Avoid the Youtube drama... its filled with trolls who truly have nothing better to do then to try and ruin someone's day. Indulging them just fuels them to continue. Its just a waste of time and energy that could be spent in much better ways.
@geofftk I feel like the trolling has gotten a little better since they forced people to use their real names/google+ accounts. Either way, the fact that people have 1000+ comment threads and their upvotes aren't making them any ///money/// or anything off their verbal diarrhea just seems silly once you're on steemit. haha
Asking me to upvote you is a sure fire way to guarantee I will NOT upvote you. Contribute something meaningful, be part of the community... that's the best way to get upvotes. Not begging.
I feel like using youtube can still be a great way to keep showing people Steemit that have not seen it before and not try and close of a door that may lead to more users joining us here. Start offering exclusive content maybe here over on Steemit making people want to jump over to see things before it comes onto Youtube or see things that are not there.
@davidpakman I've been wondering the same thing, albeit with Instagram rather than YouTube. While Instagram was a great platform for me to build a following and release content for about a year, the recent changes to the algorithm and the overall pettiness of people on there (it seriously feels like high school but worse), coupled with Facebook's increasing crackdowns on Instagram business that doesn't directly benefit them, makes Steemit look SO MUCH MORE APPEALING. Really the issue here is with the overall new-ness of the platform. It still has quite a significant learning curve compared to the major-league social platforms, and not a lot of people on it (broadly speaking).
Also forgive the unrequested advice, but when posting DTube videos I usually like to go back in and edit the post on Steemit to include a YouTube link as well (like I did in this blog post for a song I released a while back.) DTube is a young service and still often drops out/takes ages to buffer, so I find that people like to have a YouTube backup link in case the DTube stream is struggling.
I like your channel a lot. I do think that political discussions will attract some negative attention. I cringe on any political discussion with SteemIt because I'd rather we try to unite around the cause of making a platform open to different ideas and expression and even though we all should have the maturity to act this way with politics, most do not right now.
Either way, I'm fine with upvoting content I disagree with, but many won't. As for YouTube, the whole platform is devolving into a platform for people with only some opinions. I don't see a good future for it, if it continues down the trend.
Please don't, please stay the course. I started watching you because you stay calm, present clear concise facts and opinions w/o the drama. There are so few places to go w/o the crazy hyper frenzy drama, so please stay out of their wacko world. :)
I know people say that YouTube drama is "filled with trolls," but I feel like it's really important to have cogent progressive voices to balance out the usual alt-right/conservative tildrum that, in my mind, dominates the very kinds of discourses where David's voice would be most useful.
I don't think Pakman needs to chase drama, per se, but certainly participating in debates hosted by other popular youtube personalities would be a plus. Another way to go about doing it is to respond to the videos which bill themselves as "response videos" or critiques which are often nothing more than largely illogical name-calling diatribes. Their bread and butter is misrepresentation and logical fallacy - David would be almost uniquely suited to refuting them!
You know, one of the biggest dislikes of your show is how PC and rigid it is, so when I say this you should know that I'm if anything biased against you here:
Don't even give these punks the time of day. They are not serious people, and the only attention you'll get is from a horde of braying sheeple that won't listen to a word you say.
I used to find Sargon respectable, and I think I will again (he fell down a rightwing echo chamber IMHO), Andy is not the kind of person I'd bother with but I'd politely decline, and Richard? HAH. No. His mere presence dispels any interest I'd have. The only reason to bring that gorilla into the ring is because you're running a circus.
You made the right call. If I were you I might troll them a bit, but not much.
And you said 'the 'S' word' instead of 'shit', for example... although I was shocked in this video when you called a debate 'an abortion'. Not that I'm offended, but that's way out of line of the previous 'won't say the word 'shit''.
But uh... you might want to reconsider using that word. I'm sure it's as offensive as cursing to people who care about that.
I’m completely over the YouTube drama, I have found over the past few months I dislike going there, and since I’ve dived headlong into Steemit, I haven’t watched anything on YouTube the site at all.
I’d definitely try to stay away from the drama, and when it comes up, just plug Steemit as an alternative, eventually people will jump ship and learn to be independent of Alphabet/google.
Avoid the Youtube drama... its filled with trolls who truly have nothing better to do then to try and ruin someone's day. Indulging them just fuels them to continue. Its just a waste of time and energy that could be spent in much better ways.
@geofftk I feel like the trolling has gotten a little better since they forced people to use their real names/google+ accounts. Either way, the fact that people have 1000+ comment threads and their upvotes aren't making them any ///money/// or anything off their verbal diarrhea just seems silly once you're on steemit. haha
Upvote me @geofftk please sir
Please refer to this article:
https://steemit.com/steem/@gmuxx/how-to-steem
Asking me to upvote you is a sure fire way to guarantee I will NOT upvote you. Contribute something meaningful, be part of the community... that's the best way to get upvotes. Not begging.
