Should the Amount of Basic Income Vary With Cost of Living Differences?

in #basicincome7 years ago

Answering the question of whether basic income should be unequal.

A common first question in response to the idea of unconditionally guaranteeing a monthly cash stipend to everyone sufficient to meet their basic needs is in regards to a potential need for differing amounts of basic income. Let's examine this question from two perspectives: that of the individual and that of the location.

Should the Amount of Basic Income Vary With Cost of Living Differences?

First Perspective: The Individual

It's a lot more expensive to live in New York City and San Francisco than it is to live in Detroit or somewhere out in small town rural America. With this in mind, the logic goes that perhaps we need to make sure and vary the amount of universal basic income, so as to make sure that wherever anyone is currently living, they can stay there. If someone needs $2,000 to live unemployed and alone in a 1-bedroom apartment in NYC or SF, then that's what their basic income should be, so goes the argument.

This may sound fair enough on its face, until we look at basic income as a guarantee of a minimum amount of opportunity.

Right now people are guaranteed zero opportunity. However, if you happen to live in New York City, you are fortunate enough to have a much greater amount of opportunity than if you lived in rural America. In NYC, there are jobs, public transportation, people, services, commerce, and everything else the Big Apple provides. This is also why it costs so much more to live there versus rural America. It's an opportunity premium originating from the added value created by a dense population of people and wealth.

In Small Town USA, population: 500, there are few jobs, few people, few services, little commerce, and no public transportation. It costs a lot less to live there than in NYC because there is far less opportunity and far less wealth. It's an opportunity deficit.

A universal basic income however, provides increased opportunity to all in the form of additional cash. It's an opportunity bonus.

Everyone can use their UBI on anything they want. They can spend $500 on rent and $500 on food, or $333 on rent, $333 on food, and $334 on starting a business. They can live with relatives for $0 and use $1,000 per month on the pursuit of their passion, whatever it is. Someone could move to a big city to become an actor, or move to a small town to take life a bit easier.

Whatever someone decides, that $1,000 per month will always be there, deposited in their bank account without fail every four weeks (or $500 every two weeks). As cash, it will always be able to be exchanged for something else of infinite variety, especially now where anything can be purchased online and delivered anywhere. There are no limits on how the money can be used. Creativity would have full free reign.

With this now in mind, let's look again at NYC versus Small Town USA, with a hypothetical location opportunity ratio of 3:1.

  • NYC: $1,500/mo effective location opportunity plus $1,000/mo UBI opportunity bonus minus $2,000/mo rent and food = $500 total opportunity

  • Small Town USA: $500/mo effective location opportunity plus $1,000/mo UBI opportunity bonus minus $1,000/mo rent and food = $500 total opportunity

With an identical UBI of $1,000 per month for each person, they both end up netting the same amount of total opportunity because one has more location opportunity and the other has more opportunity in the form of cash after covering basic expenses.They also both have new choices.

Choose Your Own Adventure

If the person in NYC wants more opportunity, they can choose to spend less on rent and food by sharing expenses with other people. It may cost $2,000 per month to live alone, but it could only cost $500 per month to live with three roommates. Or location opportunity could be sacrificed by moving somewhere cheaper in order to spend less on food and rent elsewhere anywhere in the country. Living anywhere is possible for the first time because with basic income, income is decoupled from jobs, and whereas jobs don't exist everywhere, people can.

Meanwhile, the person in Small Town USA could make the same choices, but from the other side of the coin. They can save even more money by sharing expenses, or move somewhere more expensive and exchange cash opportunity for location opportunity. Maybe they've always wanted to try to be an actor in NYC and now they can, whereas before UBI, they were unable to leave rural America.

We all have a right to live anywhere in the country, but no one has a right to live specifically in NYC, and to do so living alone and with no job in the heart of the city. People have a right to live, and if they choose to live in NYC, they also get a ton of unique opportunities right along with that choice. And that additional opportunity compared to others living elsewhere should bear some kind of additional cost. It should be a trade-off.

If someone wants increased cash opportunity without changing their location opportunity, all they need do is cut their spending and/or share expenses with others to a greater degree than those receiving the same UBI elsewhere. If they'd rather keep more of their basic income instead of keeping their higher location opportunity, they can move anywhere else cheaper where there's less location opportunity.

