Multiple vaccine debates concluded swiftly & unequivocally

in #vaccine7 years ago (edited)

Are vaccines safe for everybody?

No - manufacture product package insert, the injured and dead people.

Are all individuals assessed for vaccine damage susceptibility?

No - every child is not genetically tested, does not have a total condition assessment and complete medical history conducted before receiving a vaccination.

Do vaccines cause an array of harmful effects including death?

Yes - manufacture product package insert, the injured and dead people.

Are all the harmful effects of vaccines visible & known?

No - ZERO long term studies.

Are vaccines safe for anybody?

Unknown - ZERO long term studies.

Has enough research been conducted on vaccine safety?

No - ZERO long term control studies. ZERO long term studies of the rapidly changing net effect of the interactions of all the different pathogens and toxins that make up the vaccine schedule.

Are vaccines manufactured to be as safe as they can be?

No - research is expensive and revealing. The manufacturing has considerations like, shelf-life, "efficacy" (by their narrow standards,) the amount of future product to be injected and profitability of the product.

Has Glyphosate (a probable human carcinogenic contaminant) been found in vaccines?

Yes - Glyphosate is a water soluble toxin which is rapidly becoming ubiquitous in the environment. It's in the air, the water, the food and now, the vaccines......surprise!

Do conflicts of interest surround the research, manufacture and regulation of vaccines?

Yes - regulators getting jobs at the companies they were regulating, data manipulation of research, bundles of money involved, politicians and law-makers invested in the manufacturers.......

Have vaccine manufacturers been caught manipulating research data relating to vaccine product safety?

Yes - there's is a growing laundry list of examples, William Thompson of the CDC being one of the latest.

Is it possible to hold vaccine manufacturers to account for faulty vaccine product that causes harm by suing them?

No - changes to the law prevent vaccine manufacturers from being sued for the harm their faulty products cause.

Do governments pay compensation to people harmed by vaccines?

Yes - lots but nowhere near enough.

Should people have a choice over whether or not to have a medical intervention for themselves or their children?

Yes - If you don't have freedom over self, then who is your owner? The state and by extension (lobbied corruption) some psychopathic CEO.

Is it possible to be healthy and resist disease without using vaccines?

Yes - ask healthy human beings since the advent of humanity.

Is it possible to be healthier and more resistant to disease without using vaccines?

Yes - ask the dead vaccine injured person.

Is it possible there are other reasons for the decline in some infectious diseases around the advent of vaccine use?

Yes - sanitation, diet......among others.

Is the resurgence of certain infectious disease potentially attributable to the vaccines themselves?

Yes - vaccine attenuated atypical strain shedding, people with vaccine damaged immune systems.....


If even one of these statements and answers are true.......and I believe they all are, then that is enough to question the entire approach to vaccines from regulation to manufacture to use. Not to do so would be a crime against humanity. To blindly allow corruption to force feed us fear and lies for the sake of profit and stock value (and perhaps other more degenerate purposes) whilst turning our back on the millions of people affected by bogus science, nefarious agendas and propaganda is unconscionable.

If we share the goal to improve people's health, everyone's health, then let's do that......the best way we can....by looking at whole body health, the environment in which it lives and the distribution of resource and knowledge.

Isn't a better way to achieve health perhaps to stop using toxic chemicals, to stop releasing toxins into our environment, to stop eating, inhaling, drinking and injecting toxins into our bodies and to bring back integrity to scientific research? The costs for human hubris are mounting up.....and they are already intolerable.

Whatever your point of view, surely there is one thing everyone can agree upon....relative to vaccines, we have drifted very far from the the original discovery.......catch one wild, natural and relatively harmless pathogen (cow pox) and develop partial or complete immunity to a more serious pathogen (small pox.) Naturally acquired resistance. An opportunity for a enduring strengthening of health provided by nature through infection. No toxins, no strain manipulation, no invasive and unnatural infection method, no forced intervention, no multiple doses, no mixture of pathogens delivered simultaneously. The idea of a vaccine was to do no harm but bring benefits. There would be no need to ever force someone to do something which only, demonstrably caused them a benefit. The harm of vaccines today is everywhere and is it any wonder? Perhaps vaccines could become more like they were supposed to be, with more accountability, transparency, less consideration to cost, better research.......sadly, trust takes moments to destroy and a lifetime to earn. Does anyone who read this far trust the pharmaceutical companies or the bodies that regulate them? Will you ever trust them again?


