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RE: SEC-S17 /W3| Imaginations do happen real
Hi @yourloveguru,
Glad to see that you are interacting with others. It is a little strange for me that you are responding to the comments of publications that are not yours, perhaps in an attempt to generate more comments without having to read a lot.
For me, This is another attempt to inflate the numbers, but I would like to know what other users in the community think.
Cc @inspiracion @adeljose @waqarahmadshah @wakeupkitty.pal @steemcurator01
Whatever it is, this is not the way. I am aware many writers do not even recognize what they wrote, a part can't because they publish the translation and do not recognize the copy-paste comment if posted in English and others are too busy and a part never reads comments or responses if mentioned.
What strikes me most of all is that the commenter has no idea what the context of the text is and thus the comment doesn't make sense!
To me it is not about the amount of words but the fact there's a comment with some (copy-paste) phrases, not personal at all and no engagement.
Can be it's not about being at the top of the list or... but I truly wonder why you @yourloveguru leave comments like these.
These comments are no proof of reading, they add nothing to the article and somehow they feel odd if I see your name 'yourloveguru'.
Besides the comments you leave are totally different from the comment you left here and they are not your opinion. Look at the last proof!
It's clear you do not understand what the problem is or perhaps you ignore it?
May I ask who taught you to leave comments like these since you are not the only one.
Just like you there are languages I have to translate, there are articles I need to think over or reread because I have no idea what is meant but I do believe if so we can ask the author and still say something to encourage. Using a translator is what I do too and indeed it takes extra time.
Better 5 well meant words and connecting with others than the meaningless copy paste and blah blah.
It is not about you not suporting others but the way you do it. With a name like yours you should be able to understand that. Love comes from the heart not the mind.
Perhaps you can learn from @ibesso @blessedlife @el-nailul or @grebmot how to engage, write meaningful comments, share thoughts. It's possible with a translator too.
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Excuse me !! How can you say that (copy-paste) phrases, not personal at all and no engagement. It is very easy to point on someone's hard work
If you read my comment, all are meaning ful and around topic and no copy paste.
I did not know it is crime here to comment on other people's comment.
Let me give you one example:
If I will go to friend's house and in that place there will no more friends so should I talk only to my friend who invited me, or if I like other people's talk so can we not share our thoughts.
What do you think of engagement??
Engagement means, you are interacting to people and discuss about opinion around topic and in conversation many times it is possible to cover few more topic but main topic is there.
I said now I will not comment on other' comment . I did not know so I did this. But It was not my intention and I commented on those comment which I liked . But okay I confessed that I will not comment on others people comment.
But if you are pointing that I am not engaging and I am leaving comments without reading post , so I think you read my comments again.
Many people are using thank you + different emoji but I am an author and I beleive in good writing.
At last, Steemit is my life and I never ever think of doing anything which against. If I did comment on others people's comment so it was lack of knowledge but no intention to increase number.
I am sorry if I hurt you.
Regards
Of course you can comment on comments others left that is also a part of engaging with Steemians but not the issue here.
It is the written word not the one you are talking to.
You did not hurt me, no worries about that, I like to believe we all have the right to express, comment and reply, share our opinion and feelings.
I agree with you that many say 'thanks' or not even that (plenty are never answer on a comment) but the problem we are dealing with is the increasing of 'fake comment', AI-comments (did not know that exists till just now) and copy-pastes of texts of the author as a comment (the last one I frequently receive and I know because the first words are badly written next my text is added to it).
So perhaps you can tell if you are using AI, if you notice comments like these, if there is a solution?
Btw I don't believe you left me a comment or it must have been longer ago. If lately I would have left you a comment.
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I agree that many people are using Ai and using fake comments but it does not mean every people are criminal. If I raise my voice means I trust on my work. I only use my mind to post comment. When I read post and comments and around topic whatever comes in my mind, I post as comment. I always make sure my self that my comments should be meaningful.
You will find any comment, you can see it is conversation and related to that person or related to topic. Some times as I said in conversation automatically covers others situation and topics because we are human not robot or Ai who can stick with only title.
Again I am sorry if I hurt you but Steemit is my life. I give my maximum time here. I sleep only 4 hours in night because in day time I work in shop so I work at night when my wife and daughter sleeps in another room . This is my hard work.
Regards
I give my maximum time too and it takes long to write, read and comment with my phone.
