Antifa are the Nazi Fascists and making more right wing fascists.
Two sides to a coin but the same coin.
Imagine a world where I can tell the Nazis and the commies and antifa and every other stupid hive mind mentality brain washed religion that they are stupid. oh that's called reality.
I cant wait till antifa drink the koolaid....... its the best part of the cult story.
So the guy that wishes a Jonestown scenario on a group of people, on a thread he created to spread propaganda against an anti-Nazi organization, is trying to convince me that he is not a Nazi.
LMFAO!
Still trying to call me a Nazi?
What % of the usa is Nazi?
How many of the people that antifa beat up Were Nazis?
The bullshit you play is the same Marxist bullshi that groups like blm preach. violent group claim they are about peace.
If I knew antifa and the Nazis and all the other bullshit groups wernt such pussies I would tell you to kill yourself. Wont happen though, antifa is the bitch type to get others to take them out cause they to pussy to do it them self. susicide by cop and pussy shit like that.
If you really want to make a sound that the world will listen to, mass group susicide. Hopefully the Nazis and all the others will follow suit ad then the rest of us individuals will go back to living a lot happier then while you are all alive
Wow, I seem to have really set you off. You don't make a very convincing argument with this sort of rhetoric. It's pretty obvious to anyone reading this that you do not hold the moral high ground.
hmmm, lets see.
I said fuck fascisim, fuck Nazis fuck antifa umm oh fuck religion and all Marxist bullshit and oh the cult and hivemind mentality. and umm yeah that they are stupid and would make the world a better place if they killed them self so everyone elese ouldnt have to deal with them trying to push their idealogs onto others forcefully like the Nazis and the commies did in the past.
Moral high ground your looking for after your original argument was that beating 53% of all white women was to many it should be about 13% of all white women in the uusa should get a beat down?
Fuck you yo, your one sick fuck trying to justifiy violence over words and ideas.
Kill yourself, please!
I am not a communist, I am a Democratic Socialist. If you are too lazy to do your homework and learn the difference, I am not going to waste my time trying to educate you.
Same result. I wouldn't take education from you if I was paid. Insults do not constitute reason.
I am not living in a democracy, thank God, if there is one, and socialism is only communism by a subtly different means.
You've apparently wasted all the time that you've lived so far. I'd recommend that you actually do the work to gain the knowledge you need to understand what you are talking about.
Please go back and start with the Trivium, the Quadrivium, and natural law. This is only the basics needed for an understanding of the atrocities of democracy and socialism.
I don't need to imagine that I am living in a world where National socialists are marching in the streets.
I AM living in a world where communists are, not just marching, but are beating people bloody, for exercising free speech, and burning down civilization. These Antifa are promoting an ideology that has easily killed more than 20 times the number killed by National socialists, who are, after all, socialists.
Antifa ARE the people that they hate, commit violence against, and of whom they destroy the property. The only difference is that National socialists want to subjugate those within their own borders, borders that they admittedly want to expand. Communists want to subjugate the entire human population, and will murder anyone who gets in their way.
I haven't seen any communist flags at any of these protests, however I have seen Nazi and Confederate flags.
Civilization is currently burning as a result of global warming. Idiots on the right think that God is punishing us for letting gay people get married, while scientists on the left are trying to tell us to quit destroying the planet.
I live in Portland, Oregon. I know some very radically left people. I have attended some very radically left events. I have never met an actual communist. I have met tons of socialists, but no communists. None of them are interested in subjugating or killing people. They just want healthcare and a livable wage for working-class people.
Some members of Antifa choose to get violent with Nazis because they feel that that is the appropriate thing to do when confronting someone that believes you don't have a right to exist.
If you haven't seen communist flags, it can only be because you are blind or not bothering to look.
It's almost cute that you still believe in, what I assume you mean, human caused climate change. All the information needed to understand the fallacy of this is available to anyone who will do the work to understand it. We do need to stop destroying our home, dumping chemicals in our food, water, air, and land, but climate change is not the fault of humans, and carbon dioxide is not a pollutant at even 1500 parts per billion, let alone the lower amount that we have now. Wow, did you pick the wrong subject to argue with me. I started out, a decade ago, as a global warming alarmist. When I actually, finally, decided to do the work to understand it then it quickly became apparent that there are more holes in the global warming argument than there is fact stringing the holes together. Global warming is all about appeal to emotion, specifically fear.