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My wife was pregnant with our son during the swine flu outbreak of 09 and a guy at work warned me about squalene in the flu vaccine and told me not to allow her to get it that it could harm our child. That starting me into doing research on vaccines. I had not come to any solid conclusions by the time he was born and under General peer pressure we decided to start vaccinating him. It seemed like he was sick a lot with earaches and ear infections and he was talking at 5 months saying mama and dada and I love you and then after his 6 month shots he stopped talking and he had a double ear infection. My wife took him to a doctor at a small-town walk-in clinic and thankfully that doctor had the courage to tell us that the vaccines were causing our son to be sick like this and that we needed to stop vaccinating him. The doctor even said I'm not supposed to tell you this and if you ever tell anybody I said this I will deny that I said it, but you need to stop vaccinating your son. We stopped immediately. Thankfully there was no permanent damage and at 7 months old having never crawled yet he took his first steps, he walked before he crawled. Today he is almost 8 years old and he is one of the smartest and strongest a little boys you will ever meet. I'm thankful that doctor had the courage to say something to us and I think God that there was no permanent damage to our son.

Oh. My. I'm so glad you met one of the doctors with the courage to tell you the truth.

That was a very close call.

Yikes.

I'm very happy for your son and your family. How sad that the doctor didn't feel he/she could speak openly. It is a sad and damning testament to the corruption and conspiracy involved in this vaccine travesty. Thank you for sharing your story.

wow!
What a story!
If I didn't already know they were poison I would be convinced by this testimony!
Thanks for sharing.

Great post @benjojo! Your thinking seems to be along the same lines as my own. It is not just the vaccinations which you have drawn attention to and highlighted but the overwhelming amount of un-natural toxins and stimuli that our bodies are being forced to deal with on a daily basis. I don't feel that we are anywhere close to our true intended state as human beings and in most cases in todays society we are moving ever further away from our original design and intended purpose here. I see all of the illness and suffering being endured by elderly people and the rise of all manner of diseases and ailments in life and can't believe that others can't see it for waht it is. Everything we put into our bodies is having an effect on them whether it be food, drink, drugs, or prescription medication, or even the less obvious ones like aftershaves, deoderants and powders etc, all having an effect of some kind on our physiology and a cumulative effect over time and that is to say nothing of the radio waves etc flying through our bodies unnoticed and unchecked and only set to get worse in the next few years with the roll out of 5G. Who knows what effects all of these things are having.....in the majority of cases no-one seems to care and unfortunately for those of us who do care like yourself, our words are very often overlooked by everyone except those who are already familiar with the things we talk about.

I really hope that your post finds an as yet uninformed audience my friend and helps to change some peoples perspective. Thanks for a great post buddy!

Have a great day! :)

Thank you. It doesn't take a genius to work out that things don't add up. Looking beneath the film of authoritarian 'respectability,' the vile and massive decay of greed induced corruption is staring you right in the face. Our bodies and our systems, relative to health and survival for humans on Earth are rapidly revealing the extent of the necrosis.

At the moment , ourselves and the earth only exist to serve the needs of the corporations and the few. That needs to change. We need to get back to a symbiotic relationship with our world and our own bodies, not because of climate change or this supposed danger or that supposed danger which someone is always happy to tax and profit from but because it is the right thing to do, it's why we are here I believe, and it is also the only thing that is going to save us from destroying ourselves in the very near future.

