HPV Vaccine Risks/Damage in Japan: Don’t be a Bigot. Let’s Have a Conversation.
Amazingly, a simple and open conversation is not something many I know are capable of having,
even in my small circle of acquaintances here in Niigata, Japan. I have reached out, attempted to lay out my position clearly and professionally (I am not “anti-modern-medicine,” for example, but just think more research/study/testing is warranted in the area of vaccine safety), and been open to being completely corrected and refuted, to face what can only be correctly labeled as bigotry.
bigotry
[big-uh-tree]
- stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
- the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.
An individual I know here in Niigata recent posted a link to this article on Facebook:
What strikes me as odd is calling the request for further objective and disinterested research “misinformation,”
after myriad individuals have imilar, life-threatening and fatal episodes in the wake of the same vaccine. Namely, the Gardasil and Cerverix HPV vaccines.
I quote from the article:
reports of immunised children experiencing pain, walking problems, seizures and other neurological issues. Some parents posted videos of their children online, claiming their symptoms were caused by the HPV jab. Despite its own health ministry finding no evidence that the vaccine was to blame, the Japanese government suspended proactive recommendations for the jab in 2013.
”DESPITE ITS OWN HEALTH MINISTRY FINDING NO EVIDENCE...
(Shouldn’t this stuff be investigated by an objective and disinterested third party? )
The Japanese government committee to review vaccine reactions has concluded that the symptoms are probably psychosomatic.
”PSYCHOSOMATIC”?
Sure, this looks pretty “psychosomatic,” to me:
My fists are literally clenched as I watch this. The bigots will likely cite the anger as proof that am not being “scientific.” Let them. This shit is disgusting.
Degree of Accountability: the difference between the Japanese and American legal system, regarding medicine.
So, this Japanese doctor, Riko Muranaka, is upset that TV news outlets and other media reported thousands of cases of possible serious adverse reactions to HPV vaccines. Weird. Why not just follow up on these reports with more research and investigation, instead of fighting against the dissemination of information? Not very scientific is it?
Muranaka seems convinced (and she may be correct, how would we know without further study?) that these massive adverse events have nothing to do with the vaccine. She is angry that the Japanese government would remove the official recommendation for HPV vaccination. Why?
Well, for one thing, the Japanese government is still held somewhat responsible for its actions in some areas. Unlike in the US, where vaccine makers literally cannot be held legally liable for damages (very “pro-science” way to do things, no?), in Japan, policy makers can be severely punished.
You see, under Japanese law bureaucrats found to have neglected their duty to inform medical consumers of serious risks involved with taking medicines, vaccines and other medical products can be prosecuted and severely punished.
What about scientific studies?
They exist, and people with great minds and expert training in medical research are trying, but for those of you who know anything about the state and its pet corporations, dissent is often simply “discredited” by being removed, redacted, or hit by a massive smear campaign in the media (see the case of Doctor Andrew Wakefield, and the millions who have never read his groundbreaking study on Autism and mitochondrial dysfunction, talking about how it has been “DEBUNKED!”).
When former editors-in-chief of some the most prestigious medical journals in the world tell us we cannot believe half the research published in said journals due to massive conflicts of interest and government influence, what are we left with?
Well, a sea of “discredited” studies attacked by the unaware/bigoted, foaming at the mouth with their own version of a “Google degree” acquired via a feverish 5-minute copy/pasta session on “Skeptical Raptor.”
What kinds of conflicts of interest could there be? Why not let the Japanese government conduct its own internal studies?
Merck, as of today, has a market cap of $166 billion. In 2016, the company had $39.8 billion in revenues, of which $2.7 billion was from Japan, their fourth-largest market. Of the hundreds of products and brands that Merck markets, only ten have more than $1 billion in annual revenues, and Gardasil is one of those, with total annual revenues of just over $2 billion. Said differently, Gardasil matters to Merck in a very, very big way.
**Not a factor at all, right? Governments don’t placate mega-powerful lobbyists. Money doesn’t influence things like medicine. Riiiight. I have some ocean front property in Iowa for sale if you’re interested, too...
For those willing to see the forest for the trees (not for the bigots), here are a few studies and resources to look into.
First, this letter from a prominent Japanese medical watchdog group to the World Health Organization. The data they’ve aggregated on rates of reported adverse events for HPV vaccines as compared to other vaccines is mind-blowing.
This study concluding that further research is urgently needed
This study dealing with HPV vaccination and potential CNS damage.