The scientific method is not 'left' or 'right'. That you think it is, is very telling.
They just want healthcare and a livable wage for working-class people.
They actually want people who are not responsible for these things to pay for them, enforced by the power of the state. Theft, in short, typical socialists, expecting others to subsidize their failure.
Some members of Antifa choose to get violent with what are not actual Nazis because these Antifa are violent, and they don't respect individual natural rights. They are immoral and criminal, pure and simple.
If you think a black and red anarcho-syndicalist flag is a communist flag, you need to do your homework.
OK, so you don't believe human activity has caused climate change, eh? I guess 97% consensus just isn't enough for some people. Some people think the Earth is flat. Some people think the moon landing was fake. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
As far as the kids and agent provocateurs getting violent and destructive goes, I don't support that. There are more effective means of resistance.
We already live with many aspects of socialism. It is part of living in a modern country. Libertarianism is antiquated. It's a childish pipe-dream that only 1% of the country believes in enough to actually vote for a guy like Gary Johnson. I am not impressed.
The communist flag is one of the signatures of the Antifa group.
Science doesn't, and never has, operated by consensus, 97% or otherwise.
Here, again, we see the reliance on logical fallacy. Your straw man implying that I have ever said anything about the moon landing being fake is more fallacious dissembling.
Then we have appeal to common practice, appeal to novelty, ad hominem, appeal to popularity, and an appeal to that which does not impress you, which, I think is actually an appeal to personal incredulity. All these fallacies are packed into the last four lines. That is quite a feat of abuse of logic.
You are not getting any better at this argument thing, are you?
Please show me a picture of one of these communist flags. I have literally never seen a communist flag at any rally I have attended or viewed footage of.
Also, take your pseudo-science and armchair psychology and stuff it.
The only hate I see is the flagging you are doing. Should I return the flag violence? all the rest is just words, if you were immune like you claim you wouldn't be flagging or even caring at that matter. But you are sooo oh sooooo butthurt over it that you are running around flagging anything and everything that gets your attention.
Wow just like antifa does in real life what a surprise.
Nothing says anti-fascism like flagging and trying to censor people with differing opinions right?
LMFAO!
Stick the gun in your mouth and pull the trigger pussy.
lol
Obvious fake is obvious. I wonder what kind of person is so afraid of antifa that they would resort to spreading lies and making fake posters.
There are too many nazis on steemit. I think I'm gonna start flagging them.
Look at those Polish women. Stripped naked, clutching their children, knowing they are about to be executed.
Fucking retarded calling me a Nazi.
Half of my family is Jew, my grandmorther had camp tattoos on her.
My dads cousins son spent a week in the tank of a porta potty trying to survive fascisim. He is now muslim and lives in iseral.
Good luck calling me a Nazi you fascist scum.
I call people that carry swastika flags and chant "blood and soil" Nazis. I call anyone that sympathizes with their cause a Nazi sympathizer. Seems reasonable to me.
Antifa did not create Nazis. They are a public response to a Nazi presence. They only go to rallies that are organized by Nazis. This isn't a chicken or egg came first riddle. Without Nazis, there would be no Antifa. The entire premise of the organization is to organize against Nazis.
Why would anyone want a daily reminder of what the Nazis did? That's not happening in America. What we are seeing is Antifa violence in the streets and just calling someone a "Nazi" doesn't add value to your argument or change anything.
Although tragic as her death was Heather Heyer was not murdered by a Nazi. She was run down while protesting by a security officer named James Alex Fields (allegedly). He wasn't a nazi from world war 2. The "nazis" aren't a huge political force in America.
One man's delusion is another man's enlightenment. In my view, it is deluded to take up ranks with Nazis. In your view, it is deluded to take up ranks against them.
Clinton won the popular vote by 2 million. Trump's approval rating is at 34%. Demographic studies show that the majority of college graduates voted for Clinton. The numbers don't lie. I am confident that I am on the right side of history. I trust educated voters and college professors more than I trust internet trolls that are possibly working for the Kremlin.
I'm not going anywhere, so I won't need to come back.
One man's delusion is another man's enlightenment.
That statement is truly a demonstration of delusion.
I knew it was only a matter of time until you accused me of siding with National socialists. The more you attempt to argue, the more you show yourself to be an unreasoning, ignorant individual.