Thanks again mate. Take it easy! :)

I couldn't agree more. There's a lot to be said for a wholesome, less material existence. If people want purpose, they might try looking in the raising others up corner under the dusty blanket of putting others before yourself, covering the dying old man of you get out what you put in! ;) The false competition for shallow junk you don't need is just another layer of divide and conquer, a stupidity tax that corporations exact from us that conveniently enriches and sustains the shit show.

It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.

Can't remember who said it now but never a truer word has been spoken, unfortunately. :(

But it's just a ride! :)

Renowned author Mark Twain apparently :)

Great quote......very apt.

He has many excellent ones to choose from. :)

It's great to see more and more people getting in on this debate and writing about it here on Steemit.
Big Pharma is out of control and has too many politicians in its pocket the world over. The industry ceased to function in the interests of the health of the public a long time ago and is now just a cash cow circle jerk with politicians mandating vaccines while bigPharma self regulate, providing donations, directorships and campaign funds.
It's totally corrupt and people are getting permanently damaged or killed as a result. It needs to stop.
Great post dude.

Thank you. Genocidal corruption is running rampant the world over. It's as if there is a race for which group of psychopathic maniacs will create the straw that breaks the camel's back. Meanwhile the vile damage being done as the world continues it's fall into the dark horror of corporate controlled demolition is already beyond imagining.

I totally agree, it's not just big Pharma. The Military industrial complex, big oil, tobacco and others are all involved. The despicable scumbags that own the lackeys in government are the issue. It would never have got this bad if not for their malevolence.

Thank you.

The oil industry spawned the chemical industry which, in turn spawned the pharmaceutical industry. Also, the chemical industry makes the fertilizers and pesticides for the agricultural industry which is who makes the toxic, disease causing 'food', alcohol, and tobacco. All of these create the diseases that pharma profits from managing, with the addition of the disorders caused by pharmaceutical use, and the management of damage caused by the military.

The military is used to protect the production of pharmaceutical base ingredients, like opium, and the mining products for further military/chemical/agricultural expansion and control.

Every piece reinforces all the others.

The despicable scumbags that own the lackeys in government are a major part, but the People, at large, are the ones allowing all of this to continue, otherwise it could not.

When I was young, I learned the opposite of love is not hate, but apathy. I think this bears out in the long term. Those who wish to abrogate their responsibilities to the psychopathic control seekers seem to me to be worse than the scumbags, because they have the ability to stop it. Psychopaths are not necessarily in possession of this comprehension or capability.

Any further thoughts would be welcome.

I would add that the assymetric distribution and availability of quality knowledge is one of the main causes of the apathy you mention. The almost total control of the formation, repositories and flow of information is a factor that cannot be overlooked, nor the disempowerment that results. How is that control accomplished? With total economic control afforded by the central banking superstructure that enables unlimited theft, therefore unlimited power which underpins all the other pillars of control you mention.

Thank you for your comments. This is a subject of which I am striving to understand the elements and nuances.

I have not overlooked the control of quality knowledge, but have considered it carefully, and discarded it as an inadequate excuse. I don't have any secret sources. My classmates received the same 'education' as myself. The information that I have is readily available to anyone willing to take the time. The valid reasons that seem to be possible are remote isolation, lack of ability to comprehend, and/or apathy.

Most people allow themselves to be controlled, by their willful ignorance, apathy and inaction, not, it appears to me, because they are incapable. To accept that they are merely being held down would be for me to rob them of moral agency, which is not my place to do. We the People put the gun, that is pointed at our heads, in the hand of those that have usurped, with our tacit encouragement, our individual agency. If we should choose to reclaim this agency, the psychopaths are too few to stop us.

The majority of psychopaths, who are allowed to continue running things, are incapable of doing anything other than what their faulty nervous systems do by default. They are pathological, as can be seen by the results of their meddling in the behavior of the People, and in the world of things.

Further thoughts are welcomed.

I find it hard to find fault your reasoning and conclusions. I will say that awakening is a process and it gathers momentum. Before it begins, there is only lies and corrupt perspectives.

Good article, a doctor in australia just went on stage at the screening of the vaxxed film and spoke his mind about why he is agaisnt vaccines. He is now being investigated by the medical board...no doubt the pharma cartel will hang him putbto dry...

