Pay your taxes with Bitcoin!

in #taxes3 years ago (edited)

No one wants to pay their taxes, but now you can pay them in Bitcoin, at least in one part of the world. 

Recently it was announced in Chiasso, Switzerland that citizens can now pay their taxes in Bitcoins.

Chiasso is a municipality of Switzerland, located in the southern most tip of Switzerland, right near the border with Italy.

It is not very large, with a population of roughly 8,500 people. However, the announcement further signifies the intent of Switzerland to become a global leader in the Bitcoin and cryptocurrency industries.

Is there a limit to how much taxes citizens can pay in Bitcoin?

Currently, yes.

Citizens can pay their taxes in Bitcoin up to 250 Swiss Francs, which is roughly equal to $268 USD.

This will be fully implemented and allowed by January 2018.

As you can see, it is not a lot of money, but it is a step in the right direction. I would imagine if things go well with this smaller amount, and the industry becomes more widely adopted, the limits will only increase.

In fact, the more I read the more it looks like these low limits are just set for the initial trial run with plans of increasing them substantially.

Paying taxes with Bitcoin is not new in Switzerland, it is going on in Zug, Switzerland already.

Zug is much larger than Chiasso and has already been allowing their citizens to pay taxes in Bitcoin for some time now. 

Zug currently has a population of around 30,000 people and since July of this year has received more than 40 tax payments made in Bitcoin already. 

The current payment limit in Zug (for Bitcoin) is 200 Francs. Which is roughly $212 USD.

They are also looking at raising those limits. 

Why is Chiasso/Switzerland doing this?

The hope is that the expanding cryptocurrency industry can replace lost tax revenue from the diminishing local banking sector. 

According the Chiasso mayor, Chiasso is starting to be recognized internationally as an epicenter for technological innovation.

There has even been a push to re-brand the area as "CryptoPolis" to help further establish the cryptocurrency narrative in the region and attract crypto focused individuals. 

The Mayor of Chiasso has taken numerous steps designed to attract cryptocurrency companies to the region.

Over the past several months, he has met with several cryptocurrency based businesses and entrepreneurs.

Already, 8 cryptocurreny startups have established their headquarters in Chiasso.

That is all well and good, but this last part is the really exciting news in my opinion...

The Chiasso government announced the development of education courses in upper secondary schools designed to bolster cryptocurrency education among students.

They are teaching young people about blockchain and cryptocurrency!

If something like this were to catch on with other education systems, the technology behind blockchain and cryptocurrency would take off at an ever faster rate than it is currently.

Some countries are embracing the technology while others are scrambling to ban it.

It is interesting that some countries are trying to outlaw these things while others are embracing them with open arms. 

If more countries/cities start following the lead of Chiasso (among others) and start doing things like this, the countries that are outlawing will probably be forced to reconsider. 

I would imagine their plan all along has been to effectively regulate these things more so than just outright banning them in the first place.

Times are a bit rocky at the moment in the crypto industry, but news like this encourages me that these things are not just going to go away.

Stay informed my friends.

Sources:

https://news.bitcoin.com/chiasso-switzerland-to-allow-citizens-to-pay-taxes-in-bitcoin/

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Wow interesting news, waiting for that in the UK. It should be possible unlimited, since taxes on btc dont have a limit as well

It's great more and more people are accepting Bitcoin. But why would I want to hand over my bitcoin to the the government?


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This a big step toward legitimizing Bitcoin everywhere. Nice post thank you

sir really great information, Nice post thank you

We might need that in the future. Who knows????????

Nice post very informative, if I have to pay any taxes this year I plan to withdraw the money either from a BTC-ATM or debit it from my Bitpay card. Usually I get money back though. I notice you post a lot about regulations on crypto. Do you want to see strict regulations on Crypto like BTC, LTC, etc...? Some order I guess? Instead of a totally decentralized system?

lol this makes alot of sense

Indeed

Well finally some smart governments, why would a government their taxes be paid in fiat currencies, when Bitcoin is an option. This trend will definitely catch on around the world. Great post, followed @rishherbalist.

This is very encouraging. It is interesting to watch the differing approach that countries are taking. The Swiss see crypto as a windfall and opportunity to profit. Others, mostly in places with a central bank, like the US wants to control it. Who will win in the end? We shall see.

As for paying for taxes in Bitcoin, I dont think I would do that. Being in the US, I would rather pay in the USD which is going to be worth less in 5 years as opposed to BTC which will be worth much more in my opinion. Get rid of the worthless currency.

Thanks for the post.

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yes it very encouraging.