Basic income unlocks these kinds of choices that would not exist otherwise, but it's one or the other and the decision concerning what kind of opportunity is more important is up to the individual. And these decisions will also have important impacts on the cost of living itself.

Second Perspective: The Location

There is another issue to consider here, which is if UBI is scaled by location, that location can get as expensive as it wants, like tulips. Where is the incentive for a city to keep its costs of living down, if it knows the federal government will guarantee any price to cover basic needs?

The point of a universal amount, is to say "this is the average minimum amount of money in this country required to cover basic needs." For those in lower cost of living areas, they can stay where they are and be even better off financially, or move to a more expensive location. For those in higher cost of living areas, they can earn income on top of their basic income, move to a cheaper location, or the cities or states themselves can make living there more affordable through lowering costs or increasing incomes.

What do I mean by increasing incomes? There is nothing stopping states and metro areas from creating resident dividends like in Alaska to increase the total incomes of those who live there. Vast oil deposits are also entirely unnecessary to accomplish this. Yes, even resource-poor states can do it. A study in Vermont showed just how effective this could be:

$1.2 billion of additional revenue would be available in Vermont each year if common assets were rented out instead of given away. That’s enough for a $1,972 dividend for every Vermonter... Our highest estimate of common asset value of Vermont is $6.45 billion. If all of that revenue were devoted to a dividend, it could be as large as $10,348.

So in Vermont, it would be possible for everyone to have a basic income at the federal level of $12,000 and at the state level of as much as $10,000 for a total of $22,000. In Alaska, their total income outside the labor market would actually be more like $14,000 with the added income from their existing dividend. California could do the same thing, and provide an additional $200 per month or more to its residents through something like a carbon tax or a land value tax. Any state or even city can do this, if they so choose.

Basic income gives people the basic freedom to move. This introduces downward pressure on prices, as cities suddenly find themselves competing for residents. If those charging rent charge too much, people are free to move where people are charging less. There will be more movement between small towns and cities nationwide. This creates the incentive to not raise rents. There's even an incentive to lower rents within cities through the introduction of smart new businesses looking to capture the new low-end housing market created by everyone having basic income.

We want greater geographic mobility too, because the amount of moving in America has gone down by half since the mid 20th century, to the growing consternation of many economists.

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If we guarantee rent at any level, there is no incentive to move to a cheaper location. We'd be removing competition between cities and encouraging those setting rent prices to raise them. We would be doing the opposite of increasing mobility.

If the cost of housing is guaranteed at any level, then that level will rise.

This same effect has been seen in Australia, where increasing child care has resulted in increasing child care prices. And we see this in the US college education system, where education is guaranteed at any price through loans, so prices just keep on being raised.

Giving more money for more expensive cities would say to those places, "Go right on ahead and raise prices. We will pay it, no matter what." And why would they not want that? More federal money per person in the state of California would be good for California. And then what of those in Mississippi? They aren't worth as much? They are less valuable as US citizens because it's cheaper to live there?

Adjusting a basic income instead of making it fully universal is not a good idea if we want to lower costs of living in high cost of living areas. Let everyone and everything be treated equally where all can adjust to the universal level, instead of perpetually adjusting the level around locations. The former would introduce competition between cities, where the costs of living would go down in expensive areas and up in cheaper areas. The latter would encourage rising costs of living in already expensive areas, which is something I believe we would want to avoid.

Existence Unchained

Basically, one of the most powerful effects of a truly universal basic income is the decoupling of income from jobs. People are at present effectively chained to cities. They're fenced in. They have little choice but to live near all the jobs.

Once people no longer are forced to live near metro areas in order to obtain the income required to live, the demand to live near densely-populated cities will likely fall while the demand to live in Small Town USA will rise. Together this will reduce the extreme price disparity between these options such that if the national average cost of living anywhere is $1,000, the extremes could go for example from $200-$2,000 to $500-$1,500. It goes up at the bottom and down at the top. But this only happens if we don't vary the value of the UBI and instead make sure every citizen is treated equally regardless of location.

Implementation

Granted, there will be people who want to move to cheaper areas, but may find it financially difficult to do so, even with their basic income, and so we should consider this. How will we handle this particular circumstance?

Well, I don't see the problem in covering moving expenses, either through a loan or grant as part of the introduction of UBI. We already do this to a degree.

Other agencies, such as the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Health and Human Services, the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Emergency Management Agency, also provide housing and moving grants to low-income individuals who are facing financial hardship.