Clinton is the worst candidate ever fielded by any party. I don't care what the masses say about it. This is not a democracy, it is a constitutional republic. I won't even bother defending Trump at this point. His actions are indefensible. He has accomplished none of what he promised, and, it appears, will not, but at least he's not a Clinton, or a Bush.
This is not a false choice between 'educated voters and college professors' and 'internet trolls that are possibly working for the Kremlin'. If you think schools in the U.S.A. are turning out educated individuals or retaining professors who don't toe the establishment line, you are gravely mistaken. This is about individual natural rights, and the freedom from their violation.
It appears that you can not have a reasoned argument, and can only accuse those who disagree with you of being National socialist, or Working for the Russians, or both in the same comment. This is clear irrationality.
If you don't think numbers can be made to misrepresent the truth, then you might want to go take a class in statistics, but, as we have already established, knowledge and understanding aren't things in which you are interested. For instance, 'the right side of history' is another clear logical fallacy, but without the Trivium, in which you've stated no interest, you wouldn't recognize it as such. Fallacy is not argument. It is sophistry.
If you are not going anywhere, how about a single reasoned argument, just one? I dare you to try to make a single argument without using a solid wall of logical fallacy. I don't think you can do it.
If you were not so deluded that you believe you are enlightened, you would understand the statement. I guess If you were self aware enough to consider the possibility that you may actually be either or both, we wouldn't be having this little conversation.
You hit a lot of the classic Libertarian talking points. I gotta be honest with you. Because I am both a crypto-currency enthusiast and a socialist, I have already had this conversation hundreds of times. Of those conversations, I have only seen one person flip from libertarian to socialist. I could always copy-paste a bunch of stuff from old conversations, or open up my meme stash and drown you with liberal propaganda. I can upvote each post and get $.06 for each of them. What I will not do is waste my time generating original content for a bonehead like you. Fucking libertarian liberal arts students read a couple books and take a couple classes, and suddenly they think they got the whole world figured out. You can't teach a person anything if they think they already know everything. Wait until the cold water hits you, and you finally learn that you don't know a damned thing. You obviously haven't been there yet, but the day will come. It does for everyone.
Here is your single reasoned argument. Only 1% of this country voted for Gary Johnson. Doesn't it seem a bit arrogant and unreasonable to believe that 1% of Americans have somehow figured out something that 99% of us haven't? We live in the communication age. Every American has access to the Ayn Rand books, the Ron Paul websites, and all the other kooky propaganda that brainwashes you guys. Do you believe the 1% of American Gary Johnson voters were "awake" and that the other 99% of Americans are a bunch of "sheeple" that just don't get it? Do you believe yourself superior to all of them? Are you prepared to admit you are part of a tiny fringe cult of gullible political neophytes and misinformed conspiracy theorists? I did it. I was a libertarian myself. I ate the red pill and went all the way to the bottom of the rabbit hole. At the bottom, all I found was Alex Jones selling supplements and water filters, and David Icke talking about lizard people from outer space. You guys are a joke, and you are too stupid to notice that 99% of Americans are laughing at you.
Name calling, threats, and false accusations is all you've got. I never voted for Gary 'Aleppo' Johnson. The more false accusations you level, the more that people will see what you are.
I was where you are over fifteen years ago, and was able to reason my way out. It's clear that you won't. I've had this conversation thousands of times, and defended many different positions. You have presented me with nothing close to new.
I expect idiots to laugh at me. Their inability to comprehend simple things leaves only the option to ridicule or fear what they don't understand. Also, yes, the majority of the human population are somewhat less than what could be called intelligent. I know my IQ. I am not worried if 999,999 out of every million laughs at me. The rest and I can be friends.
At least come up with some original insults, if that's all you can present as reasoned argument. I've heard all of these many many times before, they're boring, and inaccurate. From what I've seen of you, so far, I don't think you could generate original content if you tried. Go ahead, I dare you to try to be original. Nothing in any of you comments has surprised me so far, except maybe your profound lack of knowledge and insight. If you had actually come to enlightenment, been red pilled, and had the benefit of the Trivium as intellectual self defense, you might have found the truth, but instead you thought that because David Icke is crazy or lying, that everything is BS. I assure you the truth exists, it's somewhere in this world, and right now you are very cold, and not getting any warmer, boring.
