Be careful if you criticize steem-ua

in ua •  24 days ago

You might end up getting a reply like this:


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Instead of replying to the valid concerns (facts) in the thread, attacking the author, accusing for being a copycat, and "witness-vote-unapproval" revenge. (The last one was very fun to read, great creativity.)

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What are the criticisms? I for one noticed that the top ua accounts look identical to the top witnesses and suspect the reason is that trust is originating from those witnesses. But I have not studied the math in detail.

I also would like to understand their bots stake based rewards and revenue structure in general.

Could you link the original article?

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The problem is there is no math behind steem-ua. Their rank algorithm is closed to us. Tell me why my rank is different than Yours, only steem-ua knows ;)
This can lead to alternative reputation manipulation.

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Okay I thought it would be specified in the white paper ...

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Had an interesting conversation with him today, so I know what you mean. will be posting details soon.

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Interesting....it depends a lot on what you had asked

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He said I was hacked or people are psychic because multiple people DM him about us talking. I only know one person who knew so I asked who else which he refused to mention and that’s where this came from.

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so the whole issue is people DM him about you ( marky ) and him were having conversation on discord ?

I mean you run a upvote bot which can potentially utilize the UA algo for curation/quality control , so I wouldn't even be surprised if you were "talking" ...

TBH..it's all very confusing as to what the real issue is.... he did seem a bit jumpy nonetheless

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No, the whole issue is I said I had concerns about UA and how people jumping all over it blindly and want to do some due diligence and do testing before it gets turned into a vote bot with free Steemit Inc stake (which is his ultimate goal).

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I had laid out a bunch of concerns on the announcement posts , as long as they keep making upgrades on the algo and keep diversifying the criteria the idea has potential to be meaningful.

Yeah, humans be human, yo.

I think you have valid concerns but we should wait and see how the steem community benefits from steem-ua as there is a lot of potential I think.

I do agree that it is essential that the rating system is fair and transparent and as such steem-ua should be open source. I got Scipio's reassurance that this will be the case so let's wait and see.

There is definitely some kind of a craze going on at the moment and I for one have delegated my only 300SPs to the project, not that it makes a big difference in the process.

I must say that the backing of utopian has played a big part in my decision to delegate. But hopefully we are not all being too naive.
I don't think utopian could sustain a position to support software that is not open, transparent and fair. So let's wait and see.

With over 200k SPs delegation steem-ua sees itself with great influence on the steem platform and for now I trust the guys behind steem-ua to use it wisely. I'll keep monitoring how they are doing.

I think @scipio should withdraw the comment about lightsteem and apologise for it. Regardless of the concerns raised about steem-ua it's inappropriate and not relevant to the topic of discussion.

Now let's all have a group hug!

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300k delegation is peanuts. UA should go open-source when it has enough traction to solidify it's first movers advantage. Any attempts of open-sourcing at this point will undermine it, bot operators will appropriate it for themselves without paying dues to the people who created it.

As long as it doesn't abuse it to upvote itself, which can be easily proven, let it be

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!popcorn

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race condition?

!popcorn

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That's the spirit!

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!popcorn

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What were the concerns you had raised ? can you please update the post with that screenshot.

seems like someone has their panties in a twist. ;)

For the time that I've been using steem-ua it has gone well. There's quite a few people apart of it that I have seen around steem and liked enough that compelled me to join. Weird seeing a response like this from the creator...

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