Or we could possibly avoid such added administration costs by just giving a one-time additional amount that people can either use to move or treat as a stimulus bonus. Or we could potentially avoid all of this by just introducing UBI slowly, giving people time to adjust as it goes.

These kinds of details are implementation details, but that's all they are. They're certainly no obstacle to the idea of basic income itself. We just need to keep these kinds of details in mind to best design the eventual policies we end up enacting.

When it comes to the detail of setting the amount of a national basic income, whatever amount is decided upon needs to be the same amount for all citizens, regardless of location, not only for all the economic reasons above, but because in the eyes of government, all citizens should be treated equally.

Basic income is basic economic rights, and when it comes to rights, they should be equal.


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What would you say to a UBI of say $50 a month internationally?

The present global poverty line as defined by the World Bank is $1.90 per day. I think a worldwide basic income of ~$57 per month ($1.90 x 30) would be the best way of eliminating absolute poverty for everyone on Earth, but that wouldn't be even close to sufficient for covering basic needs in OECD nations like the US where the poverty line is $12,000 per year.

$50 per month can be absolutely transformative for someone living in Kenya, but not for someone living in the US, though it would certainly be better than $0.

Basically, if the world can come together to do global UBI, great! But each nation will still need to implement its own basic income, and as mentioned in this post, that does not preclude states and cities from implementing their own top-ups as well.

By the way, the fact that poverty lines differ so much worldwide makes cryptocurrency solutions all that more powerful. For example, if Steemit paid out a Steemit dividend such that say 10% of the value of all posts went to every active account on Steemit as their share of the value of the network that is Steemit, that could be seen as pocket change by someone in the US, but the difference between eating and going hungry by someone in East Africa.

I would say if the international community wanted to come together and do that it would be fine. It shouldn't preclude individual national, regional, or local governments from having their own UBI on top of the international one.

I believe a UBI is immoral until we can become fully independent of human labor. However I believe if it is implemented it should be a flat standard. It would not be fair to give a person more only because they prefer to live in a bigger fancier city. The simple country person has as much a right to the UBI as anybody else if that situtaion ever becomes a reality.

I see some of the points but I believe people tend to be selfish and do the minimum that is required of them. A UBI would only make that human trait worse and I believe that is more morally wrong for our future. I believe many things are worng right now in our society but a UBI is not an answer and would only aid in the short term while ruining our futures.

Of course that is unless we can become fully independent and have no scarcity of work. That os something that seems to idealistic for me and just not possible. At least not anytime soon.

It's actually an evolutionary beneficial pressure to only do the minimum of what needs to be done, unless it's fun to do or recognized by fellow people. Today, we act against these notions, creating work for ourselves that doesn't need to be done, rather than working on ourselves or community, just because we can put a pricetag on it, and because we can barely get get by with the declining earnings+EITC and who knows what.

The universal income could help to re-align work with what has purpose. People would still chose to work where they can make more money with the production of commodities, but if the money earning prospect is so little, looking at all the other work we have ahead of ourselves in community, self-creation/improvement, politics and so on, could be much more undertaken. That's the work ahead for humans, as we see an increasing decoupling of productivity in commodity production from human input. (this podcast episode does a good job at highlighting that pure manpower doesn't go as far as it used to, it's having a leadership position that goes far, it's having the network effect and consequently gating access to customers, that goes far to attract talent, that goes far to enforce a race to the bottom that ultimately only owners win. When you see an all industry spanning phenomenon occur in the past 10 years of massively increasing margins between cost of producing an additional item, and sales price, for all industry leading ventures to enjoy, but nobody else, it might hint that way at least.)

On the note of moralty, I think a strong case for it arises from the observation that we all come to this place with the ability to command and form the Land, economic opportunity, yet technology sees about its continued concentration in the hands of a few who happen to be already positioned well in their respective industries, or who happen to have inherited plenty.

Making ourselves increasingly dependent on whoever happens to already be in the field, rather than demanding an opportunity to compete, that seems not ideal to me. In a world where some speculate that 60% of GDP is due to the Land, seen as economic opportunity, maybe worthwhile to consider a universal, nonforfeitable stake in the land, for everyone, realized one way or another. Be it free advertisement from facebook/google. Be it universal income. Be it sovereign wealth funds. Be it re-organizing of the money system to not require the self-indebting to parties who you owe nothing, (or inheriting,) to access the Land, anymore. (edit: right to be represented by a bot might also go pretty far to allow people to more readily compete when it comes to platform creation. Since the bot might just pick up on new platforms automatically, representing you there automatically too. Though might be more of a long term project to really make a dent in the monopolizing force of the network effect.)