D.tube works like a charm!
Hmm.... Maybe both?
haha why not, right?
I feel like using youtube can still be a great way to keep showing people Steemit that have not seen it before and not try and close of a door that may lead to more users joining us here. Start offering exclusive content maybe here over on Steemit making people want to jump over to see things before it comes onto Youtube or see things that are not there.
@davidpakman I've been wondering the same thing, albeit with Instagram rather than YouTube. While Instagram was a great platform for me to build a following and release content for about a year, the recent changes to the algorithm and the overall pettiness of people on there (it seriously feels like high school but worse), coupled with Facebook's increasing crackdowns on Instagram business that doesn't directly benefit them, makes Steemit look SO MUCH MORE APPEALING. Really the issue here is with the overall new-ness of the platform. It still has quite a significant learning curve compared to the major-league social platforms, and not a lot of people on it (broadly speaking).
Also forgive the unrequested advice, but when posting DTube videos I usually like to go back in and edit the post on Steemit to include a YouTube link as well (like I did in this blog post for a song I released a while back.) DTube is a young service and still often drops out/takes ages to buffer, so I find that people like to have a YouTube backup link in case the DTube stream is struggling.
I like your channel a lot. I do think that political discussions will attract some negative attention. I cringe on any political discussion with SteemIt because I'd rather we try to unite around the cause of making a platform open to different ideas and expression and even though we all should have the maturity to act this way with politics, most do not right now.
Either way, I'm fine with upvoting content I disagree with, but many won't. As for YouTube, the whole platform is devolving into a platform for people with only some opinions. I don't see a good future for it, if it continues down the trend.
Have you used LBRY? It's a YouTube competitor.
Please don't, please stay the course. I started watching you because you stay calm, present clear concise facts and opinions w/o the drama. There are so few places to go w/o the crazy hyper frenzy drama, so please stay out of their wacko world. :)
fair point!
I know people say that YouTube drama is "filled with trolls," but I feel like it's really important to have cogent progressive voices to balance out the usual alt-right/conservative tildrum that, in my mind, dominates the very kinds of discourses where David's voice would be most useful.
I don't think Pakman needs to chase drama, per se, but certainly participating in debates hosted by other popular youtube personalities would be a plus. Another way to go about doing it is to respond to the videos which bill themselves as "response videos" or critiques which are often nothing more than largely illogical name-calling diatribes. Their bread and butter is misrepresentation and logical fallacy - David would be almost uniquely suited to refuting them!
IMO... GO GET 'EM, DAVID!
yes....yes indeed
Hilarious.
You know, one of the biggest dislikes of your show is how PC and rigid it is, so when I say this you should know that I'm if anything biased against you here:
Don't even give these punks the time of day. They are not serious people, and the only attention you'll get is from a horde of braying sheeple that won't listen to a word you say.
I used to find Sargon respectable, and I think I will again (he fell down a rightwing echo chamber IMHO), Andy is not the kind of person I'd bother with but I'd politely decline, and Richard? HAH. No. His mere presence dispels any interest I'd have. The only reason to bring that gorilla into the ring is because you're running a circus.
You made the right call. If I were you I might troll them a bit, but not much.
our show is PC and rigid? that's a big dislike? according to who?
That was a typo. I meant to say for my tastes.
And you said 'the 'S' word' instead of 'shit', for example... although I was shocked in this video when you called a debate 'an abortion'. Not that I'm offended, but that's way out of line of the previous 'won't say the word 'shit''.
But uh... you might want to reconsider using that word. I'm sure it's as offensive as cursing to people who care about that.
But yeah your production's like daytime TV; and the current zeitgeist is all straight talk all the time... being the era of Trump and all.
Don't get me wrong, everyone on the show seems great, and I'm sure we'd get along, but it's not my favourite media stylistically.
Also do you do Q&A's? I started watching you like only a month ago.
If Steemit grows bigger there'll be drama on it too.
Haha yeah I can't wait!
I’m completely over the YouTube drama, I have found over the past few months I dislike going there, and since I’ve dived headlong into Steemit, I haven’t watched anything on YouTube the site at all.
I’d definitely try to stay away from the drama, and when it comes up, just plug Steemit as an alternative, eventually people will jump ship and learn to be independent of Alphabet/google.
This is exactly the kind of organic trend indicator that will turn the tide away from the rotting centralized platforms.
I couldn’t agree more.