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RE: DLive is joining the Lino blockchain, moving away from Steem

in #dlive6 years ago

At least you can spare me a few minutes to get a few answers, specially from @meno. Since it was a reply to his comment.
But nope, let's get upset and act like mad so some big guy may see how furios we are and give us a 30 cent upvote. C'mon guys.

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You asked what's wrong with it. Well it's manipulative and exploiting people. When you have plans to use them and then run to another place because of simple greed. They can do what they want but people will be upset about it.

And why are you upset about me? Am I one of dLive team? Did I exploit you?

Am I supporting this action, or looking for reasons to prevent it happen again. Which line actually made you flag that comment.

I just recently flagged by a mob, and I just though fuck it, I'm taking my worthless 500 SP and get out of this shit-hole. If you think few years later. If I had 50k SP and I kinda rely on income from steem. That mob was going to take my dinner from my table maybe a whole week of food was gone.

Is this how you add value to this community? Just because you had a bigger stick than me, do you have to swing it, mr young philosopher? Is this how you communicate in your real life, is this how you stay in peace in your neighbourhood?

"they didn't steal anything, they didn't hurt anyone" here you are wrong. They both stole people's valuable time and then let Steem users creator their new logo. They hurt many people. Just look at all the upset comments on this post.

I might be, but they paid steem to their content creators and paid steem to that designer for the work done. I see many upset people around but don't see the reason rather than a bandwagon effect.

There are people trying to censor an announcement post, what is the goal here, what's going to happen when this post downs to 0 or his reputation goes minus, from now on?

And I'm still getting flags here without any reason :). So there is no need to continue to this debate.

Thanks for your time.

Not sure if you have understood this place. It's based on Stake. People can like or disagree with you. Conversations will be heated.

That's where I agree with you, I didn't understand this place at all.

People doesn't use their power to fight with spam or plagiarism or anything else, they just ignore those and not flag them.

Yet in a conversation where they can express their ideas by words, they choose to use that unused power.

Freedom :peace:

That is being flagged also. If someone strongly disagree with you they may downvote it. If majority doesn't like your ideas then you are probably wrong. Since the human heart usually is right. Then you have to learn to express yourself in a way that wins over people.

Upvote/downvote, Yin/yang. I strongly agree in the value of meeting people halfway. A flag should be seen as a message and cause us to reflect on our actions. I don't agree that the majority is usually right (at least when it comes to mental things), but you are correct that people are more accurate with the wise intuition of the heart.

For some reason, people think learning how to express yourself in a way that doesn't offend people is too soft or fake, but I find "express yourself in a way that wins people over" is a good method to reach people on a deeper level.

I think it's more than just greed playing a part in all this, does success go hand in hand with greed? In my opinion, absolutely. I believe 99% of the entire crypto-market is driven by greed. DLive is up to something, and if they have to ruffle a few feathers to get the job done then so be it. I'm sure when twitch decided to sell out to Amazon for nearly a billion dollars it ruffled a few feathers.

You are crazy if you think 99% of the crypto market is driven by greed. Shows you have no clue about the human heart and what people really want. Freedom. It's a degrading view of humans thinking they only care about money and not love and relationships. This movement is mainly about humans creating a more fair world. 99% of humans are extremely loving and doesn't go for starting a business to maximise profits. That is a minority.

Best comment here! Thx for that.

Crazy? Maybe a bit, sure. You claim I have no clue about the human heart and what people really want? Well now it just sounds like you're claiming that I'm some kind of alien and not human at all. If you really wanna get technical than I could say that "I do know the human heart, because all it really does is pump blood", but to entertain your perspective, sure, people want freedom. Do I have a degrading view of humanity, maybe, we do live in strange times. I've been to jail. I've seen and heard some shit. The kind of shit that makes you squirm and make a disgusted face. But don't get me wrong, I'm all for love and freedom but when it comes to money, greed is always a factor. ALWAYS. And don't assume you know people better than they know themselves, that you know what people want, because if I told you what I really wanted in this world, it wouldn't align with what you think you know.

You were right.. check this thread today. His assumption failed!

The vast majority of human beings are driven by greed. I can't put a percentage on it but economy goes down crime goes up, there's no disputing people are greedy or at the very least have a survival instinct which at some point kicks in and makes them greedy. saying majority of crypto community is greedy IMHO isn't a slam on the crypto community, its a slame on human beings as a whole and it's true.

I honestly think in many ways the crypto community is more virtuous than regular society. Look at all the tipping and free money people have given out to help grow crypto, look at how generous people who made money in crypto have been to indivuduals and companies.Many crypto people are very virtuous and generous but as a whole people are greedy. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts abslutely

Power doesn't corrupt. But if that person with power divides the world and look at things differently then that is a corrupt person. But it has nothing to do with power. It has to do with the person.

Trust me, most people just want to get their bags filled at this point. Not a lot of people care. I am sure that after 3 extra months of spending time on here, you might slightly agree. After all, you're powering down and heading for the exit just like dlive did. Steem's payment system is anything but fair.

Is greed a good or bad thing?

Wow. Great question raised @joeyarnoldvn . And right on time.

I've read that older Dtube videos are discontinued if they're lacking enough rewards, after a few months. I've read some articles, some posts about it. So, I wrote about that since my older Dtube videos are not loading. So, Dlive didn't do that. But then a guy voted me down from a reputation of 55 to 51 this week just for bringing that up a few times here. He said that I should not say the same thing over and over again. I'm saying it because people say Dtube is better than Dlive and I can show people that my Dlive videos are still up while my Dtube videos are not. Thanks for commenting. Upvoted.

Good question. I dont know.

But when it comes from me, I joined Steem for earning money. But this money will also benefit the platform. Why? Because the stuff ill be buying from this money would be cameras, for the blog, donations and etc. Now tell me, is it greedy?

Good question and I love money and I love to help other people and I love free markets and greed is more of an emotion that may or may not be there during life like sadness and anger and laughter and everything. Upvoted.

Generally, it is good in the short-run and bad in long-run. If you are going to die next week, go ahead and be greedy.

I think the post was expressive enough. They left because they can, and because they didn't have much faith in this platform like you do. I thik it was purely a business move. They had so much support and so to lose and they left anyways.

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