Lost in Translation - Filial Piety

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By now, you may be used to my blogs on lifestyle, travel, food and life, however, I have also written and contributed several articles on the dichotomies between Chinese and Western Culture, a broad topic which I intend to keep writing about. Some of the most important lessons I had from studying my Bachelors and Masters Degree in the UK are the greater understanding of westernised society, culture and it's people. I value these perspectives very much because they are (sometimes) vastly different from the the perspectives I once held exclusively, back home in China.
Anglo-Sino Cultural Exchange
It's important to continue this Anglo-Sino cultural exchange and help lower cultural boundaries, be more informed of local traditions, and build more connections with people from different cultures. So, in addition to my bi-lingual contributions, I'm also starting a series called "Lost in Translation".

The majority of my posts are bi-lingual, English and Chinese. For a short to medium length post, I spend a lot of time thinking about the content, but moreover how to translate concepts from one language to another. More often than not, the translating takes longer than the initial write-up, even then, I always sense some of my intended meaning is lost somewhere in the translation.

I realised long ago, that it wasn't the words themselves that lacked translation, but rather the situation offering no direct comparison. Today, the Chinese language remains one of the few syllabic languages in existence, with much of it's vocabulary deriving from ancient language and philosophy. For this reason, Chinese is often considered metaphoric, idiomatic and generally poetic. To understand it, you must grasp the context as well as the local customs associated with it.
Lost in Translation
Even the term "Lost in Translation" can be interpreted in various ways. Some use it referring to the loss of meaning or information when translated from one language to another. Whilst others use it to mean the loss of details when translating from one medium to another. How often have we expressed our disappointment in films adapted from books?

The movie, Lost in Translations was translated to 迷失东京 which when translated back to English, becomes Lost in Tokyo. This is often the case when translating text with deep contextual meaning and shouldn't be considered erroneous on the part of the translator. In the case of the movie, it was clearly irony used as a literary device, playing on the theme of the film.

Lost in Translation is also used when a description of an experience cannot convey a true understanding of the what the actual experience was really like. To this end, I would guess that most writers experience this fairly frequently.
Dictionary Definitions

A lot of Chinese words have dictionary translations but few mother tongue English speakers will truly understand what many of these words even mean. It would be unreasonable to expect a person unfamiliar with the foreign social concept, to understand the vocabulary associated with it. Especially when these concepts are completely void in their own upbringing and environment.
Filial Piety
Do you understand what this means?
For those that don't, (and I don't blame you), this is why I'm doing this series.
| Chinese | English | Pinyin |
|---|---|---|
| 孝顺 | Filial Piety | xiàoshùn |
Filial itself means "from son or daughter" and Piety means to carry duty and be devout. So, the general meaning is a devout and dutiful son or daughter.

The Chinese character 孝 is pronounced xiào. It's composed of two characters, the top character 耂 means old, and the bottom character 子 means child. You can see it as offspring supporting the old. From this logo-gram, we understand that this virtue manifested by xiao exists not only between parents and children but for any younger person towards an older person.

Thus, 孝 exists within the realms of a relationship and is influenced by the kinship of that relationship. This virtue has been taught to symbolise many attributes, most commonly - obedience, responsibility, duty, respect, provision and welfare, love, kindness, loyalty, tolerance, patience, politeness and so forth.
The character actually depicts the meaning very well.

The translation for filial piety should be considered a transliteration because of its limiting scope referring to the immediate child / parent relationship. In practical understanding, 孝 has flexibility and covers a spectrum of attributes which come in different qualities depending on the closeness of the relationship. Of course, the strongest form of 孝 is what Filial Piety (pertaining to Children/parents) attempts to describe but entails possibly more attributes pertaining to the 孝 of the individuals family and clan elders.
Family and Clans
![]() If the family lives in harmony, all affairs will prosper |
Confucius philosophy believes not in the individual but the family unit. As such, the notion of 孝 is predicated on the importance of both the family unit and the family name / clan name. This means, you are insignificant without your family, and nothing without the family name which you carry.
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This philosophy hence derives the importance of bringing honour to the family name, which is another face of the virtue of 孝.
To possess the virtue of 孝

To possess the virtue of 孝, is to be Chinese, to be Chinese is to have the prerequisite of the virtue of 孝. This philosophy is ingrained in the Chinese psyche and is an obligation for one who considers themselves Chinese. On the contrary, one who does not possess the virtue of 孝 is considered not Chinese (in the sense of a human) rather a foreign devil.

This essence of 孝 was founded in the Chinese tradition of ancestral Worship. We are not who, what and where we are today, if not for our ancestors carrying our family name. We, as a Chinese people would also not be where we are today if not for the continuity of our living heritage over the span of over 5000 years.
Thus, when Chinese people refer to themselves as humans, and others as foreign devils, it is in the sense of the Chinese being over 5000 years old, and others being young devils.
The virtue of 孝 remains a central ideology guarded by the Chinese for millennia, its moral conduct predates the philosophies of Tao, Buddhism and Confucianism despite being important in all three.
Are we lost yet?