Well the facts speak for themselves so hopefully the medical board will acknowledge them and he'll be vindicated....assuming he stuck to the facts. Many doctors today are failing to uphold the standard for care to which they have sworn....the Hippocratic Oath.

Sadly, the facts are whatever the highest bidder decides they are in this day and age.

It only seems that way....."Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."

I don't believe facts stop being facts simply because people claim they aren't, quite the opposite. Truth is truth no matter how much you shout, scream, and holler that it is not. What I'm pointing out is that our society struggles with finding the truth because there is so much disinformation out there, especially by information brokers or gatekeepers.

I'm of the opinion that vaccines have their place under certain circumstances, but they've been abused and used as tools against people in harmful ways due to pure and simple greed.

Absolutely....sorry I didn't mean to imply you weren't aware.....I used the quote to indicate a source of hope. The disinformation is gradually being revealed along with the facts and empowering a revaluation that is long overdue. I too am all for health improvements that have integrity, whatever they are called.

It is a shame they are investigating him, and not educating themselves on their part in mass murder.

On the upside, the pharmaceutical cartel are showing themselves to be what they are, slavers and murderers.

All medical boards and schools are funded by pharma...

Good point @benjojo however it depends on the circumstances . Vaccines have saved many people especially in the developing world , on the other hand, it has resulted to deaths too- the same issue with big pharma and doctors . However as we all can not heal ourselves and our communities with natural remedies, we have to go with western drugs and medicines and hope for the best. Thanks for sharing.

Hi Charles, I'm afraid hope is not a rational strategy and it doesn't do any good for anyone, least of all those who become the human collateral damage. When you say vaccines have saved many people, at what cost and what percentage genuinely saved? You assume a degree of efficacy that is not born out by the efficacy of western vaccines. Booster, booster, booster, booster, shedding, infectious diseases in vaccinated populations etc etc. There are more effective means of reducing disease in the developing world that do not require intolerable sacrifices for a growing proportion of the population.... but those solutions would require a total rewiring of global priorities. When you say we cannot heal ourselves and communities with natural remedies, are you saying people do not have their own immune systems, cannot improve the effectiveness of their immune systems naturally and can't fight any infectious diseases for themselves? If so, I'm surprised because it seems self-evident that they can. In countries where there is a lack of sanitation, basic hygiene, poor nutrition, adverse climatic conditions and other severe impacts on whole body health and immune system integrity there is undoubtedly a greater susceptibility to infectious diseases. Is vaccination the best and only answer to improving outcomes? No. Perhaps they are the most profitable and easier to implement politically...but they come with a severe cost....as we are all finding out.

If a vaccine for a serious disease could be manufactured without these potentially horrendous and unresearched risks, that would be superb....but will never happen with unaccountable manufacturers and an uninformed population. Thank you for raising an alternative point of view to mine, I think courteous debate is really healthy and whilst I disagree with some of your points, I certainly don't have all the answers but I know the problems with vaccines today must be confronted. This is a terrifyingly complex problem and most people are simply trying to do their best. All the best bud.

I understand your concern and agree with your view point. However in reality, what will you do against the epidemic of polio , yellow fever , chicken pox et al which vaccnes have helped to redice and control the epidemic however with some health costs / side effects to some people. I am a supporter of using natural remedies and sustainable hygiene as solution to all health issues however we all know that the big pharmas plus their dogs (governments) will kick against such due to low gains in taxation and lobbying money. On the other hand, a prudent combination of western and traditional natural medicines ie both working together , will yield more positive fruits.

I am afraid you are misinformed about polio, yellow fever and chicken pox vaccines my good friend.
The only things that will help bring the first two under control is changes in sanitation and hygiene.
A group of medical doctors in India have taken out full page advertisements in the major newspapers begging the foundations to immediately cease the polio vaccine programs, as they are doing tremendous amounts of harm.

