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Fact after fact about something won't always win people over to reality. Many of us are only moved by appeals to emotion to pull, tug, move and push us into action. The truth and reality of the issue doesn't matter as much as how we feel about it, or how it makes us feel.

My latest post on "Know Thyself" mentioned as much regarding the importance in understanding what motivates, drives and influences our actions:

"Knowledge of the functionality, behavior, motivations, drive and influence of the mind, psyche and consciousness empowers one in life."
- @krnel

There is also the backfire effect I have previously covered, whereby people reject new information, no matter how much there is, and dig their heels in deeper, because they want what they believe to be true. Truth in reality, doesn't matter to them really as much as what they want, desire or wish to be true.

I will talk about another aspect of how we act, what we choose to do, making decisions, and how that relates to our emotions and how we feel.

Antonio Damasio discovered that people who had damage to the emotional parts of the brain, had the common issue of having great difficulty making decisions. Emotions are important to decide and choose one thing over another. We value, weigh and judge things based on how we feel much of the time.

Logic, unfortunately, is not a high level concern for a basic human who doesn't know themselves and these cognitive biases and deficits. Truth matters less than having our emotional desires, wants and wishes satiated through following how we feel about things. A decision is not based on wanting truth, right, good or morality to prevail as an outcome, but on wanting to do something personally based on how they feel.

Some people don't want to be convinced with reason, because they can't be. The negotiation with reality must take place for them to change their worldview or selfview.

If you get people to admit their problems, their pain, their suffering, and their vulnerability, then they are emotionally open, and you can build on that vision of their problem to propose a solution that fits with what they want and how they feel about something. It might not be the best solution, because they don't care about what is best, optimal or more right or less wrong, they just want what they want, the full honest hard truth be damned, they want to feel good about themselves and get what they want.

About the above Antonia Damasio article, someone made a comment about it on FB:

"Research suggests that logical arguments and facts are not what drives change. What really matters is how we make others feel."
- Someone

Then I said:

"What do you mean by: 'What really matters is how we make others feel'?"

They responded:

"I think this means we need to make our best efforts to appeal more to the heart than the head. So what we say to them matters less than how they feel about us, and whether they regard us as worthy of their trust. It points to the importance of caring and connecting with those we talk with, and listening closely to learn how we can best serve their interests and emotional needs."

Rather than serve truth, reality, existence, no... let's serve our deluded ego's and false perceptions that have us attached to lower consciousness interests and the emotional attachment towards those things in our lives we don't want to let go of. No... that doesn;t cut it for me.

This is what I have to say about the "feel-good" self-focus they try to validate as the best way to speak watered down "truth" to people.


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It's not about how YOU make them feel, that's just one way to manipulate them to change. What determines whether they change to accept something or reject it, is based on how THEY feel about the change itself, not how YOU make them feel.

The article is not really saying "what really matters is how we make others feel." That's just one way of manipulating them into a love-bomb "feel-good" emotional state to accept something from you that you want them to accept by relating you as the "feel-good" producer, to what you want them to accept. They will trust you because you make them feel-good, and then more likely trust and accept the message you deliver.

This is how many beliefs are propagated into consciousness, especially religious and New Age gurus and the like who peddle fantasies. If the messenger can make you feel good about a message, then you are likely to accept the message.

But I digress, as this is not what the article was really talking about: "You don’t tell your opponent what to think or what’s best. You help them discover for themselves what feels right and best and most advantageous to them. Their ultimate decision is based on self-interest. That’s emotional. I want this. This is good for me and my side."

But it does imply what you say, as ONE way to get people to accept something is by targeting their emotional/feeling/desire/wants saliency/value/importance/weighing capacity, or changing it.

The punchline is that logic and reasoning of facts in reality doesn't often work, because people are more concerned about their self-interested self-concerned self-centered gains and advantage that they will get or lose. How they feel about something is the point, not really how you make them feel.

