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in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

Is telling someone that you will be forced to defend yourself if they continue to attack you a threat?

I will defend myself according to the non aggression principle. I am getting attacked by 7 people by way of flag. I will not flag back as I don't belive in it and it ispointless to flag whales so I will defend myself with the only possible way I can.

I told the people attacking me to stop the attack or I will defend myself and they are claiming that is a threat and having other whale friends jump in and flag me. all they have to do is remove the flags and I wont have to defend myself.

if you look back at my last 2 posts u can see what the whole drama is about.

So long story short, I will defend myself from your whale flags by putting interical gay porn cartoons in the comment section of the person attacking me. they know this and only flag me more. the last person told me to bring it on and they want me to post gay porn on their comments.
lol

my rep is already going down and fast.

Is their any other way one can defend ones self from whale flagging besides filling their posts with gay porn in the comments?
they even have bots going after me.

This is the list of whales flagging me:

@onceuponatime
@abit
@fubar-bdhr
@zathras
@zatrhas
@beerbot
@elias15g
@simpleguy
@pfunk

@fubar-bdhr is the one telling me to do it. lol

lol defending people from someone that will defend himself if attacked. that's some logic there for u. lol

so all of steemit, does the non aggression principle hold any weight on steemit or is it bascally set up where anyone that is not a whale of a whale fluffer needs to just shut up and get out of the way?

Input would greatly be appeicated. I would also like to hear from @ned and @dan on where they stand on this as @ned has already said the original post that started it all was ok and did no need a nsfw tab. but they still flagged me and now because I said I will defend myself if they do not remove the flg the other whales flagging me for "making threats". so is it a threat to say you will defend yourself from attackers?

interical gay cartoon porn as a self defence tool in the world of steemit........... who woulda thought it would come to this on steemit.

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX!
cheers steemit!
100%steempower post.

EDIT:
she how this fool attacks me nonstop with all his bots. fucker likes poking bears I guess.
-smh-

Anyone can now make alt accounts and post gay porn in the comnts of the people flagging me and I will get the blame not you. so any trolls out there that want to have a fun at my expence can. and gay pron that shows up on the post of people flagging me will instantly be considered my doing.
lol
Hopefully they will just remove the attack so I will not have to defend myself as I have stated a bunch that I would prefer to just not get attacked.

@gorish has removed the attack flags so I have no reason to defend myself from them. I also told them thank you 3 times for removing them as I would rather not get attacked then have to defend myself from an attacker.

All the other flaggots keep flaggin

Edit:
just got a new flaggot attacking me, told them same thing and added them to the list of names. @elias15g .
also going to remove the name of people that removed the flag.

EDIT:
@pravusdie has removed all the flagging so I am no longer getting attacked from them and do not need to defend myself from them. I told them thank you and am removing them from the list of the people attacking me.

EDIT:
I got another newflaggot attacking me but this person/account was made today. just to flag little old me more.
@simpleguy is the name and I tod them the same thing. I will reply to everything they post on steemit with gay porn cartoons.

pay out is over before I wake up i think so I guess any flags on my posts and comments when I wake up will be receiving interical gay cartoon porn. I am only defending myself according to the non aggression principle. they were told if they attack me I would do this in self defence. I hope I wake p to no flags so I don't have to defend myself.

night steemit.

Edit:
@ pfunk is flagging my comments too, old them the same thing. follow ups in next posts that are already up.

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I've been watching your little show. To me, it looks like someone stuck their arm out, made a fist, you saw it, went running headfirst into the fist, then cried fowl play and started giving people ultimatums.

If you put gay porn in my comment section, I'd probably flag the post as spam, so it goes away... and call it self defense.

If you threatened me with your disturbing behavior first, then went on to do it... I'd flag the post but the flag would be directed at you, for trolling and harassment... and I'd call it self defense.

I have not put gay porn or any porn in anyones comments. I have only said I ill use that weapon as a self defence tool if the people don't stop the attacks.

if you have been watching the whole thing as you claim you would see I have not attacked anyone and only thing I have done is say I will defend myself the they contine\ue the swing on their punch and let it connect when pay out time has happened. till that point in time happened their flags are only threats they are not actual attacks yet.
that is why im telling them if the flag is not removed and they do attack me by letting ay out time happen with their flag on it that I will be forced to defend my self.

I don't know how you can take that as I attacked them first or am threating them.

the way you type and tlk is almost exact to one of the flaggots. interesting......

also the original reason claimed they are attacking me @ned has already said the icture was ok and did not need a nsfw tag. but you already know all of this as you hav been watching it all or so you say.

Funny your comment is not really anything to do with my question and more like your trying to white knight from a distorted perspective or as I said earlier maybe one of the flaggots alt.

I guess main question I am asking is:

is it a threat to say you will defend yourself from an attack?

because all I have done is say I will defend myself, everyone else is doing all the attacking and threatening.

even one person removed the flag, I thanked them 3 times for not attacking me and put it in the post that they are not someone I need to defend myself from as they only threatened me and when they realized I would defend myself they decieded it was not worth it to get knocked the fuck out by someone that can fight better then them. I respect that and the person for atleast being able to settle it with words instead of resorting to attacking someone and violating the nonaggression principle.