I might have been a bit hard on him, but he all but begged for it. I even slipped in a few logical fallacies of my own to see if he would notice, he never did. His attempts were almost all ad hominems and straw man arguments. At least most people can slip in an appeal from authority, or something to disrupt the tedium of only two types of fallacy.
@chalidore is an admitted troll. I wouldn't get bothered by someone who thinks they're intelligent, and shows only stupidity.
I know he's not the only one, but I just use these dupes as practice. Also, if I show a reasoned argument, or at least a reasoned defense, others who see it may learn something.
If your anti anyone on a basis of their skin color your racist and punching children isn't going to help your cause. After awhile people will begin to see you for who you are.
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Antifa are the Nazi Fascists and making more right wing fascists.
Two sides to a coin but the same coin.
Imagine a world where I can tell the Nazis and the commies and antifa and every other stupid hive mind mentality brain washed religion that they are stupid. oh that's called reality.
I cant wait till antifa drink the koolaid....... its the best part of the cult story.
So the guy that wishes a Jonestown scenario on a group of people, on a thread he created to spread propaganda against an anti-Nazi organization, is trying to convince me that he is not a Nazi.
LMFAO!
Still trying to call me a Nazi?
What % of the usa is Nazi?
How many of the people that antifa beat up Were Nazis?
The bullshit you play is the same Marxist bullshi that groups like blm preach. violent group claim they are about peace.
If I knew antifa and the Nazis and all the other bullshit groups wernt such pussies I would tell you to kill yourself. Wont happen though, antifa is the bitch type to get others to take them out cause they to pussy to do it them self. susicide by cop and pussy shit like that.
If you really want to make a sound that the world will listen to, mass group susicide. Hopefully the Nazis and all the others will follow suit ad then the rest of us individuals will go back to living a lot happier then while you are all alive
Wow, I seem to have really set you off. You don't make a very convincing argument with this sort of rhetoric. It's pretty obvious to anyone reading this that you do not hold the moral high ground.
hmmm, lets see.
I said fuck fascisim, fuck Nazis fuck antifa umm oh fuck religion and all Marxist bullshit and oh the cult and hivemind mentality. and umm yeah that they are stupid and would make the world a better place if they killed them self so everyone elese ouldnt have to deal with them trying to push their idealogs onto others forcefully like the Nazis and the commies did in the past.
Moral high ground your looking for after your original argument was that beating 53% of all white women was to many it should be about 13% of all white women in the uusa should get a beat down?
Fuck you yo, your one sick fuck trying to justifiy violence over words and ideas.
Kill yourself, please!
Wow, you seem to be monumentally uninformed.
If it comes to finding a reasoned argument, I'd bet on @skeptic all day long before I'd back the likes of you, an obvious communist.
If I were you, I'd educate myself before continuing to demonstrate such obvious ignorance on a permanent blockchain.
I am not a communist, I am a Democratic Socialist. If you are too lazy to do your homework and learn the difference, I am not going to waste my time trying to educate you.
Same result. I wouldn't take education from you if I was paid. Insults do not constitute reason.
I am not living in a democracy, thank God, if there is one, and socialism is only communism by a subtly different means.
You've apparently wasted all the time that you've lived so far. I'd recommend that you actually do the work to gain the knowledge you need to understand what you are talking about.
Please go back and start with the Trivium, the Quadrivium, and natural law. This is only the basics needed for an understanding of the atrocities of democracy and socialism.
I don't need to imagine that I am living in a world where National socialists are marching in the streets.
I AM living in a world where communists are, not just marching, but are beating people bloody, for exercising free speech, and burning down civilization. These Antifa are promoting an ideology that has easily killed more than 20 times the number killed by National socialists, who are, after all, socialists.
Antifa ARE the people that they hate, commit violence against, and of whom they destroy the property. The only difference is that National socialists want to subjugate those within their own borders, borders that they admittedly want to expand. Communists want to subjugate the entire human population, and will murder anyone who gets in their way.
I haven't seen any communist flags at any of these protests, however I have seen Nazi and Confederate flags.
Civilization is currently burning as a result of global warming. Idiots on the right think that God is punishing us for letting gay people get married, while scientists on the left are trying to tell us to quit destroying the planet.
I live in Portland, Oregon. I know some very radically left people. I have attended some very radically left events. I have never met an actual communist. I have met tons of socialists, but no communists. None of them are interested in subjugating or killing people. They just want healthcare and a livable wage for working-class people.