The irony of paying taxes with bitcoin. Ha!

thank. for post

I dont think I'd waste my BTC like that lol!

Your money can now be stolen with credibility!

That's precisely what i just thought!

Yes, In our country govt announced that soon bitcoin, onecoin and some more currencies will have taxes !

does ONECOIN really have value ?
its been long i heard about it

You're definitely right, I've never heard of that ish.

no its a pyramid scheme that claims to be the "next bitcoin" . they have no prove of blockchain and the people who operate onecoin have been in ponzi schemes before

bitcoin may pay everything

waiting for the day until governent doesnt accept other currencies than btc for taxes :)

If they legalize btc, banks will collapse.

Great! Now people can pay with real money!

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That's not fair, I think this is cheating. It must be stopped.

bitcoinization of world... I can't decide if it's good or bad

Silly me, here I was thinking that what was creating the crypto-boom is NOT having to pay taxes! So that we as humanity keep $ out of the psychopathic sectors' hands so they can't keep using our own wealth to incarcerate and murder us and other ppl. Clearly, I was mistaken! Thanks for this brilliant "piece"!

Heavy, dripping sarcasm*

Taxation is theft.
Statism is slavery.
All human interactions should be voluntary.

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minarchists are everywhere, even some socialists find crypto-coins tempting in some degree.

"Minarchist" is a fancy way of saying Statist. So indeed minarchists are everywhere.
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crypto currency is taken over the world. very soon everything will be done with it.

Paying taxes with Bitcoin! That is a surprising development. I don't believe any country currently allows payment of taxes in gold or silver. Wow, Bitcoin just scored another big innovation over precious metals!

This is really awesome news for the crypto world.

The most exciting part is the teaching of blockchain and cryptocurrency to secondary schools.

The Chiasso government announced the development of education courses in upper secondary schools designed to bolster cryptocurrency education among students.

It is also an opportunity for us here to learn about crypto now, so that when our governments decide to teach crypto to schools,guess who will be hired?

We the Steemians will be hired.
I am in Uganda and many people are still green about Crypto and it is why i keep learning more about the industry.

I am optimistic i will be a consultant soon in crypto.

If something like this were to catch on with other education systems, the technology behind blockchain and cryptocurrency would take off at an ever faster rate than it is currently.

Let us be optimistic about crypto

Just go for it, make Meetups and such to educate your friends and family at first and then go bigger.

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Ironic. Somehow this seems counterproductive to the whole concept of decentralized libertarian sovereign currency for the people. Banks and taxes are the epitome of oppression, slavery and mass complicity. Shame, and to think no one would see this. Like sheep to the slaughter comes to mind for some strange reason. This could be another chapter in the Idiocracy 2.0

Digital currency is inevitable. You will always be able to remain anonymous by different means or currencies, fortunately ;)

I think the combination of being proactive and using the right digital currencies with the appropriate tech is the key to staying anon and avoiding big brother spying eyes, especially concerning wealth preservation.

We pay miners fees this is our taxes :)

Finally Cryptocurrencies start to be more acknowledged by the public und the gvt. This is one more step towards a general use of cryptocurrencies all over the world. Hopefully this developments continue in the future and things like the recent incident with China forbidding ICO's remain exceptions.

and my country still ignore bitcoin

Switzerland does seem to be the place to be right now for bitcoin and blockchain related happenings, you can even purchase bitcoin at their train stations https://www.sbb.ch/en/station-services/services/further-services/bitcoin.html

Paying your tax in bitcoin would certainly bring in some revenue to the taxman that probably would be avoided, I look forward to seeing how the rest of the world looks at bitcoin and tax.

Unless you are dealing with a large amount then I don't think you really have too much too worry about at the moment anyway.

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it is quite motivating for cryptocurrency miners...its is surprising how bitcoin os making its place in the economy of world

Bitcoin may trade able in every country but, china . . . . . so sorry . . . . . .

Its a great News @jrcornel ..... definitely It will boost value of Digital currencies... and on the other hand Switzerland will become the pioneer towards this revolutionary step .... It will improve its tax revenue and people will have a best alternative of paying their taxes.....

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the way govt is supporting cryptocurrency is really appreciative

they don't have a choice

Yes, In our country govt announced that soon bitcoin, onecoin and some more currencies will have taxes

Thanks for sharing this informational article this will help us much more and good news for all Bitcoin users and all for who have Bitcoins :)

Great signal for the future of cryotcurrencies. Its definitely inevitable and one step futher in legitimizing cryptos making them mainstream alternatives to fiat currencies.

