Georges St Pierre announces retirement. Was he the GOAT?

in #ufc6 years ago

Last week Mixed Martial Arts legend Georges St Pierre announced his retirement from competitive fighting. This prompting to take a brief look at his impact on the sport and where he stands in the ranking amongst the all-time greats.

Changed the Game

I first started watching the UFC in 2001. It was a time when Tito Ortiz was the poster boy. It was also a time when fighters were (by-and-large) specialists in one discipline.

Yes, Royce Gracie made it a prerequisite that every fighter understood Jiu-Jitsu. However most fighters had there core skillset, usually grappling or striking.

Then came Georges St Pierre.

A freakishly strong welterweight that was a high-level grappler, adept at Jiu-Jitsu. Yet had a range of dynamic striking and spinning attacks.

Even before he became champion, it was clear that GSP (or at least his fight style) was the future of the sport. He was the birth of the 'modern' fighter that we see today.

‘GSP’ was every bit an athlete as he was a martial artist. He incorporated gymnastics and movement drills into his training regime but he more than just looked the part.

Georges was a ferocious fighter with an unbending will to win inside the Octagon, yet a gentleman who was the personification of what it meant to be a martial artist outside of it.

His way

Most of all, GSP had the ability to dictate a fight on his own terms. If he was fighting a wrestler, Georges had the grappling to keep it standing. If he was fighting a striker, Georges had the stand up to get in and take them down.

His only defeats were against Matt Hughes and Matt Serra. Both defeats he went on to avenge.

GSP fought at a time when the best competed against the best in their division. His reign was epitomized by defences against genuine number one contenders.

Nowadays it is a novelty for Champions to defend their belts. Interim Titles in the UFC are being given out like confetti as a consequence. It is not unusual for two or three fighters to lay claim to being the best in the division. Nor for top contenders to have never fought each other. GSP was Champion who defended his title. Always against the one guy that most would agree was next in line for a shot. And he bested them all.

Hiatus

In 2013 we thought we saw the last of St Pierre when he decided to take a break from the sport. It later emerged that he was taking a stand against the lack of drug testing in MMA.

However, it was clear to many that GSP was still training and his reluctance to officially retire suggested it was a matter of when not if he returned to the Octagon.

Sure enough, GSP returned in 2017, this time skipping the cue and fighting for the Middleweight title against Michael Bisping.

In a performance that highlighted GSPs ability to adapt and find a path to victory, Georges choked out Bisping to become a two-weight UFC champion.

Exclamation point

It was a great high to leave the sport. Which he has now officially done.

Very few professional athletes get to go out on their own terms at an elite level.

The fact that there are still a couple of 'what ifs'... (what if he fought Khabib? What if he fought Anderson in the well overdue Superfight) suggests he got out at the right time.

Many greats tarnish their legacies by taking one fight too many... that turns to two, three, four defeats on their resume against fighters that wouldn't have stood a chance against them in their prime.

That fate should not befall Georges. He carefully crafted a path, in and out of the Octagon, that means he doesn't have to fight again.

Where he ranks?


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For me, there are three men that can have a legitimate claim at being the GOAT in MMA. Anderson Silva, Jon Jones and GSP.

Doping violations and defeats in the tail-end of his career have taken the gloss off of Anderson's achievements.

Jon Jones looked every bit a bigger, better version of GSP, however doping violations and controversy outside the Octagon have halted Jones trajectory.

So for me, if you're looking for a fighter with a storybook legacy. A cerebral fighter inside Octagon. A role model martial artist outside it. Then Georges St Pierre is it. As things stand it is hard to argue against him being the greatest martial artist of all time.

If this is the end for GSP, he couldn't have picked a better time.

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Jon Jones is the most talented figher ever!

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I'd agree. In many ways, he is GSP 2.0 only he keeps it standing more.

However, the doping violations make it hard to call Jones the GOAT right now, although time is on his side in terms of making it right.

In my opinion alomost every ufc fighter is on some kind of PEDS.
They just didnt get caught.

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It's hard to argue against your top 3, but I'll do it anyway 😁

I'd replace Silva with Fedor, while he's a poster child for not quiting on time, in his hayday the guy's been a force of nature. Destroying some great fighters with a look of indifference on his face.

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Once someone has been caught cheating, I can't view them as the greatest, for me GSP is hands down the best of all time.

Cg

I think that he has to be... So far at least.

With Jon Jones there's always that PED issue, so for me it's gotta be GSP.

My 2 cents :P

Daniel Cormier has to be up there in consideration for GOAT too, even though he lost to Jones there is no way of knowing if Jones was fighting clean. I highly suspect not.

GSP though is the greatest of all time in my opinion.

I definitely feel DC is under-rated. I think he made a mistake competing at Light Heavyweight if he stayed at Heavyweight and conquered he'd be in the conversation. I think the Jon Jones defeats were too comprehensive to rate DC above Bones.

Yeah, the fights against Jones do go against him a little. Although officially only one counts on his record as the 2nd fight Jones tested positive and it was overturned. Cormier himself says he lost twice to Jones but I personally will always have a question mark over both his Jones fights and believe there's a high possibility Jones was using PED's the whole time.

Ideally, I would love to see them fight at heavyweight. Whichever of them won at heavyweight it would be very hard to argue that they weren't the GOAT.

I find it difficult to believe Jones was on PEDs his whole career. There are even question-marks over his failed tests, in light of the whole Picogram issue.

When you look at his talent Jones is simply a better fighter than DC.

He has better all round fighting ability.

He beat DC at his own game by outwrestling him in the first fight.

In the second fight Jones used his superior fight IQ to set DC up for the head kick.

I think deep down DC knows Jones has his number, although a fight at Heavyweight between the pair would be interesting.

No doubt he is an exceptional fighter though and the PED's wouldn't help him with his fight IQ and game planning which are a big part of why he is so good.

There is evidence to suggest he might have been on PED's most of his career. His positive tests, his brothers in the NFL also testing positive, that when he came back after being suspended and tested clean was then followed by a poor performance by his standard and then how once he looks back to his best he immediately tests positive.

He's always had his excuses so we will never know for sure and while I still think without PED's he'd still be a champion there will always be the questions. Would he have had the strength to endure Vitor's armbar without PED's, would he have been able to go into the later rounds against Gustafson and Cormier without them?

He was my favourite until Conor entered the ring but still i use love watching him fight.... as i was also having a urge to be a UFC fighter but my parents haven't allowed me to be one....

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I do think he will return to fight Ben Askren, if only because Ben doesn't hit very hard (Ben's words). Okay, maybe I only hope this because I am a Askren fan boy.

I think Askren has his hands full with Lawler tonight. He'll do well to get through that test!

We're headed to winghouse tonight to watch the fights! All I know is that its going to be a great one to watch. (Looking forward to several fights, but I grew up talking about Askren dominating state wrestling in highschool!)

I did a breakdown on Askren if you are interested, most of the good stuff comes from BJJ scout on youtube, who had a great series on Ben's folkstyle adaptations to the BJJ meta game.

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