Some members of Antifa choose to get violent with Nazis because they feel that that is the appropriate thing to do when confronting someone that believes you don't have a right to exist.
If you haven't seen communist flags, it can only be because you are blind or not bothering to look.
It's almost cute that you still believe in, what I assume you mean, human caused climate change. All the information needed to understand the fallacy of this is available to anyone who will do the work to understand it. We do need to stop destroying our home, dumping chemicals in our food, water, air, and land, but climate change is not the fault of humans, and carbon dioxide is not a pollutant at even 1500 parts per billion, let alone the lower amount that we have now. Wow, did you pick the wrong subject to argue with me. I started out, a decade ago, as a global warming alarmist. When I actually, finally, decided to do the work to understand it then it quickly became apparent that there are more holes in the global warming argument than there is fact stringing the holes together. Global warming is all about appeal to emotion, specifically fear.
The scientific method is not 'left' or 'right'. That you think it is, is very telling.
They actually want people who are not responsible for these things to pay for them, enforced by the power of the state. Theft, in short, typical socialists, expecting others to subsidize their failure.
Some members of Antifa choose to get violent with what are not actual Nazis because these Antifa are violent, and they don't respect individual natural rights. They are immoral and criminal, pure and simple.
If you think a black and red anarcho-syndicalist flag is a communist flag, you need to do your homework.
OK, so you don't believe human activity has caused climate change, eh? I guess 97% consensus just isn't enough for some people. Some people think the Earth is flat. Some people think the moon landing was fake. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
As far as the kids and agent provocateurs getting violent and destructive goes, I don't support that. There are more effective means of resistance.
We already live with many aspects of socialism. It is part of living in a modern country. Libertarianism is antiquated. It's a childish pipe-dream that only 1% of the country believes in enough to actually vote for a guy like Gary Johnson. I am not impressed.
The communist flag is one of the signatures of the Antifa group.
Science doesn't, and never has, operated by consensus, 97% or otherwise.
Here, again, we see the reliance on logical fallacy. Your straw man implying that I have ever said anything about the moon landing being fake is more fallacious dissembling.
Then we have appeal to common practice, appeal to novelty, ad hominem, appeal to popularity, and an appeal to that which does not impress you, which, I think is actually an appeal to personal incredulity. All these fallacies are packed into the last four lines. That is quite a feat of abuse of logic.
You are not getting any better at this argument thing, are you?
Please show me a picture of one of these communist flags. I have literally never seen a communist flag at any rally I have attended or viewed footage of.
Also, take your pseudo-science and armchair psychology and stuff it.
Take the ignorance, lack of intelligence, and lack of creativity, and wallow in it, it seems to be your forte'.
You have failed to respond to any of my comments with reasoned argument. Every thing is name calling, lack of comprehension, and misinterpretation.
What part do you think is pseudo-science and what part do you think is armchair psychology?
Here's an amusing and educational article concerning this issue.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-free-speech-movement-might-kill-free-speech/
its all bullshit.
everyone should be able to say whatever they want. words are not violence.
I stand with hate speech.
So fuck you drink bleach.
You are free to say what you want, but you are not immune to the consequences.
If you stand with hate, expect to lose.
So fuck you. Eat flags.
https://steemit.com/steemit/@skeptic/chalidore-flags-antifa-posts-only-a-nazi-would-flag-an-antifa-post
The only hate I see is the flagging you are doing. Should I return the flag violence? all the rest is just words, if you were immune like you claim you wouldn't be flagging or even caring at that matter. But you are sooo oh sooooo butthurt over it that you are running around flagging anything and everything that gets your attention.
Wow just like antifa does in real life what a surprise.
Nothing says anti-fascism like flagging and trying to censor people with differing opinions right?
LMFAO!
Stick the gun in your mouth and pull the trigger pussy.
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lol
Flagging someone for opinions deserves a flag. :) Have a good day, Sir.
Obvious fake is obvious. I wonder what kind of person is so afraid of antifa that they would resort to spreading lies and making fake posters.
There are too many nazis on steemit. I think I'm gonna start flagging them.
Look at those Polish women. Stripped naked, clutching their children, knowing they are about to be executed.
Fucking retarded calling me a Nazi.
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Half of my family is Jew, my grandmorther had camp tattoos on her.
