A shitbird calling himself iamgod was posting material here that at the minimum danced it's toes over the child porn line; this led to a flagstorm on him...well deserved... that spilled on over to 3 other Steemers that had upvoted some of this material

No, I'm not linking his stuff. The debates on the links I'll share will give you an idea of what was going on.

The reason I am posting is to admit how fast I jumped the gun on action in this situation, and how I did not fully research before throwing my flags.

There is more to it than CP, tho...

Steemit's community standards are derived from a market of voting; some Steemers carry more voting weight than others. Post what you want, but a whale or a clique can bury you at any given time. Due to the nature of Steemit, this has led to several controversies that have been ongoing since I joined a year ago:

• censorship
• subjectivity and bias
• porn/ NSFW
• plagiarism

This incident highlights how these controversies play out, and that there are few obvious solutions to them via the system itself....the community standards ultimately are those set by the heavy hitters.

Let's look at this in action.

The posts

• @stellabelle identifies the scumbag whose posts are arguably CP, especially in looking at them as a whole, and who are demostratably plaigaism
  There is a Child Pornographer in Steemit User Name is @iamgod

• @titusfrost makes the argument that people who support CP should be flagged as well
  Steemit Pedophile Ring Exposed

• @therealwolf defends himself
  I feel humiliated and bullied

What was my part here? I reSteemed @stellabelle and @titusfrost, flagged the shitbird and the upvoters to the best of my ability, and moved on. The only verification I did was to look at a couple of the creeps' posts to make sure there was no flagrant misrepresentation; I didn't see CP, but I did see plagiarism and the selection of teen appearing models. I know MetArt verifies ages, so I knew those models, at least, were adult, but it was enough to convince me that it was very possible the others contained CP...or close enough to CP (more on this downpage) to feel comfortable in these actions

Censorship

One of the main draws to me on this platform is the lack of centralized control over what we post. HOWEVER, as noted, it is Steempower as wielded by the whales, or perhaps consortiums of voters, that can make a post and/or a poster disappear in effect. Of course, this overlaps with the idea of subjectivity, but there has always been the question of abuse of power (and there always will be).

My take? If you don't want to get slapped down by some one else and their fat pile of Steem Power, buy or earn your own; socialism/"equality"/parasitism will fuck this platform up faster than 1000 bad whales will

Subjectivity and bias

I'll start with bias, because that is where the subjectivity is going to come from. I know that one of @titusfrost's main areas of concern is in PizzaGate/PedoGate. The fakenews attempt to "debunk" Pizzagate is one of the reasons I began to follow him. My own view of Pizzagate is complicated, but I do consider the allegations to be plausible, and there has certaibly been no "debunking". Ergo, child abuse is going to catch @titusfrost's focus. @stellabelle has shared her own history of exploitation as a model. Both of them have been active on Steemit for a long time, and while I might not agree with them on more than a few things, neither has had a history of dishonesty on the platform.

I have two biases in this matter: Fist, I like women to be women, full breasted, bouncy butted, and wide hipped. Maybe it's not fair, but I find it hard to believe that men want to be with women who look like children physically. The second is two-fold; to begin with I already have a hatred for mala in se criminals...murderers, rapists, thieves, child molesters...which intensified after I downloaded some porn to my computer that was actually CP (it wasn't marked as CP, but that is what it clearly was). It was bad enough that some people do that, but they polluted me. I reported it to my friend and roommate, who was a cop, but there was nothing they would do about it. I am not joking when I say that people that create CP should be executed via a claw hammer

This returns us to subjectivity. Upon examination of the "worst case" picture uploaded(helping daddy), I see the girl as clearly about 12 years old; others, including @therealwolf , one of the upvoters I flagged, see her as being up to 20 years of age. This is borne out by the arguments on the three threads.

The question of subjectivity in deciding what gets flagged is borne out to the fullest possible here. Flagging over trolling, plagiarism, and spam pale in comparison to this because the perception of the piece of trash's feed and the argument over whether it was child porn or not

Porn

There are quite a few people here on Steemit that don't want porn allowed. I aint one of em.

Full disclosure, I ran porn sites and made some soft corn bondage from 2005-2010. I wasn't good at it, but it was fun (the time the handcuffs wouldn't come off the model LOL), and I even went to a convention. I went broke and changed careers, but it was my shot at the golden ring and I took it.

I love porn, I love naked chicks, and I love watching naked chicks doing fun stuff...but chicks means WOMEN, not little girls.

Hell, I like women dressed like cheerleaders and catholic schoolgirls myself, but only when they use clearly adult women...

I remember a porn actress who went by the stagename Lil Lupe; she was an adult with a childlike appearance; they shot her in child like settings in her dress and scene. She was ungodly pretty, but those were disturbing scenes because she LOOKED like a child

...which brings us to...

Yes, iamgod's feed was child porn

Steeming material that presents females that appear as children in sexual situations that emphasize their childish appearance isnt going to do the poster any favors; that is going to draw a spitload of bad attention, b/c it is creepy

Using a child-looking adult in clearly adult scenes, or use adult women in "teeny" shots, but using both elements should be on the no-no side

maybe some of the models are adult, but it is the appearance of exploiting children that is a problem...if it looks like CP, it is CP

And that is something that the people suggesting that the feed is not CP are missing. Yes, the MetArt models are adult. MetArt is a legal studio; they aren't going to be using children for sex models.

The models that iamfilth chose from MetArt were very young in appearance (very slim, small breasted); combine that with the very young clothed girls he posted and the captioning he used

this photo in particular had a model that looks like a child (I think IS a child) set with a child-like setting ..."helping daddy".

As a totality, he knew what he was doing.

Everyone has noted the plagiarism, so I move on...

The Fall out

@beanz contacted me re:@therealwolf and his plea to be heard. After a closer look at @therealwolf's statements and his other comments, I felt like @therealwolf was not knowingly supporting child porn. The other two accounts seemed to have dropped off the face of the earth, bu then again they looked like spam or bot accounts anyway. They'll pop off a few more rubles and get a new anon account.

So I removed all the flags I threw at @therealwolf, and to that gentlemen, I apologize for the stress I have caused. This is admittedly, a half-ass apology. I still see that girl as clearly underaged. By half-ass I mean that @therealwolf didn't deserve the shit he took, but considering the view I have of the girl in that pic as a child, I am not sorry that I took action, only that I didn't do more research into it.

Conclusion

Be responsible for what you post, be responsible for researching the actions you take, be responsible for the votes you cast.

There is a very fine line between "barely legal" type porn and CP; it might suit everyone's purpose to stay on the thick and obvious adult side of that line, especially here on Steemit

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