Your contribution cannot be approved because it does not follow the Utopian Rules.
- dont use informal language
- "But at this time it is to much of a burden" - not neeting their requests
- no need to display logo in 700px
- no version of logo in one color provided
- low contrast on their website
- not enough proof of work provided. We need to see construction
- Is it made from block, because its blockchain project?
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Ok this is silly. Stop making up rules and false acusations. This is getting silly.
@espoem @podanjr
And upvoted for the trouble caused. Yes you did your best Zoef
Ty @scipio and i agree.
I don't see any rule violation either. And I think we need to have a chat about changing the way graphics contributions work.
Thats my biggest point. In essence a mod like this is prohibiting me from getting a upvote. That aint correct. I rather have them say they dont like it and why. Then i can learn something. Now it is just silly and it costs me money. It feels like a big downvote to be honest
I don't like this logo either. But your comments are utter nonsense!
For example:
Is it made from block, because its blockchain project?
<= yes, so? He associates the form of the logo with the chained block-nature of the blockchain. You may not like that, but by itself that's a valid creative approach!@elear , @littleboy , @jedigeiss : this is a fantastic example of why we should evaluate whether the graphics category should exist at all, or change it to a 99designs.com contest form: same principle as for development, only 1 merged bit of merged (= accepted, winning) code gets upvoted.
But in this case, the graphics mod is seeking for subjective reasons to reject, because he subjectively doesn't like it (neither do I personally) but objectively this contribution is following the rules.
Let's discuss this guys
PS: self-upvoted for visibility
This is a valid reasoning. It would mean alot of designers would no longer create anything. But quality wil improve drasticly
Did you know zoef banned due to flagging a moderator? and he threatened to do so twice (which i saw). did you fix that issue, secure your mods? Give them free space to decide independent?
Also another dilemma to figure out
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if andrej did it without giving any feedback it would be acceptable and there would be nothing to talk about right now? I may invite you to review-discussion channel then. Everyone expecting a reason. Without reasons they start to seek for it.
..and I personally didn't appreciate your approach.
..and I'm hoping you are not discussing it in private after making it public. I'm having such a great monologue
Yeah i downvoted mods before. That is steemit. If i call you a jerk or act like a douch and get a downvote from you i would understand. If i downvote a mod for not approving because of bs reasons he deserved it in my opinion.
And because of that i actualy got a supervisor to act. If words dont work actions are needed.
Did i downvote andre today? No i did not because scipio listend and responded with logic. Unlike the bs i heard from the mods.
Well, this is weird you've just said, we should change it to 99designs concept, which only the best one gets the price, yet you are giving upvote to whoever makes his best?
You can take a look to have a sense of how graphics mods doing such a great job with eliminating good and bad design. https://anilkilic.github.io/utopian.overview/ ecxuse the interface. Just to get a quick idea..
And this is not a fantastic example to get rid of graphics or change how it works. It's just one in 1000.
I've seen many absurd samples, like a great logo not accepted at github because they didn't want to change their 4 year old branding which was very very bad and old. And a simple circle gets accepted to just to refresh the project.
I'm not telling it's the best approach but without getting into it, don't change the rules out of nowhere.
The clue of it all is simple. The curent rules are the rules. So when a mod does what andre does and invents rules and blatently lie. We do not agree. With the 99design it would be the best that gets rewarded. Scipio gave me a upvote for my efforts wich is nice of him. And has nothing to do with utopian. I did however had a long talk with him. And i partialy agree with him.
Unlike other mods he was straight forward and explained his point of view. Most graph mods spill out bs reasons and afterwards dont explain why.
You are the only one who speaks "bs", if you have a calculator add up contribution count divide it to mod count at reasanable working hour, mods aren't tutors neither teachers, however they are trying their best to give feedback and lead users. But most of users doesn't even care, like you said "it's soft rules who cares soft rules". Soft rules for newcomers or new rule changes to adapt to it. Not to abuse all the time. Do you even know I did search at least 1-4 hour to find a plagiarised content? and how many did I found? 1 hour for a contribution at least. mean if I work for 6 hours I can only review 6 content a day.
These things already been discussed and it's improving day by day.
And you already had the chance to pitch your design to project owner, and always welcomed if you get an approval from there. If you are not happy with mods decisions you could go that way but no, you knew you won't get accepted there too, this is not your first case.
It would be a shame if they decide to change things based on your contributions and complains.
Wow great explenation. You know what the issue is. I speak my thoughts and i speak reason. When there is bs i say there is bs. If you dont like that, that is your problem. The system like it is now does not work.
I couldn’t care less at this moment.
Then why make a comment like that?
The contribution has been accepted. The given reasons were not enough not to approve this contribution.
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