RE: Name YOUR decentralized social network?
So I presume you prefer mosh as the monetary token instead of my proposal for cred?
But have you contemplated the purpose and use of this proposed token? Users will be onboarding onto various applications built on the decentralized ledger such as blogging, video sharing, Q & A site, etc.. They will accumulate more of these tokens for their activity on the apps. My thought is the tokens would represent credibility and credit (not debt but merit) on the site. Do you prefer mosh because it shares the first two letters ‘mo’ with ‘money’? But we’re not primarily creating an electronic money for general use, as the first priority focus. Scaling a currency to general use requires years or decades. The near-term use of the token is within the apps (and presumably for speculation).
Another issue is do we want to use the same name (e.g. Mosh) for all the possible applications that can leverage the decentralized ledger? I think probably not. My thought is we want names best fit for each application, e.g. the Steem blockchain has Steemit and Busy for blogging, Dtube and Dlive for video sharing, etc..
So my thought is Mosh would be a good name for music sharing but it wouldn’t be a good name for a blogging site. Do you disagree?
For the token names I considered, I ranked yak as #10. So I also don’t like it as name for money. It is sort of catchy, but has bad connotations as you noted and there are better choices. Why do you not like cred or mojo? It seems to me that both of those have meanings which associate with merit or power. Whereas, mosh doesn’t have any establish meaning which associates with anything related to money. Do you like mosh because it is abstract, different, disruptive, and rebellious? I do too. That is why I like the name Unglued for a video sharing site (“unglued from mainstream TV”), but I want to read what others think about that? And because it has no established meaning such as the magical power of Mojo?
Note rebellious concepts may turn off some females and some in the mainstream of society. I suspect females like Steem because of the positive notion of esteem. Steem was the first crypto project with significant female adoption. The name Mosh may be very masculinity targeted. I hope can get some feedback from the ladies on Steem.
You have a point in all what you say. But are you sure Cred hasn't been used for a concept like this before?
Different names for different features is not bad, but I wouldn't use too many, it could become quite confusing. When I first came here, it was like a maze, and it took me months to get everything figured out, with Steem, Steemit, Dlive, Dtube, Dmania, Busy, Esteem,... I know for a fact that this puts lots of people off, for joining Steem(it)...
I know it is hard, but you should be able to get a link (namewise) in between the different platforms and features of your network, to get user friendliness at a high.
But you are correct that Cred sounds better than Mosh. But with good marketing a name can be associated with anything. I really liked the sound of Mosh, but I get your reasoning.
Greetings, Pele23
Akaik, nothing in a big way that would compete with us rolling out with it to hopefully a larger-scale adoption. If anyone knows of any such conflict, I would appreciate if they would post here.
As I wrote in my blog, I’m aware that Verify and Credo named their token CRED but I expect that project to fade away and it’s already one of the 100s of ostensibly illegal ICOs.
I agree that is confusing. One potential improvement to perhaps make it easier is if the main portal website (e.g.
credom.comorcred.net) keeps a wiki list of the apps and descriptions of what they do. So the users can then go to the portal to familiarize themselves. If the portal is also decentralized, i.e. anyone can contribute to the wiki, then there it can’t be alleged that there is centralized control. As for preventing vandalism or discord at the wiki, that is where my design for decentralized rankings comes in (I will not describe that in detail now). Or an elected foundation could maintain the portal, but democracy is always centralized.Typically users will be arriving at an app because they like the content or concept and want to join, e.g. arriving at Steemit for blogging and Dtube for video sharing. And for our project that might be Candid for the blogging, Unglued for the video sharing, YaketyYak for a discussion site, Grok for a Q&A site, and Mosh for music sharing. If they want to signup, they’re be directed to the decentralized ledger portal, e.g.
credom.comorcred.netif they want free tokens from the faucet signup process.Some of the confusion you mention is being caused by the competing names, e.g. Busy is a clone of Steemit and Dlive is a clone of Dtube apparently without the 25% fee. As I said I have a design for curation which will squelch the discord and confusion by algorithmically (automatically with an option for individual manual override) detecting like-mindedness amongst curators.
I don’t think it works to have a music app and a blogging app in the same UI and thus using the same site name. A music app will have a much different format. You could put all the apps under the same site name, but then you have centralization, which is one of the bad things we’re trying to disintermediate. Decentralized competition will advance the state-of-the-art faster.
I think Mosh would be great for the music site on the Credom or Cred decentralized ledger. Hopefully Mosh would become very popular and cause much adoption of the Credom (aka CRED) system.
OTOH, I do get your point about unifying around one name. And Mosh is appealing to males, but that reinforces the point that one-size-fits-all causes discord. I think I get your implied point which is CRED sounds vanilla and rehashed. Mosh seems avant-garde.
Mosh could be confused with ‘mash’ and ‘mush’, yet Cred could be confused with ‘crud’.
P.S. You have reminded me (of an issue I had noted before) why it’s probably deleterious to introduce yet another name Credom (in addition to the token name
cred) and instead better to use Cred for the portal site name. We already purchasedcred.me.Good to know, I have helped you in a little way. Good luck with the project, and I am following you now, so I can see the progress! I wish you the best.
Your feedback combined with @heavyd’s comment has generated a unifying idea.
Good for you man, I am quite curious!
Please note a new discussion which is about I added to the blog the name choices: Illume, Gist, and Knugget.
Ok, I’ll check it out later!
I think we’ve made a lot of progress on the naming ideas with my latest comment reply to @quillfiller. Thanks again for all your help. Don’t feel obligated to reply. Just wanted to let you know about the new name ideas linked above which weren’t in the original blog post you read.
cred.me!!! that's a cool site name
Please note a new discussion which is about I added to the blog the name choices: Illume, Gist, and Knugget.
Credom sounds very cool. I also like the idea of cred as a token, sounds like you have to earn it.
Mosh does have a nice tone to it, and depending on the the logo, it wouldn't necessarily have to appeal to just men. I think you could "fem" or cartoon it up a bit without loosing the male appeal, while gaining much more female ones.
I agree yak makes for a bad token, but it's a nice name for a blog/miniblog/or really any communication type thing.
I’m not envisioning how we would feminize a punk/rap Mosh meme for a music name nor if we even need to (purple is already colorful/playful). I think it’s not a significant problem though, because women (as is the case for all people) do have varied tastes in music, so we can’t stereotype entirely even though many would like sentimental and fun music. The main point I was making about Mosh being masculine is that we might not want to adopt it as the overarching name for the token because of that punk association. Even if we see females into punk, it’s often because of style, attraction, rebellion against paternal control, and not because of a desire to reorganize the power structure of society (except perhaps to defeat paternalism although I think most women are not hardcore feminists). I think females would be more enamored with promoting positive individuality of CREDibility than confrontational societal organization of rebellion as the overarching concept. Females are typically not as focused on the broad organizational issues as they are on the local issues of life. Both are important so I’m not denigrating their focus.
In summary, I think Mosh is okay for a music system name. Females will go find the music where it’s most convenient to do so, e.g. my gf uses Youtube.