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RE: HF 19: self voting ahoy!

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

Hi Neoxian,

I upvoted this for the potential of an interesting conversation. Thank you for bringing it up.

I have the same reaction, and although my account is small compared to some in the conversation I do vote for my posts, and depending on circumstances my comments. (mostly to raise their visibility)

So, asking a challenging question. At what level should someone quit voting for themselves? (In my opinion, there is no "right" answer) Just trying to get a feel for the reaction.

I "lol'd" at your "disapproving stare". :)

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I think it can also become an issue when you are being delegated a bulk of your stake for curation purposes...then those votes go to yourself at much larger percentages than you're giving out to others.

It's like that Steem Guild issue all over again...

"One vote at 5% for you...three votes at 100% for me!"

I agree with that. The responsibility for it should be in the hands of the delegator to ensure their stake is being used well.

How about 50/50?
I talked on @neoxian about his sp rental or delegation. 50%/50% upvotes for me/others sounds fair to everyone. That gives me 10-20% interest on my investment on delegation if steem will have a stable value or good median value. If I'll make it 30%/70% upvotes, Im throwing so much love on the community but there's a 30-40% chance that I can't get my ROI to rent SP again.

Above all these, I am only giving 5$ or less with my upvotes. A value that's incomparable to a 50-100$ self upvote. And lastly, this is still a mere plan. :)

Do you mean 50% of your daily votes to yourself? If that's what you're working out with your delegator, then that's between the two of you. That's not something I would do though and I don't think it's very helpful overall. Why not just buy the stake yourself instead of renting it at high rates?

I have delegated stake. I've been using it mostly on others. I only post about 5 times per week on average and only rarely vote my own comments. When I do, its a low percentage. For my blog posts, I generally vote right around the same amount that I use on other posts...sometimes slightly higher. But again - I only post about 5 times per week, and two of those are contests where I give away the liquid rewards.

Even doing that, I'm making some very good returns. Upvoting myself at 100% while giving a small fraction of that to others would make me feel pretty dirty. I don't understand why people feel the need to do that, especially when they're using stake that isn't even theirs...that they didn't invest themselves. It just seems very cheap and greedy to me.

Hmm, that's a really tough question and there is no easy, cut and dried answer, like most other voting in Steemit, this is subjective proof of work.

Certainly the two extremes: never voting yourself and always voting yourself sound wrong to me. It's ok to vote yourself sometimes, as long as you don't do it too much, too often, or too high value.

I vote myself when:

  • I want visibility, to get my comment to float to the top, because I think it's really important
  • I want to speak with authority, like if I'm flagging someone for spam and explaining why.
  • And yea, i'll totally admit, sometimes I just want a few extra pennies from the system

The situation I describe above in my post just felt wrong to me. If kingscrown had voted himself 7$ and nnnhhh 7$, I would have been fine with that.

Great answer, and from a really honest place. I knew there wasn't (1) answer, so we are all just figuring this out. (I do the same)

I enjoy the conversation around it. I am getting close to the place where I need to define this for myself.

lol @ your 'disapproving stare' comment :)

All this and grammar correction! Love SteemIt.

lol no, no no you got me all wrong ....I 100% agree with your comment. I was laughing at those glaring eyes too.

lol, got it. :) Either way, I wasn't offended. I thought about changing mine. Enjoy. (laughing again)

I'm LOLing at these comments 😂

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