I want to leave you with this thought, though, as I am sure someone will cruise over to “Skeptical Raptor,” copy/paste a bunch of stuff, and tell me what an idiot I am.
These young women have lives. In many cases, their lives are ruined, or ended.
I know of women here in my city who are convinced that their current disabilities are a result of HPV vaccination. Will you look them in the face and tell them they are “nutjobs,” “liars,” or “loonies”?
Look at this lying bitch in her “psychosomatic” wheelchair.
If you would do such a thing, without at least being open to a conversation and hearing their story, then you are a bigot, and science is something as far from you as the sun is from the earth.
~KafkA
Graham Smith is a Voluntaryist activist, creator, and peaceful parent residing in Niigata City, Japan. Graham runs the "Voluntary Japan" online initiative with a presence here on Steem, as well as Facebook and Twitter. (Hit me up so I can stop talking about myself in the third person!)
Sadly ' Big Pharma' have corrupted the political systems in many countries especially the US and UK with campaign contributions and in many cases having their minions move in and out of politics. This has afforded them a unique position with a hand in mandating medical policies and a get out of jail free card.
This is medical fascism!
When corporations merge with the government this is what you get, we have it all over the west with big corporations strong arming the politicians after putting them in place by funding their individual campaigns or parties.
The individuals being damaged by mandated vaccine programs will never get their day in court if this shit is allowed to continue. I'm not anti-vax per se, I just believe that if governments weren't owned by these bastard corporations they would have to do more research and trials prior to bringing a vaccine to market ensuring better results and minimising injuries. Forcing vaccinations upon people is an insipid factor that is getting out of control in some places, just look at California for example. I've lost count of the amount of mandated vaccines kids now have forced upon them in the schools.
Allowing 'Big Pharma' to self regulate is beyond criminal also, why would they tell the truth about side effects when profit is the aim?
It's a disgrace and I'm sorry if I'm ranting but my nephew was ruined by the MMR vaccine. He was a happy, healthy kid prior to having it forced upon him. Almost immediately he changed. Now he has many problems including autism and Tourette's which devastated his family's lives as well as his own.
Wow man. I’m so sorry to hear about your nephew. I’ve talked to so many people now personally that have similar stories and it is at once heartbreaking and infuriating.
This is such a level-headed, rational, and sound, logical position that the vitriol and venomous screeches of the scientism-worship camp emitted whenever said position is articulated is a dead giveaway something’s very wrong.
I taught a little girl here with severe developmental problems, and the sad fact of the matter is that even though her mother told us it was vaccine-induced, there’s very little chance she’ll join an advocacy group or speak out about it, thanks to the culture and media smear campaigns.
It's a crying shame that people's opinions are lead by the media especially on a subject so important. If you follow the money you will no doubt find the same people profiting from the pharmaceutical companies as own the media that defend them.
A brilliantly balanced/nuanced perspective here @kafkanarchy84 and indeed bigotry certainly works both ways. Indeed anyone that replaces perhaps one of the most important conversations of our generation with mere anger and vitriol are doing both themselves and us a great dis-service! This is a coversation worth having and one that needs to be held away from the idealism of groupthink.
Indeed the vaccine proponents seem to have forgotten the name of Professor John Walker Smith, the man who co-authored Wakefields paper and indeed carried out some of the tests that showed a link between MMR and autism. Perhaps they forget his name because he won his court battle and had his name cleared by a high court judge and his professional misconduct findings quashed?
And now as more people begin to ask questions they seek to legislate against our free will and instead replace it with the evergrowing spectre of mandatory vaccination. This is indeed a conversation that needs to be had and it needs to be both a balanced and an adult one.
I'm in the UK and I often wonder whether our vaccinations are the same ones given to the Royal Family and indeed young Prince George? Indeed you can buy "clean" single shot vaccines from private clinics. Great work @kafkanarchy
Indeed it is. Thanks for your insightful comment. It really is a shame how many attempts are being made to obscure information which could potentially lead to such a substantive conversation.
Denialism is not the same as skepticism. You are engaging in denialism of science and vaccines. You are part of the problem.
The research indicates the HPV vaccine is safe, the data is what it is. Regardless of anyone's anecdotal assessment.
Denialism is not the same as skepticism. True.
As for the rest of your comment:
Claim. (non-substantiated)
Claim. (non-substantiated)
Claim. (non-substantiated).
You could have defended this claim by referencing studies or calling into question the data, methodologies, etc, of the studies/arguments referenced in this post.