My dads cousins son spent a week in the tank of a porta potty trying to survive fascisim. He is now muslim and lives in iseral.
Good luck calling me a Nazi you fascist scum.
I never called you a Nazi, but having Jewish family doesn't give you a free pass. Really it just amplifies your shame.
Calling someone a name doesn't magically make you right.
You might benefit from learning what words actually mean.
I'm sure you call everyone Nazi that has an opinion differing to yours.
What shame? I am not ashamed of anything. LOL
Why and what would I Feel shame for?
If I make fun of how stupid antifa is it makes me a Nazi?
Is that how it works now?
I call people that carry swastika flags and chant "blood and soil" Nazis. I call anyone that sympathizes with their cause a Nazi sympathizer. Seems reasonable to me.
ok then well im not one of them so fuck you and fuck Antifa.
Antifa is creating the Nazi problem.
Pure cancer commin outa ur mouth.
Antifa did not create Nazis. They are a public response to a Nazi presence. They only go to rallies that are organized by Nazis. This isn't a chicken or egg came first riddle. Without Nazis, there would be no Antifa. The entire premise of the organization is to organize against Nazis.
What percent of America is Nazi?
O.o
Why would anyone want a daily reminder of what the Nazis did? That's not happening in America. What we are seeing is Antifa violence in the streets and just calling someone a "Nazi" doesn't add value to your argument or change anything.
Taliesin Myrddin Namkai Meche was murdered by a Nazi this year.
Rick Best was also murdered by a Nazi.
Heather Heyer was murdered by a Nazi.
Although tragic as her death was Heather Heyer was not murdered by a Nazi. She was run down while protesting by a security officer named James Alex Fields (allegedly). He wasn't a nazi from world war 2. The "nazis" aren't a huge political force in America.
BBC says he is a Nazi. Is BBC a credible enough source for you, or are you one of those folks that thinks anything that you don't like is fake news?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40923489
Oops sent t wrong person.
:O
How many jews did the nazis gas today?
Yep, that sure is what socialists do.
Grow up, learn your history.
Here's your daily reminder of what communists do.
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Russian fascists did this. Russian fascists are currently pulling the strings of your president.
How deluded are you exactly?
Come back when you have a reasoned argument, instead of flailing lack of reason.
One man's delusion is another man's enlightenment. In my view, it is deluded to take up ranks with Nazis. In your view, it is deluded to take up ranks against them.
Clinton won the popular vote by 2 million. Trump's approval rating is at 34%. Demographic studies show that the majority of college graduates voted for Clinton. The numbers don't lie. I am confident that I am on the right side of history. I trust educated voters and college professors more than I trust internet trolls that are possibly working for the Kremlin.
I'm not going anywhere, so I won't need to come back.
That statement is truly a demonstration of delusion.
I knew it was only a matter of time until you accused me of siding with National socialists. The more you attempt to argue, the more you show yourself to be an unreasoning, ignorant individual.
Clinton is the worst candidate ever fielded by any party. I don't care what the masses say about it. This is not a democracy, it is a constitutional republic. I won't even bother defending Trump at this point. His actions are indefensible. He has accomplished none of what he promised, and, it appears, will not, but at least he's not a Clinton, or a Bush.
This is not a false choice between 'educated voters and college professors' and 'internet trolls that are possibly working for the Kremlin'. If you think schools in the U.S.A. are turning out educated individuals or retaining professors who don't toe the establishment line, you are gravely mistaken. This is about individual natural rights, and the freedom from their violation.
It appears that you can not have a reasoned argument, and can only accuse those who disagree with you of being National socialist, or Working for the Russians, or both in the same comment. This is clear irrationality.
If you don't think numbers can be made to misrepresent the truth, then you might want to go take a class in statistics, but, as we have already established, knowledge and understanding aren't things in which you are interested. For instance, 'the right side of history' is another clear logical fallacy, but without the Trivium, in which you've stated no interest, you wouldn't recognize it as such. Fallacy is not argument. It is sophistry.
If you are not going anywhere, how about a single reasoned argument, just one? I dare you to try to make a single argument without using a solid wall of logical fallacy. I don't think you can do it.
If you were not so deluded that you believe you are enlightened, you would understand the statement. I guess If you were self aware enough to consider the possibility that you may actually be either or both, we wouldn't be having this little conversation.
