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RE: Disagreements, Name Calling, and Accusations - Code Of Conduct

in #steemit7 years ago

I listened to the ENTIRE pitch for the game. I responded on a couple of pages to people, but just because Matt is monetizing his and his team's work does not mean it's a con, it's a sales pitch for his seminars and service add-ons. I doubt that in any way violates ANYTHING Steemit represents or offers.
I honestly have no interest in signing up, nor enough money for, ANYTHING he's selling, but I REALLY doubt the game itself hasn't been really well vetted by Stan (as it's partnered with BitShares for this) and Dan both- AND IT'S FREE when it RTMs. THAT's not a con, regardless of how wonderful or crappy the game is.
I could say it SOUNDS like the seminars and add-ons are (in my opinion) massively overpriced for what benefits he touts they offer. But NOBODY's forcing you to buy in now, and you can play the game for free in a month, like everyone else. This is no worse than all the investment newsletters out there, and there's a REAL product it's based on.

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Actually I am actively helping the games development, and know all about it. And yes it has been vetted. But this community is very toxic, as is evidenced by this and other episodes.

People everywhere are toxic, toxic people are everywhere.
But not all people.
I think the principle of overwhelming the bad with the better is built-in, not bolted on, to Steemit.
How about you?

Keep on STEEMIN' with that even keel, Mike...

Track records are important.
Matt trainer has been sued before by previous clients.
When you Google him scam pops up next to his name. I don't doubt the game could be real but his attitude didn't help sell it either. I distinctly remember him dragging my name through the mud because I had questions. And telling me I was a weak ass loser.

You'll notice Mike called Matt's responses to you and others in the webinar unprofessional, too, and I DON'T think it was about your questions then, but shouted abuse on a lot of pages...
Keep asking the uncomfortable questions. If Matt gives people enough pause due to his behavior, the prelaunch stuff won't go much of anywhere. If the game's for real (it shows every indication it's real), stays free (that would be seppuku, I think, to charge at the door), and is well received, he STILL gets rich as he's bought a lot of BitShares, which will skyrocket if the increase in participation in Steemit and BitShares is anything like what's projected (and we KNOW Steemit membership is going to greatly expand ANYWAY, I don't even have a clue what the This Summer buzz is).

Something Stan mentioned several times and at least another person or two, it might have been the BitShares publicity blitz about the Hero, or Matt's game, or EOS (?), or something else entirely, I don't remember enough detail.

I'm going to look it up. I feel bad for Stan. He doesn't deserve this unless he knew it was a scam.

It's not a scam if there's a real game. @michaelx above says he's actively helping in developing the game, that it's real and fully vetted. Presuming that fact and the other points I mentioned, sleazy merchandising is NOT a scam. Telling everyone CAVEAT EMPTOR!!! is not slander, at all, either.

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