RE: Now that's off my mind
Science shows that vaccine induced "immunity" wears off. Science can now explain how and why children died from these vaccines and why they do not produce life time immunity. It seems to be a fantastic set up for corporate "medicine" to now understand that vaccinology can not produce the same results as getting the disease. Which means yearly shots for everyone!! If you are aware of the science, evolution, then you would understand that people evolved with the smallpox virus and it began to have less effects on the body. Matter of fact it was hard to determine whether some cases were chicken pox or smallpox at beginning of 1900. Considering the manufacturing facilities and transportation infrastructure was not in place to get the vaccine to the public at large...it is estimated that only 10% of the population received the vaccine. It was also known that people died from the vaccine. It is irresponsible to use a "belief" system to justify the practice of science. Discernment and science education is extremely important. If you study the history of small pox, there were other scientific studies being performed using quarantine that showed it was able to reduce smallpox quicker than those cities who chose the vaccine. I suppose you also believe genetically engineering these vaccines using combinations of bacterias and virus can trigger immunity? What parts of the immune response create long term ...meaning lifetime... immunity? Well, considering I conduct my own long term experiments involving this very aspect... I think you should prepare for a rude awakening. Regardless,... I come from 4 generations of no responders. No matter the vaccine...it doesn't produce a response. Including the smallpox vaccine given to my grandfather...even after several times. And when he and my grandma got polio...they did not even show symptoms. Just my aunt who was less than 3 years of age...they show immunity... me who was vaccinated does not. That is science...
Thank you for the response. I am a little confused by your conclusion - you have been vaccinated for smallpox but have no immunity? I think I must be misreading you because I doubt you have been vaccinated for smallpox.
My daughter was given the MMR vaccine yet still contracted a mild form of measles. I am aware that it is not a perfect solution which simply underlines how fragile the concept of herd immunity is.
I was vaccinated for polio and show no immunity. My grandparents who contracted polio show that they have immunity. The concept of herd immunity using vaccination can not happen. Vaccines do not produce the same results as getting the virus naturally, which produces lifetime immunity (at statistically higher percentages). My grandma still shows titers for pertussis at age of 85 (she had the whooping cough at age 10)...but according to the media, the Dtap vaccine wears off and the need to get boosters is essential. Funny, that these same doctors don't check titers to verify their statements. Since everyone produces a different immune response titer level...which can range anywhere from .5/ml to 15.00/ml (antibodies) and there is no science that can confirm what titer response equates to lifetime immunity...or determine any real protection....means it is statistically impossible to mimic "herd immunity"...as the 1929 study, which ironically determined the population needed to have 67% of the herd with lifetime immunity for "herd" protection. No or low-responders can still get the disease...so you will always have loopholes. If the solution is not perfect...then you can not force people to take something..especially if it won't work on them. My measles (yes I was vaccinated in the 70's) was not mild nor was it life threatening. Thank you for your response.
http://www.immune.org.nz/vaccines/efficiency-effectiveness There is science around how long they ask. I'm surprised you have been quite so ready to leap to "no science" as an option. Yes it is a statistics game and again we know the numbers and know what levels are required to maintain a herd immunity, which helps people like yourself by making the spread of the contagion much more difficult. This is pretty basic stuff, we know it works, we have proven it and we prove it time and time again.
I appreciate that things are odd in the USA due to the way medicine and health has been commercialised, but trust me it is dirt cheap in Europe and we have none of the problems you allude to.
No need to protect me or my family.. our genetic line shows no issue with any of the diseases. According to the US's CDC people start to show waning titers at 22 days, especially to the measles.... so with that variance...it is statistically impossible to produce "herd" immunity in a population. Regardless, excited about this format because I join to publish science. I have experimented on various different species with vaccines...long term studies, short term...and even purposely exposed the "herd" (of goats actually) to an ill animal. I have also found contaminants...ect. Excited to share the results and my documented evidence. So enjoy the ride!!!