RE: What if somebody propagates terrorism on Steemit and gets a lot of upvotes?
@flodner unfortunately, Patrick writes oblagecently, according to your words, I see that you were not in Donetsk. In Donetsk itself, you can come and see yourself, like here and everything, you use the words aggression, I can very simply explain to you. here Britain wanted to withdraw from the European Union, held a referendum and left, and no one prevented it.
but now imagine the Donbass as Britain also held a referendum, and wanted to leave Ukraine, but Ukraine sent troops and started military operations against "its people" and then it became not profitable for the European Union and they came up with aggression, come and see how here in the Donetsk and who here ... with your own eyes, no one will touch you and no one will forbid to shoot if you are an independent journalist. never write about what you did not see and do not tell about the situation if you are 1000 kilometers away from it. With respect to everyone, this is my humble opinion and I have the right to write about it, because I am from Donetsk! But I live a peaceful life, because my compatriots from Donetsk defend. I will be happy to answer your questions
my blog is not about war, but I can not remain silent when people who defend their freedom are called bad words. The German media are afraid to write the truth about the Donbass, because they will be immediately closed down, and I know all about it and everyone is silent! Is this democracy? but the British are a brave people, they still have brave people who can tell the truth
the same thing happens in Catalonia, they declared their independence in a referendum and what? all put in jail! Because Catalonia is weak and you can do this to her !? With Donbass so it did not work? )))) And it will not work! Donbass protects its independence! I stress that this is my opinion and my opinion, and I have the right to it!
We Ukrainian people overthrew a corrupt ruler and if we achieve after this success this will be a very "bad" example for Putin's electorate! That's why the propaganda generously sponsored by the Kremlin inflates these delirious rumors about fascism, chaos and other provocations against Ukraine!
Is this your idea of success? Worship of WW2 Nazi collaborator Stephan Bandera and open use of the Nazi Wolfsangel flag by the people YOU support. This vid is from the Azov Battalions own You Tube channel by the way. Those Nazis are getting a free pass from You Tubes censors.
Stepan Bandera conducted a war in a concentration camp prisoners (great form of colobation). No one "pray" on him . It's historical figure, an ideological patriot of Ukraine who is respected for the fortitude of the spirit. He disliked the Communists and did the right thing (for this, the NKVD tried to demonize him), the war began with the partition of Poland between Hitler and Stalin if you forgot. Since ancient times, your kings and dictators have caused us Ukrainians harm and suffering. Stalin, who shed rivers of blood of his subordinate people, known dictator and executioner of the peoples, now places the monuments of the Russian Federation "because he grab a lot of territory and drowned Hitler in our blood". What a fine fellow!
You want AGAIN live with police club in your ass? No problem but leave us and our teritory alone with our heroes and fighters for freedom!
Yet he and his pro Nazi troops killed over 100, 000 Poles and Jews at Volhniya and Galicia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
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Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Date
March 1943–44
Ethnic Cleansing, Genocide
Deaths
35,000–60,000 in Volhynia, 25,000 or 30,000-40,000 in Eastern Galicia
Perpetrators
Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, Ukrainian Insurgent Army
The massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia (Polish: rzeź wołyńska, literally: Volhynian slaughter; Ukrainian: Волинська трагедія, Volyn tragedy), were part of an ethnic cleansing operation carried out in Nazi German-occupied Poland by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA)'s North Command in the regions of Volhynia (Reichskommissariat Ukraine) and their South Command in Eastern Galicia (General Government) beginning in March 1943 and lasting until the end of 1944.[4][5][6] The peak of the genocide took place in July and August 1943. Most of the victims were women and children.[4] UPA's methods were particularly savage,[7][8] and resulted in 35,000–60,000 Polish deaths in Volhynia and 25,000–40,000 in Eastern Galicia, for the total of between 76,000 and 106,000 casualties.
