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RE: Voluntaryism is NOT Pacifism

in #voluntaryism8 years ago

It is not pacifism but it should strive to be pacifism and should only use force when absolutely necessary, in self-defense.

There is no need to use excessive force, even for self defense, sometimes it's enough if you talk through the situation, and in confrontations, its enough if you disarm the agressor, there is no need to agress further.

For example shooting the agressor in the foot once is pretty deterring, there is no need to use lethal force.

If we have good manners and way to de-escalate conflict then violence will almost never be necessary.

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I appreciate your optimism. I'm personally not so sure that there will ever be a time when there's not someone willing to initiate lethal force, which makes me question whether there will ever be a time when the use of violence will never be necessary.

I didn't said it will never be necessary, what I said is that it will almost never be necessary. There will always be the case of lunatic agressor, but in a well civilized world the probability of encounter with such person will be very low. Every other conflict you might have will just have to be resolved in a civilized way. Sometimes by just walking away, there is no need to confront people for no reason.

I don't disagree, thanks for elaborating.

Well maybe in many thousands of years, after humanity maturizes and becomes more knowledge oriented and less instinct oriented.

But in our lifetimes the best we can do is to achieve a voluntary society where the use of defensive force can be used.

"It is not pacifism but it should strive to be pacifism and should only use force when absolutely necessary, in self-defense." I see where you are coming from, and to an extent I totally agree, but it isn't pacifism if you defend yourself. We need 1. Non-aggression principal and 2. (if necessary) the Self-defense principal.

Voluntary association should be the goal at all times. Voluntary association is ALWAYS preferable to violent coercion. Self-defense is not violent coercion though.

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