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RE: All aboard, the @flagtrail

in #cleansteem5 years ago (edited)

We have Steem Engine now. Token is created. I've already some code.

Regardless of whether you find value in the process, there are human moderators reviewing each flagged post and approving them.

Each follow on flag expresses concurrence to that approval and trust in the SFR team. It's is a reply not to the OP of the flagged post but the bot comment or original flagger comment.

Therefore, in that context, suggesting it is spam is a reaching. The follow on flag comments are relevant to the parent content whether they are automated via flag trail or manual.

Maybe stop sippin' that haterade for a second and consider how much work you are overlooking in all this.

I get damn near slave wages as a dev but it's not about the $$$. It's about affecting the profitability of reward pool abuse... But you would prefer people aren't compensated and would brazenly call the activity spam wholly disregarding what is happening in the background off-chain. The coordination. The teamwork. The camraderie. Fuck all that, right?

This is precisely why I will be recommending any SFR supporter unvotes your witness. I'm fed up with your shit.

@steemflagrwards fysa

Alcon, if you are voting @ats-witness, take note of the adversarial posture he has taken against what we do.

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This is worse than spam IMHO and the core issue with this platform.

Someone criticizes how you do what you do and your response is to get mad, then ask for others to pull support from that person ... for not agreeing with you.

This is why STEEM sucks, it's the people, not the spam.

Yeah, it’s the people like Anthony here who turn valid criticism into “Stop shitting on my spam project, bro!”

And the hypocrisy is even worse. This guy is so anti-bot that he created his own bot. He’s so anti-vote-selling that he created a token for a bot that will essentially sell votes...but for flagging.

And then he probably uses this bot project to get those delegated Utopian votes as well.

All of this selfless work “for the community, bro!”

Then he pretends that we’ve had any real discussions other than me pointing out his spam project and hypocrisy...and then also pretends that he has somehow “checked” me.

Hey, whatever he needs to say to get some Steem street cred.

Hmm...maybe I’ll screen shot this shit up. Then we can see just how absurd he is with all of these self-righteous claims he likes to make.

I do wonder though...do his chat comments align with his blockchain comments? Inquiring minds, bro...

What the frick did you just freakin say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Flag Corps, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on meme ripoff vote farms, and I have over 300 confirmed SFR flag mentions. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top flag campaign coordinator in the entire SFR armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the frick out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my freakin words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, mother trucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the blockchain and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're freakin dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill your reputation in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your effin tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you damn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're frickin dead, kiddo.

Note: This is just a copypasta meme and totally not serious. I just thought the absurdity of it would have possibly got a laugh out of my favorite critic. Sorry if it was interpreted otherwise.

wow. I've had four kids and been sleep deprived all to hell and never one time did being tired make me resort to physical (and otherwise!) threats on a person.

Was trying to take the edge off w a meme 😬 It's copypasta. Not serious at all.

Edit: Sorry for the assertions about taking sides.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/navy-seal-copypasta

phew! u skeered meh!

He's been giving me shit for a minute. It's the complete disregard for the off chain activity and work put in on discord for the sake of Steem that ticks me off.

I don't reckon you have been of our Discord but there are plenty of people to bear witness to what is going on. Many of them can be found in the thread.

Ats has shitting on SFR for a while. It's not honest criticism but more theatrics. He and I have got into it a few times. I checked him for being an asshole on @steemalliance. It's his way.

There is a positive ways to give feedback. Like yes, I am working to deprecate follow on flags. I just had a baby, am sleep deprived, and am tired of his attitude. I've dealt with it a few too many time and other people on the chain (not his buddies) know EXACTLY what I am talking about.

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David just had a baby tew, give him a break bro!

He also has no frens, so we can't be "buddies" ... but i get that the collectivist mind can't comprehend individualism. #honk-honk

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I'll trade you your Clown Ned for my limited edition Jim Honkler.

Yo I'm done having it out with him. I just need to hurry the hell up and ax the follow on flag feature so he can't wag that in our faces anymore.

Worked until 3 am last night and think we're getting to the finishing stretch. At least he pushed me to make more progress so there's that.

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Therefore, in that context, suggesting it is spam is a reaching.

It’s comment spam. It’s not “reaching” to identify it as such. That’s just what it is and it’s worthless in terms of “adding value to the blockchain.”

This is precisely why I will be recommending any SFR supporter unvotes your witness. I'm fed up with your shit.

Cool story, bro. Go fuck yourself. I don’t give a shit about witness approval from self-righteous, virtue-signaling, hypocritical assholes.

You whine about not “getting paid.” Did you ever stop and think about why that is? Did it ever occur to you that your spam-and-reward service on Steem just isn’t in high demand from people actually willing to pay for it?

Maybe invest some of your pittance into some business and economics 101 classes.

Everyone, if you’re supporting Anthony here in any way, take notice of how fucking high-and-mighty and utterly clueless he is.

Did it ever occur to you that your spam-and-reward service on Steem just isn’t in high demand from people actually willing to pay for it?

No, it's not designed for my personal profit probably which is probably more than I can say for your bid bot endeavors.

  • It profits good flagging.
  • It profits anti-abuse.

I give my time knowing all too well it is worth more than I will get back. It's all good. I'm okay with being a flag force multiplier as a hobby. I would just need to put in an extra hour at my job to pay me what I get for my highest paid posts (utopian project updates)

Whether you want to accept it or not, there is a demand for what I do. It's just not extremely lucrative in terms of MY wallet.

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Says the man from the high horse. Give me a break!

I already explained the rationalization for follow on flag value so whether you accept it or not is on you. The crux of my argument is the ACTIVITY off chain is where the value exists.

Are you that dense that you reject that value can be imported from activities that occur off-chain? I'll enumerate a list again since you seem slow to understand.

  • Tracking abuse
  • Initial flag mention
  • Mods grabs from Discord and assesses
  • If approved, mod issues discord command on bot channel.
  • If the abuse warrants, flag trail will be invoked requiring a subsequent command.
  • The mod then comes back to SFR and issues the batch follow on approval command.

The trail followers help shave value from abuse and it is transferred to them in the form of rshares because you know well most users on this chain will not do something without an incentive.
That's the process. What you are telling me in that there is nothing of value to the chain? If so, you are beyond help and not worth one more second of my time.

✌️out

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The crux of my argument is the ACTIVITY off chain is where the value exists.

Oh, right. I forgot. Chatting on Discord makes it totally cool to spam and reward yourself and your friends...in the name of “protecting you from spammers!”

What a fucking joke.

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