The killings were directly linked with the policies of the Bandera faction of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN-B) and its military arm, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, whose goal as specified at the Second Conference of the OUN-B on 17–23 February 1943 (or March 1943 according to other sources) was to purge all non-Ukrainians from the future Ukrainian state. Not limiting their activities to the purging of Polish civilians, UPA also wanted to erase all traces of the Polish presence in the area. The violence was endorsed by a significant number of the Ukrainian Orthodox clergy who supported UPA's nationalist cause. The massacres led to a civil conflict between Polish and Ukrainian forces in the German-occupied territories, with the Polish Home Army in Volhynia responding to the Ukrainian attacks.
If you observe this discussion Steemians pay attention on the content of they blog and messages this agenda @clarityofsignal and them owner @patricklancaster 5% meaning 95% try to push on your emotions...
So now, after losing the debate, you simply resort to the trolling behavior of putting up comical jpegs? I certainly hope your followers here on Steemit now see clearly who they are following. You see, Steemit is built upon credibility and backing up ones assertions with valid material and responses. The type of behavior you are now resorting to undermines the platform. So please, continue to make yourself and this debate known to others as you are helping make my points for me. :)
not everybody as you so professional in agenda bluffing =)
Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.
Great post @tandemus. Its about peoples right to choose their own path, and its also about exposing the EU's hypocrisy and murderous lies related to such. The EU has become a fascist entity that seeks to control people through violence, propaganda and deception.
you do not understand anything about what is happening judging by your statements, first Russian special forces seized power in these regions under the cover of local alcoholics colobarants dressed up by "rebels" and only then they conducted a fictitious referendum! As well as in the Crimea, as Putin himself admitted straightforwardly! At the moment, there is no talk about disconnecting or joining Russia (as the separatists dreamed of taking up arms), under pressure from the world community and sanctions, Russia tries to cram these entities into Ukraine by retaining its control over them, the leaders of gangs of formations. All this is happening in order to resume control and influence in Ukraine and not give to move towards development as an independent European state. And just to distract people from real problems inside Russia ...
I repeat, you were not in Donetsk, you did not see how the elections were held in a referendum, you do not know what is happening now! In order to see everything with your own eyes - come to Donetsk yourself and do objective surveys. You have no right to do any kind of reporting for 2000 kilometers from here. The Italian press works successfully here, they make reports in which I agree with something and what is not, but they are realistic, in contrast to your conclusions and theses, your information coincides with the false information of the media that are dependent on federal budgets European countries. Ordinary people go to work, work transport, even have established a mobile connection with a separate Donetsk capacity, these numbers have confirmed facebook, google.
Just come to Donetsk and look, talk with people, take an interview. And write the truth! But there is one danger, your many colleagues will begin to call you bad words, because there is such a setting for your media!
And in Donetsk very hospitable and fair people! I understand it hurts to find the truth, especially the one you do not believe in!
with respect, to all @tandemus
but you allow this agenda guy judge how hard nazi wase our revolution and ather even if they not be in Kiev...
sorry, I thought you were an European correspondent. You all know how it really is, but write the reverse - because it is profitable for you, then I do not see the point of communicating with you, I'm sorry, this is my right, I remain with respect to your opinion, ....
Thank you for understanding...
Crimean's seem real happy to be back with Russia after 70 years stuck in Ukraine. Particularly now that Kiev's fascist troops have been ethnically cleansing ethnic Russian Ukrainians. Or all all these Crimean people terrorists too? :)
so called Voting referendum going under gun of Russia spec forces, Putin and this operation leader Strelkov. They ALREADY CONFESS TO PUBLICK!
Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.
A little inversion on your part? Graphic video: Ukraine's National Guard opens fire on unarmed civilians in Krasnoarmeysk
Strelkov confession Video with Eng subtitles
The fact that dictatorial regimes love to organize mass events has been known to everyone and does not prove anything. People on this peninsula are hostage to the situation! Crimean Tatars are again subjected to repressions, along with you poverty, corruption and devastation have come there!
You jump from theme to theme laik stupid agenda bot usually do...
I can't come to Donetsk, as for everyone with pro-Ukrainian position it is a big risk. That's not a big problem for me, but I'm very sad that people whom I know who are originally from Donetsk - can't return there. if there would be a referendum - why are you so sure people from Donetsk would vote for independence or for entering Russia? What about lots of people who stand for united Ukraine but they can't raise their voice in Donetsk now because they will have problems?