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RE: Are women who dress provocatively responsible for unwanted attention, or should men learn to control themselves? EcoTrain Question Of The Week

in #ecotrain6 years ago

i hear you!
so to answer your final question
"Are men not mature enough to know the difference, is that not an insult to their intelligence to assume otherwise."

I would simply say, guys are guys.. generally speaking.. and it goes both ways.. I think my answer in the end was that in theory it would be nice if we were all allowed to express ourselves however we wanted.. but in practice we cant really expect men to change.. because even if 90% of men did change, that 10% would still be enough to rock the boat. So getting 100% of men to overcome their repressed carnal desires isn't something im going to hold my breath for!

As for the media, and how they objectify women.. ugh.. as you say.. it is part of this patriarchy.. and we can only wait it out to see that stuff change.. where i live none of that touches this place.. thankfully..

and finally!.. i think Men are softening these days.. it takes time.. generations even.. but men have come a LONG way in the last 30 years.. in so many ways.. but.. for sure there is still a long ways to go!

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thank you @eco-alex, it is good to get input from a male perspective, for me there is a huge level of disrespect being shown towards women when they are treated in that way, it really ties in with this dominant patriarchal rule where behaviour like that is accepted between men and even encouraged. I know that we are not talking about all men, I am very lucky to know men who are always respectful towards women, I do think there needs to be more conversations about this especially in mainstream society, we had a case recently here in Ireland that really brought it to the fore front, so things are changing slowly, but they are changing x

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