Utopian: The Project Liked By Steem Whales and Why You Should Join it Too

in dtube •  last month


Utopian.io is the only platform rewarding Open Source Contributors, with Steem. https://utopian.io

Utopian has received the attention of many relevant Steemians and Whales. Has been recently listed in the Steem.Center Ecosystem and on Steemtools.com by whale @transisto

Watch the video to know how does Utopian work and how you can be rewarded too for contributing to Open Source projects.


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11 years Senior Software Architect - Javascript Full Stack Developer, focused on ES6, React.js, Redux, TypeScript, Node.js, and DevOps.

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Nice video :) Maybe you can appeal for people to delegate SP to the Utopian account so that it can be used to reward contributors. Might be a easier sell than donations. A delegation tool on utopian would make it easier. The utopian account could vote on contributor reports programatically so that it uses its max voting power per day. Similar to a bot but only for contributors posts.

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@codewithcheese this is already in my todos :))) I am still thinking if there is a better way to maximise earnings of delegating accounts. Maybe Utopian could run a newsletter with contents about Open Source initiatives and share also the author rewards from the newsletter with the delegators, based on how much they are delegating. What do you think?

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What would be the advantage compared to just upvoting the reports directly? If the point is to fund development why give the reward back to those who gave it?

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@transisto the thing is, I believe many people here will only delegate their power if they have some kind of ROI. Bigger the ROI bigger the possibility they will delegate. By delegating you are just giving Utopian trust to upvote the best contributions and this is already an advantage. The advantage is for you since you don't have to go through every contribution (hopefully one day there will be thousands) and the advantage is for the contributors because the more power delegated to Utopian the bigger the rewards for them when sharing good contributions, constantly.

The thing is, I think this is not yet enough to convince Steemians to delegate their power. There are already services like minnowbooster that will give you more or less the same ROI you would have if you were upvoting by yourself. Utopian must be more appealing and provide bigger ROIs.

The reason for this is that I want Utopian to have the biggest power is possible in order to give contributors the biggest rewards possible. Some developers, for example, will just ignore the fact that you can be rewarded of a few bucks, simply because they earn much more with their regular work and won't spend their time on Open Source projects as much as it is already happening now. This I want to change and for this to change I must find ways to grow the Utopian upvote power.

Do you think Steemians (with relevant upvote power) will delegate their power or upvote (directly and constantly) contributions on Utopian without having any kind of reward back? What's your opinion about this?

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Interesting idea, ill have a think about it.

Are you italian? Good Job!

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Si ciao @mariobros. Italianissimo! :D

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beh avevo notato un certo accento familiare 😁. Bel progetto davvero!

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Eheh si l'accento italiano è inconfondibile @mariobros. Grazie mille!! Utopian è agli inizi ed è ancora in fase embrionale. Presto aggiungerò molte funzioni interessanti.

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ok diego ho visto chi sei... continua così e porta la bandiera alta. anche noi nel nostro gruppo steemit @steempostitalia, cerchiamo di alfabetizzare gli italiani in questo mondo social e di crtpto. Un abbraccio

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Comunque @mariosbros, @steempostitalia è esattamente il tipo di contributo che può essere inserito su Utopian. Essendo Steem Open Source potresti scrivere un post attraverso Utopian, parlare della community, come l'avete creata e cosa state facendo per ampliarla. Sto facendo degli investimenti su Utopian che garantiscono reward molto alti. Fammi sapere se sei interessato e possiamo approfondire.

Sadly @dtube is a 1st world luxury. Without transcoding it makes it near impossible to enjoy for the majority.

@steemir is an option so we can support via existing platforms.

Anyway I'll watch the video when my connection is better.

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Thanks @greatestjourney. Looking forward for your feedback!

great work
great use case of Busy open-source codebase job with Utopian.io :)

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Thanks @ekitcho. The new template of busy.org was an amazing discovery and perfect base for Utopian. Utopian is changing and will change a lot implementing Open Source specific features :)

nice post brother. I like you accent. kenyan people fancy italian accents. I honestly think Utopian is a piece of great work. thats a really nice idea you came up with

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Thank you!! :D

Good post, however few questions. I am trying to make Steemit popular at my place by taking some initiatives. Would that qualify to be a contributor report ?

Also when I tried to log in it asks : Do you want to authorize the Steem account @utopian.app to use your posting role?

However when I say Yes, it asks me the owner, active key or master password. Why is so ? If it is going to just use the Posting role, then why the owner, active key or master password is required ? And what are the implication of providing these ? Potentially someone can transfer using these keys.

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Hello @sanjeevm.

  1. Sure, running initiatives to make Steemit more popular is exactly the kind of contributions you can post on Utopian. You will post on Utopian for example once one of your initiatives is done and write about how you made this initiative, how many people joined, where it was taken, the results, etc.

  2. Utopian uses Steemconnect, that's mantained by Steemit. Utopian never gets your credentials nor it stores them anywhere. It is totally safe. You can use the transfer capabilities to support other contributors on Utopian, but Utopian will never be able to do that without your authorisation.

Let me know you need any help!

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When we provide the active key to authorize, will it not get stored in Utopian ? Or its just to authorize once, and then I can change the key ?

I am worried not to share the active key, because anyone can transfer using that key, if it gets exposed.

