Trump is about to put the Whuppin

in #discussion7 years ago



On the SnowFlakes that Voted Against Him
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Pretty much everyone that voted FOR him will benefit.
In the New Tax Bill
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  • mortgage interest would only be deductible on mortgage balances up to $500K for new home purchases, down from the current $1mn threshold.

the median home price in the US is around $224K. Make the RICH pay their fair share...right?

I like it.

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thank you for your answer. Clearly we have a lot to agree on here. Clearly the take away answer for the rest of the world is- hillary supporters could and should self organize better and in a reverse model of the organization the trump supporters have.
Beyond that i absolutely agree trump is worse. I'm not trying to play favorites or ie i am not in any way trolling one way or the other for anyone i'm just as a more neutral third party answering the question.
Which is why is there this goofball distortion in the polling and online support?
So lets get back to the two core reasons. The demographic pools by their nature are socially active and socially passive. The right wing nutjobs of the world are relentless and angry and do everything they can - and think through their actions strategically. The dems sit around admiring and cheering on their candidate, but they haven't got a sense of what right action is as supporters to support her. they aren't cued off the start at the word go. Its bullies versus geeks. The bullies know how to make an appearance and do shit and run an agenda. The geeks know how to sit and intellectualize and socialize about it all and thats what they do- which doesn't lead them to strategic right action.
Hillary is not competent as an organizer to manage to organize her team on this front. Which in my book stand alone invalidates her as somebody i can vote for as president. A person who would earn my vote would be the person who organizes their team to reflect a democratic system with as strong a power sharing level playing field as can be managed given the limitations of mass numbers and technology. In short, if i had a million followers i'd organize them into think tanks, and that would make trumps or hillaries supporter game look like caveman tech.
Why don't we see that? Because hillary isn't as much the peoples person as she might like to be. Shes a political hack. She doesn't have a degree in sociology or psychology or game theory or systems theory that would empower her to see the potential of her supporter base. As a political hack all shes sees is voters and soldiers. Not intellects and not intellectual forces to be harnassed.
Fascism is any system of government in which corporate power is given over and under such that the real power behind government is corporations. Mussolini famously stated that fascism should rightly be called corporatism. He was right. Hillary is an in line in caste elite caste luxocrat. Whatever her intentions for good may be, she is the product of determinism and her conditioning and she does not have operable free will outside of that conditioning.
Fascism is indeed the accident which pollutes everything here. I studied poli sci pretty deep and i'm not just using their terms for their propaganda, trolling, or rhetoric effect. They are precise and they are accurate.
Hillary can no more escape her fascist and oligarchic influences than she can escape being a democrat in the democrat elite caste party or escape being an elite. Like it or not who she is is a product of corporate fascist oligarchy, and thats what will come out of the system as operated by her and most to the point- thats the leadership style she displays as a candidate with supporters. Cultmind group think with fascisms standard public enemy.
Having said all that don't get me wrong- I hope she wins and I hope that this conversation aids her and those who want to help her.
But its only by facing the truth that solutions to the problems come. Would it not be crueler of me to say nothing and let the whole thing slide and give no chance to them at all thus of seeing their bad pattern and fixing it?
People often mistake my help for trolling or mean ness. Truly i'm only trying to be helpful. the truth may hurt but facing it empowers right action. nothing else will.

Suggest you get Ed Klein's new book, Read it. And ask yourself - if everything reported in that book is a fact, can I possibly ever vote Democrat ever again?

Klein is much maligned and hated by the Left. He was of the Left, but he was also willing to look at and report on facts, and he had to unalign himself after looking at the data.

Trump is not worse.
He's MUCH better than the traitorous murderous evil nasty not good ugly witch.

You are delusional buddy..........

WOW !! I didn't read the article on first pass either.

But when I did. WOW!!

I was only marginally impressed with the tax proposal when I first heard the highlights.

This analysis is GREAT !! I'm going to get behind this change big time now.

Thanks for highlighting this info - I wonder if this will be enough to get all the RINOs in line to support?

Rinos are stupid.
They don't read bills before they vote on them...

I can't even remember the last time I worried about "itemized" deductions, such as mortgage interest.

The thing that chaps my hide is that-- as a self-employed person-- even if I only make $750 a year, I have to pay Social Security tax... into a system that sends me a statement annually that includes a "notice" that I should make "other arrangements" for my retirement than SS because there may not be any money by the time I am old enough to claim it.

when I was self unemployed I typically payed many times in SocialSecurity than I did in income tax.

BONUS...I got to pay twice as much...I didn't have an employer to pay half of it.

Same thing here. And then I get a "deduction" for 1/2 of the tax. Whoop-tee-doo.

sux don't it?
BONUS!
I got to pay a tax preparer (familiar with trucking tax laws...) about five hundred a year.
That's a BIG DEAL....I know one guy who screwed up on his taxes and the IRS took his business...his home...and all his possessions...he damn near went to jail.

all because of an 'uh oh' on his tax form.

I don't see how this is going to help much. While I'm all for people paying equal shares, I have a problem with this, mainly because taxes on the rich will only make them hoard their money even more. If you can pay cash for your house, why take out a loan and why pay interest?
I'd be all for getting rid of all taxes and having the government mining crypto currency and using it for their own goals.
I just want the government to get out of everyone's life and leave us alone.

ah...you didn't read the article did you young gwasshappah?

Good news. No more tax money being used to pay for the mansions people buy on debt in order to get an immidiate tax write off. Every deduction people take is a tax on everyone else.

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