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RE: Now that's off my mind
Thank you for the response. I am a little confused by your conclusion - you have been vaccinated for smallpox but have no immunity? I think I must be misreading you because I doubt you have been vaccinated for smallpox.
My daughter was given the MMR vaccine yet still contracted a mild form of measles. I am aware that it is not a perfect solution which simply underlines how fragile the concept of herd immunity is.
I was vaccinated for polio and show no immunity. My grandparents who contracted polio show that they have immunity. The concept of herd immunity using vaccination can not happen. Vaccines do not produce the same results as getting the virus naturally, which produces lifetime immunity (at statistically higher percentages). My grandma still shows titers for pertussis at age of 85 (she had the whooping cough at age 10)...but according to the media, the Dtap vaccine wears off and the need to get boosters is essential. Funny, that these same doctors don't check titers to verify their statements. Since everyone produces a different immune response titer level...which can range anywhere from .5/ml to 15.00/ml (antibodies) and there is no science that can confirm what titer response equates to lifetime immunity...or determine any real protection....means it is statistically impossible to mimic "herd immunity"...as the 1929 study, which ironically determined the population needed to have 67% of the herd with lifetime immunity for "herd" protection. No or low-responders can still get the disease...so you will always have loopholes. If the solution is not perfect...then you can not force people to take something..especially if it won't work on them. My measles (yes I was vaccinated in the 70's) was not mild nor was it life threatening. Thank you for your response.
http://www.immune.org.nz/vaccines/efficiency-effectiveness There is science around how long they ask. I'm surprised you have been quite so ready to leap to "no science" as an option. Yes it is a statistics game and again we know the numbers and know what levels are required to maintain a herd immunity, which helps people like yourself by making the spread of the contagion much more difficult. This is pretty basic stuff, we know it works, we have proven it and we prove it time and time again.
I appreciate that things are odd in the USA due to the way medicine and health has been commercialised, but trust me it is dirt cheap in Europe and we have none of the problems you allude to.
No need to protect me or my family.. our genetic line shows no issue with any of the diseases. According to the US's CDC people start to show waning titers at 22 days, especially to the measles.... so with that variance...it is statistically impossible to produce "herd" immunity in a population. Regardless, excited about this format because I join to publish science. I have experimented on various different species with vaccines...long term studies, short term...and even purposely exposed the "herd" (of goats actually) to an ill animal. I have also found contaminants...ect. Excited to share the results and my documented evidence. So enjoy the ride!!!