Did you read the other comments here?
I'm going to be perfectly honest. For the most part I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about and any semblance of coherence is pretty much accidental. That said: The secret sauce to my comments is basically just hitting my ramble button and then pointlessly meandering until something else grabs my attention. Like a cat with a typewriter.
Your "rambling button" helps you to create a personal comment. You do not need AI to generate one or copy a part of the text and past it into the comment line.
Trust my, my cat doesn't write that well.
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jajaja buen sentido del humor y la ironía!
Hi! Thanks for mentioning me as a good exemple. I'm honoured.
Do you know what the problem is here? I think I have figured it out clearly.
There is a race between many users which desire so much to win engagement challenges. In many communities they mesure engagement by the number of comments, indeed they choose winners on that criteria over many other great posts deserving a price. It's an issue the platform needs to take care of. You can make a lot of (good or not so good) comments but your post may not be the best one. You still can be taken as a winner. It is written in the rules.
It's a fact that the platform needs us to post, comment and vote. But I don't think any human being can make significant comments on every post, maybe someone exceptional.
In my case, not all I read inspires me a good comment. Besides, I can not seriously read all the posts, but the ones I read I truly read them. We all need money and we all want rewards, I wanna enjoy doing it. This kind of numeric competition doesn't make it enjoyable, and doesn't make engagement real.
Big hugs
I wouldn't have said it better, thank you for your time
When people comment on others' posts solely to win a contest based on the number of comments they make, without considering the quality of their comments and posts, just to receive a vote from steemcurator01, these issues are bound to arise.
Because of this, I find myself losing interest in engagement challenges, as I cannot compete with those involved in the 'comment war,' though I am still participating. As my friend Patjewell mentioned the other day, people seem to have forgotten the true purpose of engagement challenges...
P.S. I am still waiting for a response from the Steemit team regarding the issue of AI-generated comments on my post in the Steem Watcher community. Maybe they have something to say...
AI generated comments are not good...
Good to read you stumble over the same issue as I am. I wrote about this scam a few weeks ago and I can't say I feel flattered to be commented with a part of my own text which happened more than once. Frequently the same people and they keep doing it and know it's not okay.
For many years I tried to be gma great commenter, alreasy before the hardfork, but even if I invest 15 hours a day on reading and commenting I am never the number #1 and trust me my average comment is longer than what I read here plus it does not stop after one comment.
Like you I think these engagement challenges are pointless and I do not want my name shown on a list with fake commenters.
If I see one I ask how or what, if again I leave the warning picture and next I blog/mute them. If this behaviour is rewarded it's worth doing it.
Are there AI-generated comments? I learned something, now it makes sense.
A blessed day to you.
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This might interest you...
https://steemit.com/hive-192912/@waqarahmadshah/how-to-detect-ai-comments
I'll have a look, thanks.
If comments are meaningful and relevant it is good for people to comment on posts and comments that are not theirs.
It all helps to build a discussion and community.
But if the comments are not meaningful and relevant...
Saludos equipo detrás de Sc01, estamos viendo muchos problemas con respecto a los comentarios y a la interacción en los Engagement Challenge.
Acabamos de ver un grave problema en una comunidad que según ella dio un ganador que su publicación tenía mucha mas calidad que otros 90 participantes que realizaron un gran trabajo de interacción al comentar hasta 300 publicaciones mas que el ganador, entonces es esto justo?
Comentar 300 publicaciones no es algo fácil y que luego gane otro usuario que solo tiene 14 comentarios porque según su publicación es de mas calidad no tienes sentido.
Propongo que se le de peso a cada cosa, por ejemplo, para anunciar un ganador las comunidades deberían de asignar un peso en porcentaje a cada cosa asi:
Ajustar los ganadores a estos parámetros generaría mas confianza en los retos, mas confianza en las comunidades y en los ganadores que elijan.
Las injusticias están y eso esta causando un desinterés.
Espero mi propuesta sea evaluada, la estoy generando con mucho respeto y con la intensión de buscar una solución.
Les deseo un feliz, bonito y bendecido día.
Hola amigo, disculpa que me meta en tu comentario, pero creo que es es necesario acotar, que seria interesante preguntarse si esos comentarios son el producto de leer 300 publicaciones... Cuando las interacciones son reales, requieren tiempo, y a veces exclusividad, entonces es posible que el que dio 14 comentarios haya hecho comentarios significativos.