You hit a lot of the classic Libertarian talking points. I gotta be honest with you. Because I am both a crypto-currency enthusiast and a socialist, I have already had this conversation hundreds of times. Of those conversations, I have only seen one person flip from libertarian to socialist. I could always copy-paste a bunch of stuff from old conversations, or open up my meme stash and drown you with liberal propaganda. I can upvote each post and get $.06 for each of them. What I will not do is waste my time generating original content for a bonehead like you. Fucking libertarian liberal arts students read a couple books and take a couple classes, and suddenly they think they got the whole world figured out. You can't teach a person anything if they think they already know everything. Wait until the cold water hits you, and you finally learn that you don't know a damned thing. You obviously haven't been there yet, but the day will come. It does for everyone.
If you are actually interested to know why I am a Democratic Socialist, please read this blog post.
https://steemit.com/politics/@chalidore/a-relatively-brief-recollection-of-events-and-experiences-responsible-for-shaping-my-current-political-affiliation
Here is your single reasoned argument. Only 1% of this country voted for Gary Johnson. Doesn't it seem a bit arrogant and unreasonable to believe that 1% of Americans have somehow figured out something that 99% of us haven't? We live in the communication age. Every American has access to the Ayn Rand books, the Ron Paul websites, and all the other kooky propaganda that brainwashes you guys. Do you believe the 1% of American Gary Johnson voters were "awake" and that the other 99% of Americans are a bunch of "sheeple" that just don't get it? Do you believe yourself superior to all of them? Are you prepared to admit you are part of a tiny fringe cult of gullible political neophytes and misinformed conspiracy theorists? I did it. I was a libertarian myself. I ate the red pill and went all the way to the bottom of the rabbit hole. At the bottom, all I found was Alex Jones selling supplements and water filters, and David Icke talking about lizard people from outer space. You guys are a joke, and you are too stupid to notice that 99% of Americans are laughing at you.
Name calling, threats, and false accusations is all you've got. I never voted for Gary 'Aleppo' Johnson. The more false accusations you level, the more that people will see what you are.
I was where you are over fifteen years ago, and was able to reason my way out. It's clear that you won't. I've had this conversation thousands of times, and defended many different positions. You have presented me with nothing close to new.
I expect idiots to laugh at me. Their inability to comprehend simple things leaves only the option to ridicule or fear what they don't understand. Also, yes, the majority of the human population are somewhat less than what could be called intelligent. I know my IQ. I am not worried if 999,999 out of every million laughs at me. The rest and I can be friends.
At least come up with some original insults, if that's all you can present as reasoned argument. I've heard all of these many many times before, they're boring, and inaccurate. From what I've seen of you, so far, I don't think you could generate original content if you tried. Go ahead, I dare you to try to be original. Nothing in any of you comments has surprised me so far, except maybe your profound lack of knowledge and insight. If you had actually come to enlightenment, been red pilled, and had the benefit of the Trivium as intellectual self defense, you might have found the truth, but instead you thought that because David Icke is crazy or lying, that everything is BS. I assure you the truth exists, it's somewhere in this world, and right now you are very cold, and not getting any warmer, boring.
Hey, if you want some entertainment, check out my two 'debates' with @chalidore on this very post.
Any criticism is welcome.
Sweet, after I answer al my comments ill check it out.
just reading this comment gave me a smile.
lol
I bet its gona be a fun one.
:D
I might have been a bit hard on him, but he all but begged for it. I even slipped in a few logical fallacies of my own to see if he would notice, he never did. His attempts were almost all ad hominems and straw man arguments. At least most people can slip in an appeal from authority, or something to disrupt the tedium of only two types of fallacy.
Lmfao!
I don't think you were to hard on im at all. A lot nicer then anything I would have said to him.
:D
At least the trolls I usually interact with have the creativity to use more than ad hominems and straw man arguments, and repeat.
I get stuck with the people that have no argument besides calling someone a Nazi.
lol
:D
lucky me right?
@chalidore is an admitted troll. I wouldn't get bothered by someone who thinks they're intelligent, and shows only stupidity.
I know he's not the only one, but I just use these dupes as practice. Also, if I show a reasoned argument, or at least a reasoned defense, others who see it may learn something.
Its funny now that he doesn't flag me and only tries to call me Nazi and stuff.
If your anti anyone on a basis of their skin color your racist and punching children isn't going to help your cause. After awhile people will begin to see you for who you are.
LOL