Chicken pox, is an almost harmless disease in healthy children, and we are starting to understand that having passed through it allows the proper development of the immune system, and along with normal exposures throughout life, provides 100% effective protection against both chicken pox and shingles.
Shingles is a disease, that unlike Chicken Pox, regularly maims and kills.
(of course a vaccine against shingles has now been developed)

Now, for the costs of the interventions favoured by the large supposedly humanitarian foundations, real change could be made to communities throughout the third world, in sanitation and clean water and food, resulting in permanent improvements in life expectancy and infant mortality.

Good point @spaingaroo I agree with you that cleanliness helps prevent and eradicate disease and only wish that the underdeveloped and developing world will do a better job in that regards.
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After some events within our family in the past few years, we began researching vaccines and finally came to the conclusion that we just could not get the right information to be able to safely vaccinate children. My cousin, who was a healthy 17 year old girl before her MMR booster vaccine, somehow "spontaneously" developed an inability to produce her own red blood cells two weeks after the vaccine and will now have to be on medication the rest of her left to help her body continue to make blood. When my aunt strongly urged the doctor to report the issue as a vaccine reaction, he refused because he said there was no proof and that the problem just "happened". So when people say there's no proof of the vaccine reactions...it strongly looks like those reactions are being ignored, not reported and certainly not studied properly.

The coverup of evidence is clearly staggering and the failure of people who are harmed and live with the direct consequences is total.

OMG so sad yet so true!

Absolutely Not! No trust or confidence in any drug pharmaceutical company!
Years ago I as in one of my drs offices and heard the dr pushing a young mother to vaccinate her baby, she had concerns about what was in the vaccines and the dr was trying to brow beat her to the level of threats of refusing to be her dr along with a call to child protective services for her abuse of the baby. This young mother had tears running down her face when I stepped out to ask the dr How much is your kickback for this vaccine? As the dr got red in the face I reminded her as a researcher I knew for a proven fact she made money off each and every drug she pushed, yup the young mother left with no further threats coming from the dr along with my phone number if she needed a witness in court...I did fire the dr for unethical conduct and last I heard she moved to another city...
Shared to others!

Given the extent of big pharma influence on our lives, a rapidly developing and totally deserved lack of trust is beyond alarming. I completely agree with you....never again for me. Well done for sticking up for that young woman.

I could Not remain silent...

Modern medicine isn't for everyone. Vaccines are being pumped out without adequate testing. Live vaccines are the worst. They are giving you the illness and hoping you will develop antibodies. Remember, medicine is an art- not a science. There is a reason you say a doctor is practising.

talking abaut pharma is dangerous :D

vacines are ridiculous and theyre here to control the system. over population , stock exchanges, forex market the hole world is so fucked because its controled just of a few people but moust people dont know.
our hole old people rent system is a fuc.... ponzi. i was one two max three years ago here in south america was the dengue virus. you think it come from the nature its a human produced virus introduced to a special typ of moscquitos. what you get with this the media make such a big deal out of it so every body who watches news first thing he does go buying the freaking anti tablet for this or the anti vacine or what the hell i know and yea money is moving people are forced to waste theyre money the stock exchange falls in the countrys the virus is in etc its a chain reaction but at the end just few make profit just a few and we are just marionets who make move like they move us... sorry for my english im new here hope of an some good replies thats how i see it dont feel obliatet to belife me :D

We have a friend in Michigan where we are from who is in the medical field and when she was pregnant I tried to warn her about vaccines and she wouldn't hear it. Her first child was fully vaccinated and after one year became full-blown autistic. When her she was pregnant with her second child she decided to do a delayed vaccination schedule and even still her second child also became artistic but not to the degree as the first. By the time she was pregnant with their third child she decided to give the no vaccination option A go and thankfully her third child is not autistic at all.

That is a very sad and alarming correlation. I hope there's a chance that the children can get better.

Have you have asked her to look into the work that Andy Wakefield has been doing.
He is getting great results with helping recover these children through a process of working on repairing the gut, which is one of the main systems damaged by these poisons.

It is what she is looking for I am sure

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