You failed to do so.
Just because I didn't doesn't mean I can't.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21198715/
Your whole stance is unsubstantiated by the actual research. So your high horse has some short legs.
There are a plethora of publications one could dig into. The data just is what it is. No amount of anecdotal claims can change it either.
People say a lot of stuff. Most of it is probably true in their own minds, but not true in reality.
There’s no need to get offended here man, or to start throwing around insults about someone’s high horse.
If you feel like coming here and telling these girls that can’t move anymore they’re full of shit, be my guest.
And still, you’ve presented one study which does not refute my simple claim that more research in the area of HPV vaccine safety would be beneficial.
This is literally the most anti-science position anyone could take. I won’t be responding anymore, but thanks for reading.
Lol, you started with the insult buddy. Not me :) again you don't have legs to stand on. You even edited your comment to remove it, which is all the more damning that you know what you did.
I'm not the one emotionally invested here. It's clear based on your replies that you however are very much so.
Then you follow with projection about me having an anti science position. No amount of research can ever suffice on vaccines and that is the issue. People will keep chasing ghosts.
I would gladly tell the people that they are wrong, no problem with it at all.
I'm not saying they dont have health issues, just that those issues are seemingly derived from something else. What that is, I don't know.
For anyone reading this, he’s correct. I did, in my initial response, say “you sound like a fool.”
This was after being told, laughably, from this user’s very first comment, in exactly the sense of bigotry this post addresses, “you are part of the problem.”
I see that as a personal insult, but it’s really not a big deal, and typical of this type of comment.
Anyway, that’s that, for what it’s worth, to those reading this.
Nope, it's not an insult. I am a part of the problem on many issues. That just is just my opinion and assessment of your stance.
I agree. I find it odd you admit it, but your febrile effort to prevent independent and careful study of the issue is exactly what you say it is: part of the problem.
Most of the problem isn't shills like you, agitating against rational science, and for covering up the many injuries caused by unaccountable profiteers pushing toxic swill into the veins of innocent, beloved chidren, it's the corruption and venal profiteering itself.
Did you ever spend anytime researching the publisher and institution of your link above? There are many hands in the kiddy. Don't you think big Pharma has influence over these institutions and their findings? Hard to keep receiving that grant money if the findings counter the hand that feeds them. It is one big machine which turns the other cheek ever so slightly down through the system until it snowballs into a real life threatening situation for the masses. I would look into them a little closer before posting a link to a study which may or may not be entirely ethical or accurate. I think @kafkanarchy84 is just simply making the point that we need to seriously hold accountable even the highest authorities.
No
Just because you are paranoid, doesn't make your paranoia true. Do you have any proof? No? Okay then. Let me know when there is any.
Wow, no more conversation with you. As per the topic of this post. Let's just have a conversation. Proof of what? I asked you some simple questions. You respond by saying I'm paranoid. This is an immature and defensive position even feels combative via this platform. I never claimed to have any proof of anything. To clarify my position, we shouldn't trust any information anywhere anymore in this world unless we are experts and did the research ourselves. The truth doesn't matter any more. People just want to survive. The value systems of common individuals have been destroyed. The researcher who may value their entire life's work; or let's just say they have a family; dependent upon that grant money so that they can advance their career or put food on the table may just turn the other way for the sake of self preservation. The stakes are too high and very few individuals are going to do the right thing when it comes before basic self preservation. That means it is up to us to question everything. It doesn't lend a hand at all to delusions of paranoia. This platform of Steemit is a perfect tool for people to have intelligent conversations and crowd source the truth. Don't get upset when someone challenges your position. You should first question yourself and then challenge yourself to grow. Good for you if you don't think big Pharma has any influence. You can choose to go on living with the blinders on. In the real world, the people who sit on the board of directors for these institutions tend to have worked for the major corporations which stand to profit from selling you the lie that these things are safe. Many of them have vested interests through stocks, profit sharing. etc. Clear conflicts of interest. Many of them have even served in political positions and with lawmaking authority. Big Pharma is one of the largest lobbyist groups in the U.S.A. I am pretty sure they spent a dollar or two getting their influence over any votes. I hope you have a nice day...
You are the one who is upset not me. Whether or not pharma lobbies the gvt (they do) has no bearing on the validity of information in scholastic publications. You are accusing the data of being fabricated and to that I suggest you are paranoid.
Seriously, how old are you? Do you have no social skills?
