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RE: Multiple vaccine debates concluded swiftly & unequivocally

in #vaccine7 years ago

Hi Charles, I'm afraid hope is not a rational strategy and it doesn't do any good for anyone, least of all those who become the human collateral damage. When you say vaccines have saved many people, at what cost and what percentage genuinely saved? You assume a degree of efficacy that is not born out by the efficacy of western vaccines. Booster, booster, booster, booster, shedding, infectious diseases in vaccinated populations etc etc. There are more effective means of reducing disease in the developing world that do not require intolerable sacrifices for a growing proportion of the population.... but those solutions would require a total rewiring of global priorities. When you say we cannot heal ourselves and communities with natural remedies, are you saying people do not have their own immune systems, cannot improve the effectiveness of their immune systems naturally and can't fight any infectious diseases for themselves? If so, I'm surprised because it seems self-evident that they can. In countries where there is a lack of sanitation, basic hygiene, poor nutrition, adverse climatic conditions and other severe impacts on whole body health and immune system integrity there is undoubtedly a greater susceptibility to infectious diseases. Is vaccination the best and only answer to improving outcomes? No. Perhaps they are the most profitable and easier to implement politically...but they come with a severe cost....as we are all finding out.

If a vaccine for a serious disease could be manufactured without these potentially horrendous and unresearched risks, that would be superb....but will never happen with unaccountable manufacturers and an uninformed population. Thank you for raising an alternative point of view to mine, I think courteous debate is really healthy and whilst I disagree with some of your points, I certainly don't have all the answers but I know the problems with vaccines today must be confronted. This is a terrifyingly complex problem and most people are simply trying to do their best. All the best bud.

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I understand your concern and agree with your view point. However in reality, what will you do against the epidemic of polio , yellow fever , chicken pox et al which vaccnes have helped to redice and control the epidemic however with some health costs / side effects to some people. I am a supporter of using natural remedies and sustainable hygiene as solution to all health issues however we all know that the big pharmas plus their dogs (governments) will kick against such due to low gains in taxation and lobbying money. On the other hand, a prudent combination of western and traditional natural medicines ie both working together , will yield more positive fruits.

I am afraid you are misinformed about polio, yellow fever and chicken pox vaccines my good friend.
The only things that will help bring the first two under control is changes in sanitation and hygiene.
A group of medical doctors in India have taken out full page advertisements in the major newspapers begging the foundations to immediately cease the polio vaccine programs, as they are doing tremendous amounts of harm.

Chicken pox, is an almost harmless disease in healthy children, and we are starting to understand that having passed through it allows the proper development of the immune system, and along with normal exposures throughout life, provides 100% effective protection against both chicken pox and shingles.
Shingles is a disease, that unlike Chicken Pox, regularly maims and kills.
(of course a vaccine against shingles has now been developed)

Now, for the costs of the interventions favoured by the large supposedly humanitarian foundations, real change could be made to communities throughout the third world, in sanitation and clean water and food, resulting in permanent improvements in life expectancy and infant mortality.

Good point @spaingaroo I agree with you that cleanliness helps prevent and eradicate disease and only wish that the underdeveloped and developing world will do a better job in that regards.
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