The moralty of the issue becomes clear when talking about the Land and republican freedom, freedom from domination by each other, in our relationship with each other and the Land.

Your comments are very interesting and informative. I have followed you, looking forward to your posts.

Although your New York numbers are highly optimistic, I take your larger point. The UBI would be a basic income for someone living in a small town, would keep a roof over their head and enough to eat. In big cities it would be a bonus or subsidy you could either save or use if maybe you were choosing between two high pressure/high paying jobs and one paid somewhat less and was somewhat closer to what you actually liked doing. The extra $1,000 might make a difference. It would also mean landlords could require $12k less per year in minimum income to qualify for apartments.

It would still mean only people with very high paying jobs could live in New York (or as you suggested people who are willing to live with roommates and (at least for now) in the outer boroughs before they become too gentrified.

At the same time, I'll point out that the average studio in Manhattan costs $3115 and is 1 room only. Sharing 1 room with 3 roommates would currently be illegal, though certainly there are landlords who will do this under the table. You would still be paying $778.75 per month on average and would probably need to fill the room with 2 bunkbeds for 4 people (also illegal.)

Bloomberg introduced the idea of micro-apartments between 250 and 350 square feet and got some special loophole to allow them to go forward (previous law forbade units under 400 square feet) and these buildings have now opened under DeBlasio. They are still renting for $2600.

If I had an extra $1,000 per month I'd very likely use it to max out my 401k or put it in some other investment. If I were a new college grad or someone in a lower income job I'd still need to live way out at the farthest end of Brooklyn, Queens or the Bronx and maybe split a 1 or 2 bedroom with others. How I lived would still be largely determined by my job.

hope this gap will end someday.. and equal income may be provided

Universal basic income would go a long way toward reducing inequality. That's for sure.

And in doing so, we'd also greatly stimulate the economy, because inequality has gotten so extreme, it's actually impeding economic growth.

A "crowdfunded basic income" is called a salary, paid for by people who believe that you create value for them

And that's where the whole argument for basic income (socialism with a newspeak name) falls apart. Paying people to NOT create value is how innovation and creation dies. Anyone that CAN self actualize does it already.

It never fails to amuse me the way people use the word socialism as an insult. As a sociologist who has supported socialism all my life I fail to see what the problem is. Socialism is simply the recognition that all humans are born and die the same, have the same rights and responsibilities, hopes and dreams.

As for your point that Basic income pays people not to create value, that significantly depends on how you see value. Personally I see value in caring for your children yourself instead of paying others to do it. I see value in enjoying a long walk on the beach, perhaps sharing a smile and a "good morning" with those I pass. I see value in learning something new, or in sharing my knowledge with others in a community class. If none of these things were considered as creating value, then those who have retired are no longer of value to society and that is fundamentally wrong.

As for your last sentence that anyone that can self actualize does it already - that is also incorrect. Maslow's hierarchy recognized that while we do work on many levels at once, our focus tends to be drawn regularly to the lower level needs first. A man cannot contemplate the mysteries of the universe while searching for his next meal or a dry place to sleep. People need food and shelter security before they can worry about self actualizing, and while it is surprisingly common for certain groups (those who have grown up with opportunity or privilege at their fingertips) to believe that anyone can "do better" if they really want to, the reality is as vastly different. Those who are female, black, disabled or disfigured for example have less opportunity simply because of prejudices. Yes, in a perfect world everyone would have the same opportunity, but this is far from a perfect world. The idea behind basic income is to make the world a little bit more perfect by ensuring everyone's basic needs can be met so they are more free to pursue the higher order needs and wants and perhaps even follow a dream or two.

Socialism is mob theft with violence for noncompliance. It's immoral. It's an insult because it's a bad thing.

Anyone that has the capability to self-actualize has the ability to move up Maslows hierarchy without outside assistance.