I'm kind of sitting with @justtryme90 on this in so far as you have used "claim . (non-substantiated)" as a response around the research, yet that is what is being called for. I read the Guardian article as well,and the girls seem legitimately ill (which is very sad and unfortunate for anyone to be afflicted with any debilitating illness), however, the link to the cause being the vaccine is a "claim. (non-substantiated)".
If the call is for more research around the vaccine, and neither the government or the researchers can be trusted then who's going to do the research?
As for Wakefield, no one could reproduce his data, it's one of the tenants of research. Reproducibility.
Science journals are still under pressure and have suffered from increased retractions as the pace of information and the increase in the amount of information has grown. It's not an excuse for shitty and obtuse or compromised research methodology.
Reproducibility and 3rd party peer review and substantiation is the only way I see to trust research data.
Is that what you are calling for?
I’m not sure I said the issue has been solved, one way or the other. I called for more research, as do many other studies, and many medical professionals, regarding the HPV vaccine. Your claim that I made such a claim is incorrect. If I did, please show me where.
Well. Objective, disinterested third parties are the only way legitimate scientific research is done.
As you say:
Yes, that is what I am calling for. It’s also already being done, but is largely ignored.
What is interesting to me is that a self-proclaimed research scientist like @justtryme90’s first reaction to my post is not to examine the data and/or studies I’ve linked to, but to boldly proclaim that I am in denial and “part of the problem.”
This is a big red flag. Research is done a certain way, and making broad claims as he has done calls into question, for me, the real depth of his understanding of science and the scientific method.
I appreciate your comment, @jasonbu. Thanks.
Yup, I just want to see that the tables are evenely stacked and that the call for substantiation comes from both sides. I'll leave it at that. I did go back through your post and you are correct you never said anything linking the illness to vaccines (I stand corrected).
It's sad that it does not hang people who endanger human lives, not in Japan, but everywhere in the world. I did not give my son the vaccine. I and my wife are dealing with over 20 years with alternative medicine, pharmacy is the biggest mafia in the world. There are also good things in modern medicine, a bad pile of the interests of powerful drug companies.
Yes, I agree with you 100%, @dobartim.
It is the biggest mafia in the world.
Technology in medicine could advance 1,000 fold without the state hampering innovation and research, and synthetically controlling prices/markets.
That's the way a friend is, so we have to fight against political stinkers and laughing human companies
Great post as always. Most people won't acknowledge until it hits closest to home. My wife and I have close friends who allowed their teenage daughter to get vaccinated because some doctor told them it would decrease the chances of her contracting cervical cancer. They have no family history of it by the way. Within 24 hours she was in the hospital in a deep coma. Here was a bright intelligent healthy young lady suddenly fighting for her life. Six months later she recovered and was able to start life again. She has suffered now for several years trying to live a normal life again. It may or may not happen. She has good days and bad ones. On bad ones she has fatigue, depression, and a serious case of the yucks. I ask, how can this just suddenly happen to a perfectly happy and healthy young lady? People need to open their eyes and start figuring out what is going on. Hasn't anyone learned yet that corruption lives in every facet of human existence. Nothing is sacred and we must continually question the information which is being presented before us.
This is what I am wondering as well. I’m so sorry to hear about your freinds’ daughter. Wishing her a full and complete recovery.
What strikes me as amusing as how folks will say “It’s all anecdotal!” Well, yeah, everything is anecdotal at first! That’s why more research is warranted! People are saying they are suffering. Let’s take every measure we can to find out why!
The worst is that these medical m************ are protected by everything, no accountability for f****** your ass up . They are allowed to do whatever the f*** they can and if it goes wrong no one will face court. If you f****** someone's life like that with your s*** ass vaccine aka medicine, your s***** ass at least you would be held accountable for the damage it causes. This s*** is hard to watch, that's why I have no good word for it. If it was my daughter, I think I would put the f****** bullet in the dude who gave my daughter the vaccine, unacceptable.
Great post, I hear you on this. Just bringing up the topic of vaccines for some people sends them into fight mode. You can give them all the information, the ingredients and still they get all defensive. We can only protect our own, my 3 girls have none. But we can share what we know and hopefully reach a few, who can then make informed decisions.Thanks for the great post.
Thanks, @trucklife-family.
Nice article!
It amazes me that even with all the known risks and many deaths and health issues that have resulted from this vaccine, they continue to push it! I dont know about Japan, but here in the US they are pushing it, not only on young ladies, but boys as well!
It is, in my opinion, insanity...
Thank you, @squishysquid.
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