Creo que es necesario traer a la mesa el tema de que no todo se puede automatizar. No todo se puede medir en números, porque se sacrifica la calidad por la cantidad. Hacer esto último da como resultado la falta de sentido.
Es necesario hacer evaluaciones manuales, es cierto que las herramientas ayudan, y yo misma las utilizo, pero no podemos darle la tarea de pensar por nosotros, para determinar ganadores, etc...
Todavia es necesario que usemos nuestros cerebros, la esencia de Steemit se trata de que los mejores post (sean publicaciones o comentarios), pasen la prueba de cerebro.
Cuando hay problemas y dudas hay que volver al principio, a lo que se quería, porque eso es lo que señala el camino.
Lo coloco como ejemplo propio, yo me siento frente al computador, invierto mucho tiempo en leer las publicaciones y comentar, he estado en los reportes del amigo alejo de 7 mo y 8vo lugar en las últimas 3 semanas, se que hacerlo requiere muchísimo tiempo y trabajo, entonces luego anunciar como ganador a otro usuario que tiene menos comentarios es bajar el interés por seguir interactuando, si se continua anunciando como ganadores a usuarios con poca interacción, entonces te pregunto amiga inspiracion tendría sentido para un usuario leer 100 participaciones y comentarlas?
Creo que si esto sigue ocurriendo verán como la interacción caerá a los suelos.
Por eso colocar un porcentaje a cada uno garantiza lo contrario a lo que indicas, colocar un porcentaje no va a sacrificar la cantidad por la calidad, al contrario la incrementa, pues se supone que la calidad de una publicación es la que tendrá mas peso.
Osea los justo en este caso y es lo que estoy planteando es darle el valor justo y necesario que cada cosa merece, por lo tanto, la calidad tendrá el mayor valor pero la interacción también debe tener una valor, no podemos ignorar que comentar es un gran trabajo y también hace que el ecosistema crezca.
Gracias amiga por tu acotación, estas interacciones son muy buenas. Feliz y bendecido día.
Es que debería haber un equilibrio entre ambas actividades, entre el publicar un post y hacer comentarios. En tu caso haces comentarios luego de leer, la cuestión es que lo que esta pasando es que hay usuarios generando una cantidad inmensa de comentarios irrelevantes solo para cumplir la meta de llegar a esos primeros puestos de comentaristas. Mi intención no es subestimar la actividad de comentar, al contrario, sé que es muy valiosa, solo que estoy acotando que los seleccionadores de ganadores, deben revisar también la calidad de los comentarios y no solo mirar por encima las herramientas, ya que estas no pueden discernir esto último.
Tienes razón estas son buenas interacciones y sirven para poder llegar a comprender las situaciones.
Thank you,
I also think that you have to know how to comment... if someone responds to a publication by an author it is because a specific message is being letting known to that author. So if a third party responds to that message, it's a little strange.
If you want to support those people, they also have several active posts waiting for interaction
@steemcurator01 I agree with you sir.
Dear I did not have intention to generate more comments without meaning less. If you find my comments on others so you can read that it is meaningful and around topic and I just shared my thoughts. It is like conversation. If you think it is not good to talk others so I will not respond to other comments. I am not responding to every comments when I saw good comment so I just explore my thoughts with them.
@steemcurator01 please check my all comments. I responded on few comments just like exchange our thoughts and I have read before comment.
I am happy @alejos7ven that you mentioned me and noticed my work . If you think to respond and to talk on topic with other except owner is bad so I will not respond to others
Thanks 😊
Cuando veo este tipo de comentarios lo primero que viene a mi mente es que no son producto de una lectura de la publicación. Se supone que la interacción debería estar basada en la lectura de las publicaciones y las respuestas a las mismas (si han leído) debe ser algo que se desprende de esa lectura, una reflexión, un análisis, una conclusión que el autor deja en el aire...
Pero si nos detenemos a leer los comentarios que se producen en forma masiva todos tienen en común que son: genéricos, impersonales, irrelevantes. No añaden nada nuevo a lo expuesto.
En síntesis es muy fácil identificar este tipo de comentadores, ellos no leen las publicaciones.
Si encima solo van haciendo comentarios donde no hay una razón por la cual "aparecer" allí...
Creo que quienes pueden identificar a estos comentadores son los autores... Para ver si se puede dejar esa practica.