Minimum Wages - To be or not to be...

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Minimum wages are being hyped up now in society. Many people think this is all a win for everyone, especially those at the bottom of the ladder. But is it really all sunshine and rainbows?

The Reality and Problems

Extra Costs

The employer needs to pay more for each employee. Companies don't just keep all the profits as profits. There are costs to sustain and keep the company growing. This reduces the money the company uses to expand, hire more employees, research and development, maintenance, get new equipment, replace old equipment, etc. There are also stock dividends and bank fees and loans that often need to be paid.

Higher minimum wages mean channeling the money away from these aspects of the business. To keep these aspects going, reducing costs would be required, possibly to lay off employees. Spending within the company would stay the same, but output from employees working would decrease over time due to less employees being there, and the product or service in the market place would be reduced in quantity or quality, leading to less revenue. This can possibly lead to a downfall of the business.

Prices Go Up

When costs go up, from minimum wage increases, so too does the price of the product or service. For a customer, this reduces the demand because people will buy fewer products or services at a higher cost, compared to more at a lower cost. The employee who produces $10/hour and was paid to reflect that, but is now being paid more to produce the same $10/hour of the good or service for customers. This makes the business costs go up overall. Keeping someone employed that produces less than they are paid is a losing position for employers.

Skills Rewarded

No matter your skill level, now you get a minimum amount of money for your lower skills. Cost of labor increases for the employer, as explained above. When costs of employment get too high, these lower skilled workers are the first to get axed to reduce costs.

Their increased minimum wage ends up having them lose their jobs because they are the least productive or least skilled compared to people who know more or do more and already are paid to reflect that.

When the wages go up, the job is in more demand and attracts more applicants with higher skill levels. Those who are most disadvantaged and need a job, will be the most affected through not being able to compete int he job market.

The lower end placement in the business normally allows them to learn skills to progress upwards, but now they can't, because more skilled people are getting the jobs first. This knowledge of skills they would have gained if they started at the "bottom", would help them in the future, not only at this company, but from getting into other companies.

Also, many companies use their revenue to reinvest in employees by helping to train them. When costs increase due to minimum wages, this potential avenue of support to help people increase their skills also evaporates.

The only avenue they have, with no money to pay for education, is to offer their labor for free as interns in order to gain the skills they would have gained as lower paid employees, or to forgo trying to get into a particular business at all.

Minimum wages keep the unemployed unemployable by preventing them from gaining the work experience that would help them succeed.

Giving More than the Minimum to Help the Company Succeed

Most people agree to work for a wage, and also do more than the minimum required by contract to help the company succeed. In return they have the possibility of being recognized and gain more income, but also gain more value and respect within the company. These expectations are good incentives for people to do more than is requested from them.

When minimum wages are implemented, many employees may see a reduction in their wages to compensate for the extra cost the employer incurs. This deincentivises them to give more to company because they are getting less in return. They have been devalued. They can reasonably assume that their future stake of value in the company may also be affected.

Most Employers Pay Above Current Minimum Wage

Employers pay some people at minimum wage, depending on their skills, and especially when they join the business. As time goes by, they become more trusted and valued and usually make more money. Not only are the increased costs preventing people from having their wages increased voluntarily by the employer, but when they lose their jobs due to increased costs that are enforced by a centralized coercive government, they will have a much harder time to find another job at their low skill level.

You Actually Have a Job, Rather than No Job

Having a low paying job, that you choose to agree to work for and receive money to sustain your life, is better than having no job at all. If someone wants to take a job then they can. Coerced minimum wages remove this possibility for many who need to start at a lower rung and work their way up.

Automation

All of these factors come into play with the advancement of robotic automation. Why pay someone a forced minimum wage that affects your costs overall for the year and affects your businesses survival, when you can put a robotic system to work for a fraction of the cost and enhance the success of your business? True, at first the cost may be higher than paying someone a weekly wage, but in the long run, the company would save money.

Minimum wages increasing costs will incentive employers to replace human employees, helping to train them, etc., with robotic system investment that will pay off in the long run. When an employer needs to choose between ensuring the future of their business and ensuring their own success and survival, or helping another human remain employed minimum wages increased expenses, they will choose themselves and their business.

Conclusion

Those who promote minimum wage hikes assume all employers make enough money to cover these costs while still making a profit or breaking even. Small business can't usually afford to maintain coerced wage hikes, while also affecting their loss of business from hiking costs to the customer and losing business as a result.

Those who promote minimum wages also ignore the moral relevance. In the end, minimum wage coercion is immoral not only because it's coercion, but because it affects the economic survivability of many people's lives. Yes, there are some fat-cat mega-corps who reap the profits from the labor of their employees and should increase the wages of those who make the company a success. But enforcing minimum wages for everyone is damaging for the economy as a whole, and even forcing these larger corporations to do so isn't a moral thing in itself.


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Author: Kris Nelson / @krnel
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Date: 2016-09-24, 8:55am EST

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great post, I lived in hong kong for awhile and they have no minimum wage there. I believe they are ranked number 1 in economic freedom. The benefits from this were that I could eat at restaurants and buy things from certain vendors at incredibly low prices but still good quality for the most part. but if you wanted to and can afford it there are restaurants and shops that are high end. People get paid what they are worth to society there just how it should be and it allows for more people to enter into the market.

