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RE: Resource Credit Delegation Being Worked On

in #busy6 years ago

What a huge mess this is! I'm am watching redfish delegate their sp to noobs they brought in right now and then they both die. Yes, we are really at a point where people with 100 sp are trying to save the place. Good grief!

At the same time, I see a comment in one of my steemit fb groups asking if it really true that you have to "buy in" just to be able to comment here. Several people say "Yes!" The person replies that steemit is an obvious scam and decides to stay on intsy and fb where you can comment for free.

Meanwhile we got 5000 new accounts the other day according to penguinpablo. I would love to know the kill rate of that group.

But happy day! The votes for those of who are already here are somewhat bigger. So the fork is an awesome success.

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Since those 5,000 accounts were created through Steemit, they all got the same 15 SP that was always delegated.

Accounts created through Steemit have not changed since before the HF.

The problem is that now if you make one post and 5 comments with that 15 sp, your rc is dead for a week. The common advice I am seeing is for people to "buy in" for 100 sp. This is scamworthy advice to someone looking for a social media platform to post on.

The budget of all pools have been increased to compensate this. The cost of a vote has made 19x cheaper, custom_json operation was also made 20x cheaper (except of follow custom json operation).

When these go into effect, the accounts will have more

As for buy in, I am not sure how one is buying anything when they own the money they put up. The 100 SP, in your example, still belongs to the account.

Of course, since it was implemented, it was said that it would take some time to reach AND that Witnesses had the ability to alter the costs in the code.

It seems like that is exactly what is happening.

This is just the type of comment that makes no sense at all to a person fresh off the street. Content creators are normally not asked to "invest" in the platform in order to make comments on it if that is the point your are making.

I'm glad the witnesses are spending their time fruitfully. A fix to this cannot come too soon.

It is a scam, grtz... did it sink in?

With 100 SP, the inflation/dilution game has started. Before they could outrun this inflation/dilution by selfvotes and making lots of posts and lots of comments in the hope someone will vote on them. Now they will never be able todo that.

This is intentional. It's greed from the centralised masters, the devs, witnesses, they are all in the same boat. Thats why this website stays as it is, no innovation, no updates, nothing nada....

Because the blockchain is growing and growing, the costs to keep it running is hitting their profits... so they went some steps further... invent resource credits...

Don't judge what they are saying, judge what they are doing.

They all keep the mantra going on, steem to the moon... but it should be steem into their pockets...

@nokodemion, I completely agree with what you are saying. This entire situation is created intenionally, and greed and a feeling of superiority are the reasons why.

Hey, @fitinfun.

I agree. Content creators are not normally asked to invest in a platform in order to make comments. They also don't potentially receive rewards for their comments either. Those social media sites are generally subsidized by advertising or by selling off data collected from users, too.

The problem is, there is a cost to everything, but usually there's someone else paying for it. Here, I guess, the costs have been largely picked up by Steemit Inc. The move to RCs, in my mind, means that Steemit Inc. is done picking up the tab. The costs need to be shared among all users, which apparently means, having enough to even function, let alone potentially do enough to make anything here.

So, what I wasn't told, and what you probably weren't either, along with everyone who has come in after us, is this is not a free social site, and there is a minimum amount required to function, even if the account is 'free.' That's where the 'freemium' comes in we've been hearing about lately, like an in app cost you might find in a smartphone game. You can play the core game if you like, but if you actually want to level up, win, etc., you'll need something else to do it with.

Personally, I think those who were here pre-hard fork, at the very least, should be able to function as they were before. Everyone since, I'd like it if they could function to, and I agree it is in the best interest of the social part of the platform if they can, but so far, aside from the potential changes suggested in this post, I don't think that's the direction this his heading.

Yes, we are really at a point where people with 100 sp are trying to save the place. Good grief!

Empathy.

A bandage. Not a solution.

If I would have joined after HF20, I would have drained my SP doing mistakes like futile upvoting and editing texts. The cost of doing anything in Steemit for small accounts is too much. An enthusiastic person is bound to do mistakes that drain RC and during that long recovery time a potential future Steemian might be lost forever.

Oh, and even though my upvote to you is only 0.01 at 100%, it's not futile and lost, thanks to @dustbunny who I trust to gather my dust. :)

It's indeed a bandage instead of a solution.
But it's an important bandage, because if nobody does anything and waits for the so called 'fix', the entire redfish userbase will be gone and will never return.

Starting tomorrow, I will be delegating more than 1000SP to people who need it to be able to function here. I will take users who have shown commitment and quality up to 100SP. So that will probably be about 12 users , while hundreds, maybe thousands have been muted by this system.

And just like @fitinfun, people with 100SP ask me for advice about whether it would be a good idea to delegate a little of their SP to someone else.

I think that's sad... there are so many users here that have so much SP that they wouldn't even notice if they would delegate a couple of thousands sp to get people going again. It doesn't have to be for long. Just until the 'fix'is released (which might be soon, but might just as well take another year... SteemIt-style).

It saddens me that it's left up to the minnows who have barely enough to function themselves, to save this place.

There are a couple of exceptions, but the biggest part of those larger account simply don't give a damn. They won't shred a tear if the entire redfish userbase would be gone tomorrow. I just wonder why they don't realize that if there is no instream of new users, this place will go down fast...

Starting tomorrow, I will be delegating more than 1000SP to people who need it to be able to function here.

Awesome! :) Thank you for doing that! I think it's fairly easy to grow here from 25 to 40 if one just has enough resources to comment. You are doing a good deed! And it really is important to keep the red fish here as you said:

f nobody does anything and waits for the so called 'fix', the entire redfish userbase will be gone and will never return.

Helping others helps Steemit and us all.

Exactly. I read about someone draining all their rc by editing their first post here. I'm sure it got no votes.

Good for you to "invest" in dustbunny. I appriate that very much. I just don't upvote comments at all now unless I can do it for 3 cents...

I just don't upvote comments at all now unless I can do it for 3 cents

I understand. :) I guess this is something that people learn here quickly. That this is no Facebook where you just like or click any reaction to everything.

Yes they do, and it used to be that they could just wait a while, grow their power back and not screw up again. Now they need to "invest" or somehow get charity if they want to work here while new.

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