[Steemhunt] ABV (Account based voting) in development

in #utopian-io6 years ago (edited)

Hi @jayplaco here! Some development news from @steemhunt

0. Repository


https://github.com/Steemhunt/


Today we are going to talk about the current situation at Steemhunt, where the quality of the content is not driving the community but the use of bots in the background for a successful hunt.

The Steemhunt team is already aware about this issue and for that reason a github issue has been opened and after talking to the main dev. of Steemhunt (@tabris) the implementation is already planned for the next weeks.

So let`s start to see what the issue is and what AVB would give the Steemhunt community.

1. Find the problem of voting / Bug Fixes

Steemhunt, vote bots, incentives and why they need SMT's @exyle
Is Steemhunt Abusing? @sirin418 (Text in Korean)
Add Flag Feature on steemhunt @tio

Some users already have found that the current setting can be abused with bots to get easily a higher daily ranking. In fact, the users are doing it on daily base now and it comes to the same issue steemit has in background that not the content is speaking but the steempower.

[Picture 1]
With "Picture 1" we can see the current No.1 of Today`s ranking from Steemhunt. There is almost no text (so no offence, but I don`t consider this as quality content...), a picture and that was it. How does it happen that this post is ranking No.1? The answer is easy if you have a look who is actually voting
The highest voter here is called tribesteemup which is a collective voting bot. And with more than 80% of the total vote it is the highest voting power here. Using this strategy you can actually max out your ROI with relatively small or no investment (dependent on what kind of bot you are using.)

2. Yeah, let`s use ABV, but what is that?

The account-based voting revolution - @liberosist
Account Based Voting is a Terrible Idea for STEEM - @nealmcspadden

@ned has mentioned ABV (Account based voting) on his Korea tour and there are pros and cons on it, but to explain it easily see below,

A. Current voting system.

  • The more steem power you have, more voting power you get, which means you can give more money.
  • problem : bots, curation groups, curation trails, voting pools.

B. Account based voting

  • One account counts has only one voting power
  • problem : without any weighting of an account a spam account has the same power as a whale account. This is what @nealmcspadden is talking about.

3. Approach from Steemhunt team / New Features


github entry : https://github.com/Steemhunt/web/issues/135

Logic

  • One upvote has 10 points with 100% vp.
  • The point proportionally decrease based on the hunter's set vp. For example, the hunter upvotes with 50% vp, the score will be 5 point.
  • Whitelist: Scores are only be counted by the user who have hunted AT LEAST ONE TIME.

Possible Progress (Just examples and not fixed)

  • More intensive whitelist: counted by the hunters with at least three times, exclude blacklist hunters, etc.
  • Hunter's badge system: We can level the hunters based on their hunting history, from Lv.1 to Lv.5.
    Lv.1: 1 hunts (1 full voting score: 10 poinst)
    Lv.2: 10 days hunting + 10 times upvoting the hunting posts (1 full voting score: 20 poinst)
    Lv.3: Lv.2 + at least 3 times on top 10 hunts (1 full voting score: 30 poinst)
    Lv.4: Lv.2 + at least 5 times on top 10 hunts (1 full voting score: 50 poinst)
    Lv.5: 30 days hunting + 30 times upvoting the hunting posts + at least 10 times on top 10 hunts. (1 full voting score: 100 poinst)
    The Lv can be downgraded if the hunter does not have any hunting or voting activities more than 10 days. (Lv 5 -> Lv 4 -> ...)

4. So what does that mean?

@steemhunt will give only active Steemhunters the possibility to vote (whitelist) and level them with badges to differentiate the reputation within the community. Based on the given voting power% a vote can count from 0-100. (Based on your level) The badge system gives different levels to activate the hunters for better content. All this steps are planned to give active hunters with high quality content the best chance for the highest rewards.

5. Roadmap

It is planned to test the first settings next week, but there is in this moment no official deadline from team @steemhunt , but the main dev. from Steemhunt mentioned that it is very a high priority before scaling to the next stage. So let`s see how this will change the quality of the content at steemhunt.

6. Github Account


https://github.com/zionopia


Thanks for reading!

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Hello @jayplayco, welcome to Utopian. Your post looks promising and we are glad that we can see more people using Utopian tags. However, we have realized that you did not choose the correct second tag. We use a pair of tags to categorize the contribution posts.

Note that development category is dedicated to developers who present their own work. In this case, we see that blog section is more suitable for this post. Please change the second tag to blog if you want to have this post reviewed by Utopian moderators.

There is also another minor issue I could spot. We expect the link of the repository somewhere at the top of post. You provided a link to the particular issue that discuss ABV. We would expect the link of the repository root, then you can of course add more links in the text if they enhance the content.

A Utopian moderator may see this post after you edit the second tag.

Edit: Adding relevant issue from GitHub as I can't see it anymore in the post.

Hi @espoem thanks a lot for explaining in detail. It is always a bit difficult to meet the right guides and it is a blessing that you have took the time to explain in detail what has to be changed.

I have edited the text according to your guides and hope that following posts will have less issues :)
Edit : also added the relevant github issue back into the text

Nice to see to see steemhunt ironing out the system early out. The idea makes perfect sense and will make steemhunt what it was mean to be. Good luck to the team.
Ps great user interface @steemhunt

Yeah, I think implementing ABV with Lv.’s will give the right balance back to the content driven hunters.

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I would love to see more contributions about SteemHunt from you, such appealing formatting is encouraged to provide readers a better experience. Though, I think visual content could be improved both in quantity and quality.

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Thank roy for taking the time and reviewing the article. Improvement of Visual content (quantity and quality) is something I am 100% on your side.

Understood that requests for steem engagement (follows for others also) are not welcomed. Was not sure if that is only for a request to follow myself or also the project. Will delete it accordingly!

For a firsttimer at Utopian and a newcomer on steem it was not easy to follow all the guidelines correctly, but thanks to the guides from @espoem and also yours I am now much more confident!

Thanks a lot and happy to be now part of the Utopian-io community.

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