Steemvoter.com Guild Proposal Continued Dec 17th 2016
A few days ago we put out a post on a Steemvoter Curation Guild proposal, we received some comments and thought we would address them in this new post.
Steemvoter Curation Guild
Question: Will it be using the votes even if the account is paused?
Answer: Yes it will, we will use the same code that votes our payment posts and that overrides the pause button, however if you want to be excluded for a short period from the curation guild you could opt-out and opt back in later.
Question: Opt-in vs Opt-Out
Answer: A few people brought up the concept of Opt-in vs our suggested Opt-out, the reason we suggested Opt-out is because there may be alot of users who signed up and since abandoned Steem but their accounts could still be used to upvote content for the community, also it is difficult to get people to take action, some may put it off and never get around to Opting in, which decreases the effectiveness of the guild.
If someone is really that against being involved I'm sure if they receive an email giving them 7 days notice to opt-out before we start the guild, that they would login and opt-out.
Question: What if we vote on @steempowertwins who already have visibility and on charity posts which certain users may not support charity.
Answer: It is surprising that there would be unwillingness to support charities, but this is a diverse community with many viewpoints and preferrences, maybe the following can be suggested:
- An email sent every time a Guild post is voted on so you can unvote if you don't like it.
- Perhaps we can add a blacklisted authors list so you can be excluded from voting certain authors you don't support
- As a variation to the above, perhaps have a tag blacklist, which means if the post has the tag "charity" that you blackllisted, your account wouldn't vote on that Steemvoter Guild curated post.
Regarding the @steempowertwins, Steemvoter gave them quite a lot of visibility, we believe we helped set them to trending and then the community took over and did the rest. We think the Steemlive show they are wanting to do is great for Steem, much like The Daily Decrypt video blog was good to put a spotlight on crypto projects. We would like to help support their initiative because their message will be simple and user-friendly for the retail masses.
If however you really don't like to support that sort of thing; the above proposed solutions could allow you to blacklist such authors.
Question: A private chat group is not that transparent, what else can we do?
Answer: This is a bit difficult at the moment, Steemit doesn't offer an easy to use on-chain group chat solution. Also the people in the channel would be trusted community members and professional curators such as @instructor2121 who has trail followers such as @charlieshrem and @cryptoctopus who trust his vote choices.
Steem itself is a delegated witness blockchain, where you put your trust in a select few who sign the blocks for you, so why not have a delegated group of people who make such decisions in a private chat channel, (private so links aren't spammed in and to maintain order) if you don't like chat channels you could always nominate someone you trust to join on your behalf to help select content.
Looking forward to further comments and discussion.
Steemvoter is a public curation bot with an easy to use interface, it truly is a bot for the people, making automatic curation on Steemit easy with just a few clicks.
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I cannot wait to use your unlimited paid premium option
Just incase you are not aware, right now there is no limit imposed :) Not yet.
I thought I read somewhere on the 16th you offer premium. Or switch to 50. I am using 25 slots, will think about it
Wouldn't a blacklist be based on opinion and then lead to censorship and possible sabotage of certain authors success?
it would be a personal blacklist, each user can potentially have his own blacklist of authors the guild must not vote on his behalf. But everyone else would vote.
Thanks for the response and explanation.
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Thanks for the positive feedback!
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Thanks so much!
This post has been ranked within the top 10 most undervalued posts in the second half of Dec 17. We estimate that this post is undervalued by $122.31 as compared to a scenario in which every voter had an equal say.
See the full rankings and details in The Daily Tribune: Dec 17 - Part II. You can also read about some of our methodology, data analysis and technical details in our initial post.
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I like the idea of a blacklist for authors and especially tags. But I don't see why the channel can't be open. As we have yet to see what posts are going to be supported by the guild I think there should be a little more effort on your part to listen to your (potential) customers/users.
Also I don't want to get emails everyday. The whole point of me using your service is so that I can forget about steemit for a few days. And therefore I don't want to have to come online everyday to check which post was guild voted. I would much prefer a list that was added to everyday, so that I can see 10 - 20 posts that the guild is voting for and then based on the choices within that list choose to opt-in.
Perhaps you could give 2 options, "opt-in" or "opt-out" and only after a MONTH, those who haven't chosen one or the other could be automatically opted in. That way we have a month to actually see a growing list of posts supported by the guild.