Very interesting post thank you

that is so nice

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Wow.. thanks for sharing .. i hope other country follow the same, or improve tax collection thru bitcoin.. everyone is hype. government is also investing in this thing.

Good article @jrcornel ! If the blockchain revolution is now where internet was in 1994 I cannot wait what it will be in 2027

This is very interesting news. Thank you!

I'd be a little nervous about doing this in the US. Switzerland clearly has deep respect for economic and personal privacy that we have yet to adopt.

I use Bitcoin so that I won't have to pay taxes ;) Waiting for that TenX / Monaco cards to go mainstream. Guess there will be regulations by then :(

We speculate that the cryptographic currency, including BTC, has significant performance advantages over existing currencies and follows the same changes as mobile phones replacing smartphones. The difference with smartphones is resistance. Depending on the situation, not only banks but also nations can become enemies. The future of this revolution is interesting.
Looking at the article that tax can be paid by BTC, it will be fun to think about future development.

Thanks, Hopefully also other countries will do the same... Bitcoin to the moon!!!! 🚀🌕

it's good they are doing this but i think btc will be overtaken by another crypto

Switzerland is a very progressive country and this move, even if only in a small area, could have significant and positive results for the legalisation of Bitcoin everywhere.

Great post. I really like how there are always more real world usecases for Bitcoin.
I wonder what they do with all their BTC. Do they keep it? Do they open up an account at bitfinex and sell it?

More and more governments are looking to blockchain technology. Learning how to make it more practical to use in everyday life will be a big step for stronger adoption. Governments giving people options on how to use crypto for taxes is a fantastic step in the right direction.

That being said, Nationalists who fear a New World Order or a Global Government will be terrified of this.

This is sure a great step!!! Governments have started to realize the need to save people the drudgery of visiting offices- and the queues. A plus for people who like less interactions.

this is good news i guess? i'm all for bitcoin gaining acceptance and going mainstream, somehow it doesn't feel quite right using a peer-to-peer, decentralised, stick-it-to-the-man crypto currency to pay for government sanctioned theft :(

what do you think, would you pay your taxes with bitcoin? maybe if you bought bitcoin when it was much lower and it won't cost you a lot of bitcoin to pay for your taxes?

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Wish that bitcoin is fully legalized.

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It is indeed a good step towards the future of crypto's. I'm pretty sure other countries that banned bitcoin/crypto will reconsider it when they see other countries embracing it.

Long live Switzerland! Although would be nice when they raise the limit past CHF 250. And also nice once we get past these China and Russia roadbumps and BTC picks up its merry course. There was a bit of an over reaction last week I think.
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@wanderingmind/over-blown-market-reaction-on-bitcoin-news-from-russia-and-china

And while we are on the subject of taxes... pay your capital gains taxes.!!!!!!! I don't want to crypto being associated with tax evasion or anyone going to jail.

Why not? Do you want to continue to be a slave to your government masters?

I like to believe that the majority of the crypto community are law abiding people that want to give Crypto a good name. Lol, but go ahead and do what you got to do, man. Break the law if you need too. I'm obviously not going to stop you.

This isnt a rant. just politly passing on some information. Much Love jawilder!

Look at it from a different angle.
Your living the life of a slave. To a government that extorts money from you. You do it willingly and with pride. Which is a classic example of Stockholm syndrome.

"I'm a tax payer!" or"I'm Law abiding"That actually means. "I'm an extortion victim!"I'm a Rule Follower. Doesn't mean your a good person at all.(generally speaking) It just means you do as your told . Like a good slave.

All government and regulations are going to be a relic of the past. Everything will be blockchain. For now. Fear will keep you paying taxes. The fear of punishment for not paying their extortion fees.(aka taxes) Just be aware there are opportunities to break free now!

Block chain everything!

No I don't know how to block chain everything. I also know that "how" doesn't matter. Pandora's block chain is opened and it can't go back in. True freedom is now for some, and coming soon for all.

Do research on this an you will see.

#anarchy

I am libertarian just as much as the next guy and I understand your point of view very well. While I would love to just jump into crypto acting as legal tender (and not subject to capital gains tax) I'm looking at it from the point of view that government being a major threat to the space . The gov is ITCHING for any reason to label this a bad thing and to regulate the hell out of this market. In these early days the last thing we need is a bunch of people evading taxes giving them that opportunity they are waiting for. While they technically can't do anything to the block chain in reality it will scare new money from entering the space; this, slowing ts adoption massively. .. and yes, taxes are extortion...and yes, people pay it out of fear (including myself)... but as the tax code is written currently I do not see any legitimate way around it.