Yup, free markets work well. Socialists and communists and lefties don't get it. They all cry "fairness" and whatever nonsense because they want to control things and not let cause and effect reign over reality.

exactly, Also hk is a great place to start a business. Hong Kong and Singapore both. Hong Kong has a straightforward tax system.The company pays 16.5% of taxes on any profit generated in Hong Kong and nothing else. So if your company imports cellphones from China and sells them to European retailers or through a U.S. based e-commerce site, the company pays no taxes, as the income was generated outside Hong Kong. However if you are a US citizen like me you'd still have to pay taxes to the us government even if you based your internet site in hong kong as well. This is also a good way to show people that we are slaves. I just tell them that if you work and live overseas and don't spend any money in the US or earn any money in the US you still are supposed to pay taxes on what you earned while working and living overseas.

I disagree in general. A lot of the arguments that you offer against a minimum wage are the very ones that employers offer when it's suggested. Mainly to avoid losing any profits. The average company make profit. If they don't they don't last long. They will do and say anything to protect their profit. Importantly profit is what is left after loans are repaid, r&d is done and maintenance costs. Profit is the money that is paid out to investors and shareholders to do with as they please.

People have a right to earn enough to live on. Employers will pay add little as they can get away with.

But, please don't be offended by my differing view after all if we all thought the same then the world would be a dull place!

Thanks for the feedback. But you have to employ fundamentals of understanding freedom and morality in order to understand the points objectively.

Using coercive governmental authoritarian control over our lives is not valid. Just because things are not "fair" is not a reason to engage in immoral conduct to try to correct it. I even mention that just because some big corps reap profits at the expense of employees, doesn't justify using immoral methodologies to force them to be more fair, and how it also hurts small businesses. People have the right to agree to work to be paid. They have freedom of choice. They agree to contracts. You seem to miss the whole point of the post. Especially how having a job is better than not having a job, no matter how little it provides you with an income, it's your choice to work or not and not survive.

Thing's aren't fair. We can correct things fairly if fair people create businesses and people go work for them, making their business a larger success, rather than working for the unfair employers. It's still freedom. I like cooperatives. It's up to us to fix our way of life by making alternatives that outcompete the unfair ways of life. But not use immoral justifications to make things "fair". The ends don't justify the means. The means are the end. Just because greedy selfish people use these points to continue to do what they do, doesn't negate or invalidate their validity and truth.

So what are you suggesting @meesterboom ? That a third party get involved in the agreement between two people and FORCE the company to pay the worker more, even though he/she may not be deserving of it? A company (no matter what company) should be free to pay what they want to pay. And the worker should be free to agree to whatever wage is offered. To force a person to pay what he doesn't want to pay is immoral. Curious to hear your thoughts.

Well there are two issues there. I am firmly of the opinion that if a person is not deserving of the wage that they are paid then they should be let go. Work is not charity, I am no bleeding heart in that respect. On the other hand I do believe that a company should pay a wage that it is reasonable that someone should be able to live on. If you let them they will happily pay peanuts and often way less than a particular job may be worth. I say this because i live in a country that implemented such a thing and it has worked well for pulling people out of poverty. If people want to work then surely it is only right that there is some kind of minimum that is deemed proper? In fact in my country we are now taking about implementing a "living" wage which goes beyond the minimum wage.

It's controversial certainly but in my view and I am not trying to force that view on anyone we shouldn't pretend that companies care for anything other than their bottom line. Why not force them? Poverty affects us all in different ways, even if you have a high paid job the impact of poverty on society impacts you. It may be seen as immoral to force a company to pay more than they want to but isn't it immoral to pay someone so little that they have to work 2 maybe 3 jobs? Some people, again through poverty do not have the options that some of us do. Anyway, I apologise, I am starting to sound like some kind of hippy which I blame firmly on the whisky. :0)

@krnel - 100% agree. Great article, decided to follow you

Maybe from a bit different angel, I work in a finance world and see how the majority companies in the UK after the minimum wage hike started big headcount reductions because they need to show profits. They also started passing these increased costs on to customers.

Clearly, with all these minimum wages you can not overcome poverty that now exists. In fact, I think that we are now very close to the 2nd Great Depression which will start in 2017. Tried to explain why in my article I just published today

https://steemit.com/money/@conspi-theorist/why-global-crisis-is-inevitable-part-4-finale-the-2nd-great-depression-will-start-in-2017

Thanks for the feedback. I have already upvoted you a few hours ago. Good summary of the issues. Peace.

Maybe the system just needs to be redesigned...

How dare you advocate for free markets @krnel !! Of all the gall for you to suggest voluntary interaction between two individuals! The only reason I'm here reading this article is because a third party came to my door, drew a gun, made me log onto my computer, pull up your article and hit the FOLLOW button. That's the ONLY reason...oh...and they MADE me upvote this post. And THAT, my friend, is the way the world SHOULD work!

Happy to follow ya man. Looking forward to more of your stuff. Thanks for your comment on my last article/video!

The confusing part of minimum wage is that in a capitalistic system and or free enterprise free market system you don't need minimum wages but we don't have that we have capital controls brought to you by the plunge protection team and exchange stabilization fund. Here is my blog on topic and we need to go full on socialism to take these current crooks down and then bring back true free markets: https://steemit.com/intro/@greenman/part-4-trust-who-do-you-trust-do-you-trust-your-local-city-council-provincial-or-national-gov-t-do-you-trust-the-global-world

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