The feeling of a topic, what "feels right" (whether it is right or not), what "feels good" (whether it is good or not), is related to the saliency of the information as it related to them personally. The saliency of information is how you feel about it, what you desire from it, if your desires align with the information, if you weigh the information as important to you personally, if you value the information. Saliency is related to feeling how valuable, important and weighted something is for you. And yes, if you can affect/alter someones feelings about something, then you can affect/alter whether they accept it or not.

Therefore, facts in reality, a truth, doesn't matter for many compared to how they feel about a something, whether it is true or a lie, they will be more likely to accept it or reject it based on the saliency of the information to them, how they feel, the value they place in it, the important and weight it has for them in their lives.

This demonstrates the subjective attachment to self and how we want to feel-good about ourselves, vs. objective detachment to recognize the truth in reality that may not feel-good. People are focused on feel-good deceptions that will sustain and maintain their current condition, their current selfview or worldview, or what will improve their current condition, selfview or worldview, as judged/weighed from a feel-good self-interested self-concerned advantageous winning perspective of the saliency/importance/value of something as it relates to them.

There are many manipulators who know how to be charismatic, smother talk and make you feel-good with word-magic and the science of imagery to invoke feel-good states in you related to them and their message they want you to accept. Once accepted, your behavior can change in accordance with the newly accepted information. This is how politics and sophistry work.

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People need to focus on understanding truth, right, good and morality, and see the value/importance/weight and salient significance that those higher guiding principles will bring them and others in life. Then you don't need to make people "feel-good" about something for them to accept it, all you need to do is speak the truth.

Focusing on getting them to trust you by making them feel-good about you is a low consciousness approach of letting them remain in this modality of consciousness whereby they always focus on their feel-good attachments, self-interest, self-concern and self-consideration. Then you have to do this manipulation game to play on their emotional attachment to you every time you want them to change. That is not dealing with the root causal factor of their low consciousness modality of focusing on themselves instead of truth, right, good and morality.

The root causal factor is their rejection of facts, reality, truth, right, good and morality in the first place, because they focus on themselves and feeling-good. The solution at the root causal level is to get them to actually care for truth, right, good and morality more, so that they can change themselves, rather than you making them feel-good and then changing them for each issue.


TL;DR?

Caring about truth, right, good and morality is to have salience, value, importance and weight put on those higher guiding principles, rather than the lower self-interest, self-concern and self-consideration of personal advantage and feeling-good about a worldview, selfview or sensory stimulus.

The proper way to make decisions is based on a properly functioning consciousness and brain that provides both reasoning and rationality along with emotion and intuition to judge and value information objectively with respect to reality.


One final thing to note, is with respect to the "willusionists" who believe there is no free will. If there were no free will, then people would be able to make decisions regardless of emotions. Free will is an automatic factor of a properly functioning consciousness that emerges from a healthy functioning brain.

Consciousness is free will. Thought and emotion are part of consciousness. When something is damaged in the brain and in consciousness it affects our abilities. Like damage to process emotions affects our ability to make choices, free will. Damage to emotional areas of the brain prevent us from exercising our free will properly: we can't make decisions/choices. There is more proof of free will in reality, demonstrable in life, but this is on example to show from reality.


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2016-12-01, 7:26am

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This reminds me of a study that got quoted to me three separate times during my recent excursion in college. In psychology, logic and anthropology classes I was told that this study found that children are more affected by their peers and teachers than by their parents, as far as their opinions and beliefs were concerned.

So, after 12 to 16 years of State schooling, during which students are removed from the influence of their parents and lectured for hours a day by a person of ambiguous but undeniable authority, where the only escape is to sneak conversations with age segregated children, we find that parents have less influence?

Yes, State school has taught us to believe authority, advertizing has taught us to follow our desires instead of logic, wag-the-dog news reporting has taught us to be constantly distracted, twisted headline science reporting has left us unable to believe anything that doesn't have official government approval .... yes, State, we get it, your methods have worked. We don't need a study to tell us that. Oh, wait, I guess we do need a study to tell us what to think.