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@sanjeevm absolutely no. Utopian does not store your key. Utopian cannot even see your key. When you login you are using steemconnect. Steemconnect acts as authentication service and just tells Utopian if the login was successful or not. All the actions are then broadcasted through Steemconnect. Utopian knows nothing about your credentials but only who you are on Steemit. In addition Utopian and Steemconnect both use https, the data is encrypted and cannot be read from outside.

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I will have to read a bit about steemconnect then. For a quick clarification, if I change the key, after I give permission to utopian, then will it still work ?

And why can't you take only the posting key ?

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Hey @sanjeevm read this comment from the mantainer of SteemConnect V2 and CEO of Busy.org. Everything is well explained there: https://steemit.com/dtube/@elear/18wkyxfc#@ekitcho/re-leprechaun-re-elear-2017108t1638208z-20171008t195118203z

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It sounds to me you will be sent to steemconnect for login and steemconnect will use your keys on behalf of utopian.io. Steemfiles.com, and busy.org do this also but only ask for your private posting key. Neither of these sites see your posting key but the software on busy.org can get steemconnect to vote on your behalf, and to post. That is how busy.org works. Steemconnect should give you a dialog of permissions. If you don't trust steemconnect with your active key, don't give it. If you do not trust utopia.app with your money don't give it permission.

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@leprechaun funny thing is Utopian is based on the new version of Busy.org. SteemConnect V2 is the next release of SteemConnect that is also supported by Steemit. https://v2.steemconnect.com. Soon Busy.org will also be implementing the V2 version. Utopian is actually using a better version of SteemConnect than Busy.org does at the moment. I gave you more info on the comment below. Thank you

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I don't call it "better". If this is where things are going, I might as well give users the option of logging in to steemfiles.com directly with thier posting key when they retire the version Steemfiles uses.

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SteemConnect 2 will allow some specific apps to take only Posting keys. For example Steemit.chat will be able to allow login with Steem posting key using Steemconnect 2, the team is working on it. It's possible to do that because Steemit.chat doesn't need to post or upvote any content. (No delegation needed = No active key required)

But for any website like Steemit, Busy, Chainbb, and Utopian, it's not about sign-in, the active key is required to delegate your posting authority to the app account. You can revoke anytime this authority, using the steemconnect dashboard.

That's why, there is no key storage in SC2, everything happens in the browser in a secure way. It only requires your active key once in the browser, to delegate your posting authority to the app.

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@ekitcho I see many doubts and many Steemians are simply not using external apps because they don't want to give out their credentials or they don't fully understand how it works. I think there must be a clear explanation about this. I'll probably write a dedicated post but my readers are limited. Something should also come from your side or Steem itself to make the process very clear for new comers and early adopters.

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@jerrybanfield this is also material for you. A post about this would be extremely helpful

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That's great. I see no reason not to upgarde to v2 when users can use the posting key to login.

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As far as I understand the SSL, we can do the same thing through any https client, it need not be a browser only. The point to catch is that, you don't save it in SC2, so that should be all good.

I will have a look at the API in more details soon.

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@leprechaun the problem is, we must have a trusted third party service for managing the auth process, so to avoid dangerous external apps to be allowed on requesting the user credentials. Who's better than Steem itself? The first version of SteemConnect is a Busy.org product. SteemConnect V2 is managed also by Steem itself.

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I am a programmer and know steemjs and steem/python. Most people already trust Steemit js and backend code to not to save the keys on the server in an irresponsible way. I guess it does not even go to the server. It does not need to. If I can point to @ned saying they manage SC2 I think I can put users at ease. And yes users don't typically understand the keys never go to the servers of Steemfiles.com.

Is it just me, but I can't watch any videos that were posted over a week ago? what could be the issue?

Nice.
I follow you, you follow me and upvote for me I upvoted for you and I am always with you and will be there

I just tried to login to your site. Steemconnect asks for at least my active key! That's horrible. When you only ask posting permission. I wonder whether the app is badly configured at steemconnect.

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Thanks for your feedback @leprechaun. I think there are a lot of misconceptions around SteemConnect.

  1. Utopian does not hold or even see your credentials, ever.

  2. There is no way (at the moment at least) to change this setting in SteemConnect V2

  3. Even if it was possible to only ask for the posting key, Utopian would still require at least your active key since it will offer Power Delegation. Through delegating power to Utopian, contributors will access higher rewards.

  4. SteemConnect V2 is managed by Steemit itself and acts as an auth service. That means Utopian only knows if you are logged in or not and who you are. Every action is broadcasted through SteemConnect V2. Utopian will never be able to initiate a transfer without your authorization via SteemConnect V2.

  5. SteemConnect V2 is still in its early stages. Maybe we will see some more options in the future. At the moment the only way and the safest is to connect via SteemConnect V2. Without this, no external apps would be possible and the Steem ecosystem will just not grow.

I hope I gave you enough info. Let me know if you need more clarifications.

Thank you

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You don't have to take the word of @elear . This is explained here https://v2.steemconnect.com . It's a matter of trusting SteemConnect, really. I never saw a post by @ned saying Steemit Inc. bought SteemConnect.

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@leprechaun that's a pity and in fact I have just asked to @ekitcho to make the process very clear, write posts about it and maybe also @ned could say a word. You can also check by yourself already. SteemConnect V2 is under the Steemit official Github account (https://github.com/steemit/steemconnect) = managed by Steem.

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Does that make @sanjeevm comdortable with using SteemConnect? I think using SteemConnect is defintely better than people pasting keys everywhere.

Nice video, good to see other platforms for blogging and networking.

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sounds cool / gl

This great. Love your project. Congrats. @elear

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