Government has used intricate wording and outright lies to keep you paying. There are loopholes in any system. I have found a few. Im sure many otheres have aswell. I'm happy your "aware" as you state. I posted part of conversation we have had. Here is a response to our conversation.

"Taxation is theft! the government are thieves! Blockchain will save us - Blockchain is an open ledger system with credits not backed by the US government - therefore they have no claim on my cryptocurrency any more than they have claim on my monopoly winnings....

Im definatly not the only one and neither are you. If you pay anything to the government for you bitcoin your volunteering to doing so. You are not bound to do so at anytime. I hope you can summon the courage to make moves against your government by not supporting it and developing alternatives.

I'm glad we are able to have a civil discussion about this even though we have differing perspectives. And I am glad someone agrees with you; but to say the government "has no claim on my cryptos" is a statement that will never stand up in a court of law or the IRS code. It does not matter that it is not backed by the US government; neither is gold, it is still categorized as a asset subject to capital gains. Go ask your tax professional.

But perhaps I may have sent a confusing message; allow me to clarify. I am not disagreeing with you. I am a fan of small gov. I am a fan of free market. I hate seeing my pay check cut in half from taxes. In an ideal world I would love to not pay and do what ever the hell I want. With that said, try to see it from my point of view. From a cost benefit analysis perspective, the potential consequences (in my opinion) out weigh the benefits. If I don't pay taxes everything could be fine, but I may also have to go to jail or pay backed taxes (I hear jail is not a good place to go).

LoL Ah yes! Good stuff! You have good points.
I'm dreaming big with blockchain.
I'm Imagining a world. Soon! Decentralized by the technology. We govern ourselves. Create something better. Then everyone just leaves the old one. No need for revolution with blockchain and similair or new technologies. We just build a better system. EOS and IOTA's Tangle are very interesting. Steemit is a great example of how blockchain can empower social media users and bloggers. Then there is D tube. I could go on with the machine economy that IOTA could/will create. The world is going to change fast. Foresight during this time could mean the difference between taxing yourself to death and opting for something decentralized. I and other's like me. Think it's starting now. It will also grow rapidly. Maybe I'm being too optimistic. What do you think?

I really feel like Switzerland is making a good move here, taking BTC for tax payments. I heard recently that Estonia is trying to carve out a space in the digital world for a "Digital Nation", using Crypto and blockchain tech.

It's going to be an interesting world.

1 step forward, 2 steps back. Or maybe not.

China banning bitcoin in its country could make the coin actually be seen as an actual threat to globalized currency.

So, I prefer CH news!!
They make me more happy than CHN news at the moment ;-)
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Citizens can pay their taxes in Bitcoin up to 250 Swiss Francs, which is roughly equal to $268 USD.

This will be fully implemented and allowed by January 2018.

Thanks @jrcornel

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Awesome! New uses for bitcoin everyday!

bitcoin may pay everything...

Waiting for that to happen here in Argentina, maybe in...250 years from now. $268 USD is a pretty good amount of money here, and i don't think we will ever be able to pay taxes with BTC, or any kind of transaction either.

.. wow. The next two years are going to be interesting. The ten years after that? Scary as hell.

Good news
I hope my country is also imitating chiasso
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Interesting to know that cryptocurrency is beginning to be used until even by the government.

Lovely and amazing post
Thanks to share
Keep it up

this is pretty interesting, adoption of bitcoin as a legal payment method, Very soon most of the countries in the world will going to adopt in just like Japan has done and Russia is planning

interesting.. accepting of bitcoin will be around the world soon.

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I wounder what's next?

It will encourage traders as well as investors in a big way because many countries officially has not recognized the use of cryptocurrency but if it is brought under tax net the it will encourage more investor to trade in cryptocurrency beccause people will feel that Govt one way or the other is keeping a watch over cryptocurrency and this will boost up the morale of the investor

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I dont like those taxes.

Bitcoin must be legalize in Ph:) just saying

Thanks for the news, I would love to pay my taxes with bitcoins.

The future is HERE!

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Great article. -- Those countries who are not embracing cryptocurrencies will lose big time in the future!!

Saw the news yesterday. I'd suspect a lot of people will end up delaying payment - or paying early - because of price fluctuations compared to their native currency. Pretty awesome, nonetheless.

While some countries fully support Bitcoin, there are others do not support it at all. Great post. Thank you!

whoa, i believe that got to be the first large scale of acceptance of Bitcoin as payment

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I am always in favor of paying your taxes, but sometimes taxes are just too high.

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