Show me the part where Ned actually said your picture was fine.

you will have to talk to @neoxian as he was the one @ned told that the post was ok without a nsfw tab.
as someone that has been watching the whole thing go down I would expect you to have seen that considering it was in the 2 earlier posts and a min point of how this is all an attack and a large reason why im defending my self from attacks, not threatening people.

also before I received a single flag neoxian and I had already argued about it and ned had already said the post was ok. so all the flagging came after it was cleared as not breaking the rules.

and the person that started it all of said "I don't care what @ned says" and flagged me. they are all upvoting each others comments and getting pay outs on my post that they flagged so I wont get any pay out on.

all in all the fact that ned cleared the post does not change anything. I am getting attacked for a cartoon that is critical of the steemit whale community, clear and simple. they will cling to anything to justifiy attacking me when I have done nothing wrong but not submt in fear to their threats and attacks.

manwhile you got all the flaggers attacking me claiming they are doing it because im making "threats" by me telling them if they attack me i will defend myself.

I didn't tell anyone to flag you. You did that to yourself.

it is not about the money it is about the principal

In one of your previous posts, you complained about the money.

You could have edited your post. They would have removed the flags. That's usually how it works. Instead, you threw a hissy fit and started writing essays threatening everyone, and received more flags.

Like I said off the start. I appears as if someone stuck their arm out, made a fist, you saw it, went running headfirst into the fist, then cried fowl play and started giving people ultimatums. It looks that way, because that's what you did.

You threw the first stone. I don't see why you're making such a big deal out of it. What did you expect? Did you think your post would go viral and everyone would applaud? A few people liked it, a few people didn't. We're all on the same playing field here.

A long time ago, I was flagged by a massive robot train. I wasn't given a reason. I wrote about it, explained the situation. I didn't start threatening everyone who flagged me. People had my back.

A long time ago, people were bitching back and forth about nudity here. Everyone compromised and came to an agreement. The nsfw tag is there now. You can share whatever you want now if you use the tag properly.

You say they only did this because you criticized whales... yet they clearly told you the problem was the tag. Had you used the right tag, and still received flags, then maybe you'd be correct when you say they only did this to save face.

Had you handled the situation professionally, you probably wouldn't be receiving the flags you're getting now, after the fact. This is all common sense. You're acting so innocent, yet, like you said, everything is right there on the blockchain.

Now you're starting to classify me as one of your enemies, when all I'm doing is giving you a different perspective. The way I see it. Nobody told me to come here and talk and I'm not defending anyone.

Anyway. Try to have a good day. I'm sure you'll find your groove here sooner or later, when you decide to.

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See. I took it differently. With the added context, where you're arguing one side and neoxian is arguing the other. It appeared as if neoxian simply gave up. Based on the actual context of the conversation, I have my doubts Ned actually commented to anyone about your specific image.

When someone starts cherrypicking to make their side of the story sound better so they can play the victim card more effectively, I start to lose interest in what they have to say. From the start, you've been doing that, or so it seems, from my perspective. I could be wrong, and I'm fine with that. Just letting you know how it looks from here.

I'm wondering why you didn't simply tag it as NSFW if you wanted the money so bad. I've seen others earn money sharing similar images, nobody flagged them, and it's not because of some tinfoil hat conspiracy. They simply used the right tag.

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Thanks. I might read it tomorrow. If I remember.

Hmm is flagging a form of violence?

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"Is telling someone that you will be forced to defend yourself if they continue to attack you a threat?"

No I would not define that as a threat. I'd define that as clearly defining and asserting a boundry that will be defended if violated (thus invoking the self defense clause of NAP). Boundries are healthy and a clear way of asserting one's self ownership and self respect. Freedom does not mean one is free to force one's presence on another or to interact with another that violates their will. Hence allowing them to set up barriers to undesired interaction. And if those barriers aren't respected then it's within one's rights to defend them.

sweet, tyvm for the input. it is good to know that others agree with me in a situation like this.

I really like the way you put it about boundries.
cheers and steem on.
xD

I woke up this morning and said to myself.."Today might be a good day for one of those bad days."
Feels like the old times when I used to use the term flaggots..So long ago.
Let me know if I can help brother.

lol it does feel like old times.
xD
I don't think there is anything you could do to help besides bringing the situation to others attention after shtf.
lol
it sure is entertaining atleast.

You've done enough.

I haven't even done anything yet.
LOL
You knew I would defend myself but you still went crazy with the flags.
you are in the wrong here so don't play the victim when I start defending myself in the public arena. you ad all the other circle jerk whales will know when I have done enough.

LOL yeah, give it a bit as im going to do this correctly but am not going to play dead while you whales attack me in groups. I said I will defend myself and I was not joking.
you all are in the wrong not me. take the tag issue up with @ned if you like as he is the one that gave an ok on the pt. me saying I will defend myself is not a threat so there is no other reason for you all to be attacking me. I did not crate this situation, you all have. im just going to put an end to it instead of playing your flag games, you now have to play my game flaggots.

hope you enjoy your comments sections and I hope you think back on how you could have saved yourself a lot of time and effort by not acting like a complete authorian douchebag.

The time has come for the minnows to learn how to kill whales. steempower is not our only option.

cheers flaggot.

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