As you can see, the meaning of Filial Piety carries with it, the weight of Chinese moral code nested unto the Chinese way of life. This detailed discussion of filial piety will help you understand the origins of its meaning, it's importance and place in Chinese society. Perhaps, it may enhance ones relationship with parents and supplement ones ideology of how to love ones parents.
In whichever case, the next time you see or hear about filial piety, there won't be any meaning lost in translation.
If you are interested in my other blogs related to Culture Exchange please check out these other blogs below
The Anti-social way of Socializing in Asia.
Why you don't see Chinese girls wearing Bikini's at the beach?
The Marriage Dilemma.
Having a Naked Marriage isn't a bad idea at all!
China's leftover women - Single and not necessarily successful!
It's Not Fair.
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I've been learning Chinese as a hobby for many years. Although it's rather easy to get conversational it's a really hard language to understand a lot of written material. Because there are so many cultural references and idioms in this language, as a Chinese language learner you basically have to become an expert in Chinese culture (中国通) at the same time. I doubt a lot of non-Chinese speakers are able to learn Chinese to a level you have mastered in English. I would be interested to see another post from you about the intricacies of the Chinese language.
I've always assumed that you were Chinese based on your previous replies. Your Chinese must be very good, even for a non-native.
The Chinese language is very old, but the thing that makes it difficult is not it's age, rather the fact that the language of today closely resonates with the language from ancient times. In Chinese, we like to say 活到老,学到老 . This is because the language itself carries much of the accumulated philosophy from 5000+ years of Chinese history - which there are endless scriptures to study. So, in order to have a mastery of Chinese, it is expected to take a whole lifetime of study.
Compared with Chinese, English is much easier to master because the written language doesn't read like a verse from Shakespeares play or like ancient English. It is very much congruent with the language used in nearly all aspects of life. Formalising written English can even be an exercise of simplifying the language used which is almost always the opposite in Chinese.
There are however a growing number of Chinese authors who prefer to avoid the proverbial jargon associated with formal written language and adopt a more colloquial approach sidestepping much of the outdated and out of place interpretations which feel outmoded in today's modern society. Furthermore, the rigour from this new approach reduces the amount of contextual semantic interpretation that requires the 中国通 you mention.
This will hopefully address the issue of relative illiteracy in China due to the high barriers the language itself presents .
Great answer, thanks. So there is hope for us poor Chinese language learners :) Although I think the proverbial jargon will still be used a long time, especially in order to show (off) one's level of education and 文化.
Very well written and insightful, thanks for sharing.... +1
thanks @majes, hope it wasn't too confusing. Cultural exchange can get a little overwhelming at times.
A large part of the difficulty in translating from one language to another is a different social default, something that people of one culture aware but now say or write out loud because it would be redundant. Sort of what you described by the hieroglyph below.

Yet when a target language doesn’t have the same social default a translator has to somehow compensate for this social default and create for the lack of a better word what I would call a “filler.”
Without such a filler the complete meaning of the passage would be either lost, incomplete or distorted. The story that I am about to tell will serve as an illustration of my generalization.
A friend of mine works as a manager in a company that produces electronic devices. The company headquarters is located in the US while its manufacturing facility is located in the Main Land China. The US-based research and developing team made a modification in one of the devices, which amounted to an addition of one or two capacitors or resistors. Before moving a change in production the engineering team asked the manufacturing facility to send them ten devices that will implement the new changes. The request was sent to the manufacturing facility, which responded that the change could be implemented very quickly and the resulting sample could be sent to the US headquarter in 2 weeks.
After waiting for three weeks and not seeing the test devices the engineering contacted the Chinese manufacturing manager and asked them when the devices would be shipped. The manufacturing manager responded that the items have already been shipped, a week ago just as promised. To that the US side asked whether the Chinese side made any special marks on the test party, enabling the American team to distinguish the test devices from the production devices. In response the Chinese side stated that what they did was only what was requested and since the American side didn’t require to mark the test devices they didn’t do it, but packed them together with the production items.
Formally, they were correct. The American side didn’t request to mark the test items with any additional labels. However, the American or European social default would imply that the test items should somehow be distinguished from the production model, which would enable the engineering team to test it rather than sending the untested devices to the consumer.
I wonder if there is a special Chinese hieroglyph that would enable an American team to compensate the lack of the same cultural default in this situation.
You are right that the social defaults differ. In your story, the misunderstanding arises from mismatched social 'defaults'. Clearly, the Chinese understanding of Business rites and ceremony differ from that of the US.
With regards to the scenario in the story, the US have their own set of Business Rites (lets call it protocol) and they likely came about from societal norms within their structural policy. i.e. at some point, some influential businessman made it unpopular for deliverables to be unmarked and from then on, all items are marked for disambiguation and it became policy to do so within the US. However, in China, the likely norm came about through all parties communicating their exact needs down to the minute detail. Deliverables are therefore exactly as requested, nothing more, nothing less.
Analyzing this situation in this way, you could say that the etiquette of business practice is different. The characters that best fit this (that I can think of) is 礼仪 (Lǐyí) which is the combination of 'courtesy' and 'rites' ultimately meaning protocol in this context, or in general - etiquette.
I think common sense is a little different. As you explained, in China they do exactly as requested, no less no more. The thought doesn't go beyond this point.
In Europe, where I am originally from, the thought follows the reason why the item was ordered, thus the expectation.
Cheers
Good article. I should've contacted you last night when I was trying to translate PunkTrackerTaoist. Even my top students were stumped. Apparently China doesn't have too many trackers, nor hold them in the same esteem. Finally found what I was looking for here here. Students agreed.
Personally, I like to focus on what we have in common--everyone loves good food and sharing it with friends; people meet, fall in love, some have families; laugh at yellow jokes (which are blue in English); and laugh at cultural cross communication.
Seasoned cross-cultural types will ask directly if something they don't get or might be taken the wrong way is a cultural thing before they judge. Usually Chinese people are much more tolerant of foreigners ways in their own country than we are of theirs in ours. Good lesson.
I can relate to this quite a lost. Sometimes I start my post in Chinese then translate to English but more often from English then translate to Chinese.
So, I use the appropriate English or Chinese brain to start with. Along the way, some funny bits are lost in translation. I have to admit still I have to get help from google translate or baidu translate for certain phrase.
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