use link of video in your post.

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cannot upload of video via esteem apos

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so.. cannot upload video via esteem apps.

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why I cannot to reply a comment via esteem

The app is great! I would suggest enabling Touch ID, more robust sorting capabilities and the ability to save your spot when exiting the app.

#esteem-feedback Hey there @good-karma. I've been using the app pretty extensively the past couple of days, there are quite a few bugs and usability issues.

The first one I'll mention is that really long posts with lots of text content (think @jerrybanfield) seem to lock up the app pretty badly. The (+) menu in the right lower corner begins to act really buggy and if I manage to get the app to go into reply/comment mode, typing my text inside the text area is excruciatingly slow.

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Would you mind sharing what device and OS you are on? I will test his posts on device to see what can be improved. Thank you!