LOL, well put, thanks for the feedback :)

Very interesting article. It is quite tricky since in my job as a marketer we go for the shortcuts because if we don't, we lose sales. Our goal of course is not to get people to an understanding of "the good life" for example but to message in a way the audience will believe that "if I do X, I will FEEL good."

Anybody who is in the "influence" business know that quite well and they use the tactics mentioned above in order to get what they want. A simple example is the use of someone's name...since it's the most important word to anyone, you make them feel important.

On another note: Even thou I can track response rates and have constants on a website or an ad (for example a conversion rate of 1.5%) I truly believe that there is free will:

Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom. Viktor E. Frankl

But like you said, that only happens when people have well functioning brain and the ability to tame our reactive behaviors.

Damn, only halfway through reading the post but already going to upvote, really good information and thanks for sharing and popping in links when necessary.

Thanks. The sad thing is, when I make important higher quality posts, they make less payout and reach less people, than lower quality posts I make. Put less effort, for less important info, and make more money LOL...

I have had that thought before too. I get all in my head if I should break content up into smaller easy to digest pieces or is not that enough content for an individual post, or is it too much for any person to read in one sitting. Then I realize I am in my head and to Keep Calm and Post Comics. I seen @bullionstackers do an intro/pilot post to an idea https://steemit.com/culinary/@bullionstackers/introductory-the-culinary-class-original-by-bullionstackers and it almost felt like a table of contents or preview of things to come. Sucks it was canceled, but I guess good he didn't invest too much in the posts either.

Even though I did not have time to finish it when I started, I have already now finished your post and I see the amount of upvotes and value and I think all is right with the world lol, and I appreciate and I see others do too, the amount of work that went into your post.

The reward of credibility gained is, perhaps, the un-quantified reward. As Jim Rohn used to say, it is not what we are getting paid, but what we are becoming that is important.

It is the long term and real reward you speak of. It's why I believe the best Steemit users stay away from using bots or overusing metric tools on Steemit and just focus on their posts and upvote everything by hand, because if they upvoted it.

Yes, I have always done curating by hand, personal judgment. Not "follow someone's trails" blind upvoting where you don't even read or judge content yourself, or just repeat user auto upvote BS.

The community needs to up its game, I even talked about each our personal responsibility to curate when I joined Steemit...

Steemit Succeeds if We Make it Succeed - Analysis to Help Yourself and Steemit Grow in Quality

Not enough people care about Steemit or the world, and only care about money.... like steemsports betting... no content creation going on... not why I came to Steemit for... rewarding content creators... steemsports creates no content. Not in line with original purpose as I see it.

Two excellent posts I had not seen before, quality is quite king in the end I believe, and I am hoping quality remains on Steemit.

I will offer another opinion on Steemsports or the Guess How Many or Guess Whatever contests. I think they are neat and have purpose as this technology allows for posts like those to exist here where on other blogging platforms it just isn't possible to exist in the way people are doing betting and such here. There is content there, it is not the same quality I always prefer, but having guessed a number in a post or two I just like that they exist is all.

Sports is it's own special thing I think, and I just hope all the individual users who are having fun betting are also on the site reading posts, enjoying music, art, videos, all the things on Steemit.

Yes, that's why I did work, on my site and facebook, for 3 years, with no monetary gain. Truth is the supreme value in life.

Synchronicity! I also wrote a post about emotions today, though from a different angle; a complement so to say. Your article is thought provoking. Good job, I'll upvote and resteem it. If you want you can read my complement here: https://steemit.com/psychology/@technovedanta/is-intelligence-an-algorithm-part-6-emotional-intelligence

Yes, we must not compromise reason by using emotion to manipulate others. The challenge is competing with those that would make someone feel good in order to get their way. It's a slow process, but we can hope that education and engagement with win out in the long run.

btw - I selected your piece of today's #philosophy-review. Keep up the great posts! https://steemit.com/philosophy/@aaanderson/the-philosophy-review-12-01-2016

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