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RE: Creating a more Secure, Fair, and Decentralized Steemit #1

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I think it takes away from your message slightly to use a paid voting bot to upvote your content when you are talking about such a thing being a negative aspect.

I'm not entirely convinced that having automated bots that push content for X amount of votes is a great thing either.

Perhaps lowering the value of a vote if it is repeatedly directed towards the same user over and over again, obvious botnetting should be located and diminished in effectiveness, weighting a vote towards original content could also be a thing, but it is very hard to gauge effort put into a post especially if it contains video or audio, but you can certainly curate based on words.

A referral system is not advised considering that even just recently there was a huge bandwith issue and new/small users were not even able to interact with the platform, throwing more users at this would just make that problem worse.

Spreading the rewards from witnessing would be a great thing, even out to the top 200 or on a work completed basis or work capable basis, rewarding the witnesses with the most possible transactions per second and bandwith proportionally to one another, incentivizing growth of capability instead of just pushing more votes at it.

Dropping off nodes that are not updated over time, say if you don't update within a week the votes that are pushed towards you start to diminish in effectiveness and so over a duration you will naturally slide out of the paid area and into the unpaid one, this would incentivize maintaining your witness node.

Also a reward system in terms of people who constantly power up / do not withdraw get a higher weighted vote than people who withdraw constantly, supporting the platform should give you a bigger stake when interacting with it IMO.

I can't really thing of anything else right now, but thanks for sharing and I hope you found some of what I put here helpful. :)

Much love, many peaches. <3

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I dont think it does. Bringing this to public attention was the important part.

Agree i think lower voting power for a same user could work but something else like # of random users should apply.

Or maybe something like if you vote with 10 other people on 10 of the same posts in a row your voting power goes down, but i also like the idea of trails in some aspects. So maybe if there are X amount of random users along with you it doesnt go down? This would take some thought

Steemit is going to add more users eventually or it will die so why would you not reward the person that actually brought them to the network?

The rest sounds good to me...

Referral system is easily game-able, and will just enable people to create 100,000 accounts and profit from it. The only way a ref system could work is to pay it out over time and from a share of say the curation/author rewards from the new comers posts. This will force at least some level of interaction on the new accounts.

Plus there is already a ref system to an extent in place, you get a portion of steem delegated to you upon sign up, and if the new comers like your content and are willing to support you they can click a button and show that support. Or follow you on steemian / steemvoter or something.

I don't know how it will die if new users are not added however, throwing more users at it when things are not set up just so seems like a bandaid solution to the issues of poor distributions and top heavy voting power.

I disagree. They can be divised.

I see 2 options for steem over time: it grows to critical mass and brings in real advertisers and investors or it dies...

In case you havent read -

Amazon Lures Publishers to New Social Network by Paying Them to Post
https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-lures-publishers-to-new-social-network-by-paying-them-to-post-1500482959

Only amazon though right? Lul

Wonder where they got that idea from. :D

Thoughtful ideas. What about a downvote button?

There already is a downvote button, it's called flagging.

Good to know. Looks like I've got some work to do.

I have some ideas on better means to an end for downvoting but steemit isn't ready for them yet.

I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on that. I think steemit may be more ready for it than you realize.

So THAT is what people mean when they say downvote here?

To me flagging and downvoting are kind of different

They are the same thing on steem it.

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