Today, even a person in the ghetto lives better than the Crowleys of Downton Abbey. Better nutrition, air conditioning and access to all the world's information on a tiny device. And yet, look at all the fantastic innovation coming out of inner city America! /sarc

In the past great men still innovated, despite the fact that they were a few rungs down on the famous Pyramid. Where were they on Maslow's hierarchy? Yet, they still achieved greatness.

Did you live in Socialism or something like it? Communism? Because what you read in the books it is an utopy, Socialism, Communism and all this was just crap sold by Marx and company to distract the people to look for real solutions... Just saying... Someone who have live in a Socia-Commu-Fidelist country and know how it is in reality... it is not Erewhon.

What I have is not a salary, because it carries no work condition. No hours of my time are required.

As for the absurd notion that basic income is socialism, you may as well call Milton Friedman and Friedrich Hayek both socialists for supporting the idea, which if you know who they were, is one of the dumber things you could say.

So then you need to ask yourself, why did two of the greatest free market economists of the 20th century support basic income? And as soon as you ask that question, that's when you can start actually studying the idea and its merits instead of thinking it's something it isn't and just shutting off your brain to the discussion.

The closest thing in the world to universal basic income is in Alaska. It's a red state but Republican red not communist red. Everyone there gets a check every year for being a resident of Alaska. It's not paying them to not create value. Innovation has not died in Alaska. In fact the opposite is true. The dividend checks are good for business, for both business owners and consumers. Why? Because money is capital and also fuel for markets.

The above understanding is also confirmed by UBI pilots and unconditional cash transfer studies. Everywhere it's tried, people use the money to start up more businesses and self-employ themselves. It stimulates local economies. Look into the evidence for yourself.

There's a lot out there. Take some time to study it. You'll likely be surprised by what you find.

"no work condition. No hours of my time are required."

Guess what, if you work for the government, you can collect a salary with no work condition and no hours of required time as well! In some ways we already have a basic income, it's called the GS schedule, and wow, look at the boom in the Washington DC metro area!

The problem, of course is that boom is funded on the backs of the American taxpayers all throughout this nation. And someday, that bill will come due.

You are being disingenuous to Milton Friedman. He did propose a Basic Income, but to replace welfare spending because it was more efficient.

It was a concession, not something he fully endorsed.

Alaska is hardly a hotbed for technological development, and the oil dividend mostly goes to offset the higher cost of living.

Your comparison to government work shows you still don't get it. Government work requires people show up to government offices. Yes, much of it is bullshit, but it requires hours of time, even if people are pretending to do something else instead of engaging in the inspecting of inspectors inspecting inspectors. Basic income requires no time. It is an income floor. You can use it to do anything, and that includes whatever job you want or any volunteering you want.

Milton Friedman's reasoning was reality-based. In his own words:

I favor the negative income tax because it would be vastly superior to our present guaranteed annual income. It would cost much less, give more help to the truly poor, avoid interference with personal freedom, preserve some incentives to work, and drastically reduce the present bureaucracy.

If we lived in a hypothetical world in which there were no governmental welfare programs at all and in which all assistance to the destitute was by private charity, the case for introducing a negative income tax would be far weaker than the case for substituting it for present programs. For such a world, I might very well not favor it. But, whether desirable or not, that is not our world and there is not the remotest chance that it will be in the foreseeable future.

Reality exists. There is no reality where we get rid of all taxes and eliminate government. If you choose to live in reality, you therefore need to come up with something realistic. Basic income is that something. If we are going to redistribute income, we should do it in a way that minimizes government intrusion and maximizes freedom.

The welfare system is a shitty system. By targeting assistance we incentivize what it is we don't want. We don't want people not to work, so we give them money only if they aren't working? It's ridiculous. By doing that we are paying people to do nothing, and in fact essentially forcing them to do so, by promising to remove their assistance if they accept employment. This is equivalent to applying tax rates of 80% and above to welfare recipients.

Does that make sense to you? I hope not. It's called the welfare trap. So how do we get rid of it? We either eliminate welfare entirely, and in the process massively increase poverty, and along with it what we spend on things like crime and healthcare as a result, or we provide a floor for everyone, such that all earned income adds to that floor. With basic income, all employment increases one's total income. With welfare, employment can actually decrease one's total income via welfare cliffs.

This again is why Milton Friedman supported basic income, because he knew what welfare does to people and the economy by design, and knew the only way out of it, the only realistic way, because eliminating all government assistance programs is not realistic, is basic income.

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