Limit the power GIVE us a chanse to become a whale !

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

 Why you want anarchy in Steemit ? Every world without rules it go to fails.  I get a bit bored and tired of the ideas of perfect world were every one have the same right or ideas to pay for vote . This cannot work - Never!!!!

 I will speak about several points here:

 1. equal power for every one : 

Result of this will be huge power of the many bot networks formed in steemit in the past year.

 2.Remove curation reward:  

Whales will stop up vote, masses of people will up vote short funny stories because of entartayment. Serios topics will day. You need other Facebook ???

 No one will power up or colect steem power because dasunt bring nothing.

 Don't lie every one is here less or more because of interest.

 3. How many of you really bring here investors ? How many of you really invested ? We don't speak about 1000 dollars or 1 btc ..............in fackt most of us power down !

 4. You want steemit to be great place so make it it's up to you !!!!!

 5. Instead of be selfish and think about your interest think how to help steemit .

 I have post already my propose several times but because I am no one ............ it stays forgotten. For pure person like me the only stimul  to invest is to reach some goal. Example - if i have 100 000 steem my vote will be 0.05 sents or ........ 

My propose is :

limit the power

A set up cap of vothing power that counts !

If you do this many of us will have a goal to reach. Example i want to reach the dolphins ok  I must invest 5 or 10 000 dollarss or create good contents . Want to be a whale i have to invest 100 000 or 200 000 than will have the same power of vote or i need  reall good posts and i need to 

save my power .


Give the people BETTER stimul to invest here , don't get the rewards of people who already invested !!!!!!!!!!!!

If you can make all this people in steemit to stop power down prise will go a lot up , this will bring more intres and new investors . This new investors will bring even more value of steemit.

And we all will have a goal to reach !!!

I want to become a whale some day !!!


Im sry for all tipos i did , pased this tru translate and also tru http://www.onlinecorrection.com

Do not upvote this better engage and comment !!!!!

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Not doable - why should the power be equalised - you think the whales just give their investment back to all of us for free?

Soon thay will , look at the price whales awredy lost . Wen the price hit 0 non of this will matter :) Now this platfor work so 10 or maybe 100 people invest and the rest benefit from it . How this is doable ?
This remeber me of article i made in the past caled - Why i power down ? I had some responses like You will see how grate will be Steem in 6 months - OK this 6 months are overpased and not go better. Seems to me evry one fokus on how to benefit autors , or how to earn more but the reall problem is -HOW to make people to invest ? Wen somthing benefit you for free is easy to join wen you pay for it you need to think wise .........

We will see what happens @patelincho - I do agree we need more people to invest. Sure there are some plans from the management to cover this - let us see how HF 17 will change. All the rest is pure speculation.

And i dont see any whale to comment ............ so idk what thay think about . All coments are from free users so far !

Im sry but here is late night will answer on comments in the morning. have a great time all of you

You have a good point. If you want more equality then limiting the power a whale can have over the network sounds like a good idea. Many people would call that idea communist garbage and hate it. I don't know how I feel about it really. Even if "financial power" is limited by "rules" there always seems to be away to break the rules. (botnets, sock-puppet accounts, money laundering and so on)

Thank you for comment . Break the rules we will have but this not go to bring much influense if there are people to stend ageans. Also if i have 5 acc wit over 200 000 dolars in it how this is bad ? Is not show i belive in steemit and i power all this acc up ? In world were we have 20 huge whalses this look like a problem but imagine 100 000 whale around ?

Technically it is only possible to limit power of a member/user/investor by forcing identification. I think most people in the crypto currency world want to be anonymous. When not forcing identification, a member can open many accounts and spread investments and power across all those accounts. Since Steem/Steemit is anonymous, this will happen when limiting the power per member account. I'm in favour of identification, then your idea of limiting power is possible. But forcing identification requires first to convince Steemit INC to agree to that.

Forcing identification would indeed be effective in limiting the power per member. But I think if a user can't be anonymous on Steem, then Steem can't really be censorship free.

Although I'm not a software architect or software developer, I think a solution could be to route vote request to a 3rd party entity who does the ID mapping; that entity should have mappings of real identity to al the user IDs (no idea what this will do to performance such as response times but I guess this can be very quick with sufficient computing power, database speed, and internet bandwidth). The data shall be encrypted in the database, so nobody can have a look at it. That entity will not be open (ie not decentralised and information not on a blockchain), therefore such entity shall be somehow 100% trusted. Such entity could be run by people that get elected by Steemit community and every so often re-elections are held. Maybe some 100% technical solution is possible, but I'm by far not the right person to be able to design a workable solution. But my gut feel says that somehow a solution can be created for this 'issue'.

I've also thought about some how routing the ID verification to other users who will not know what account the ID is verifying. I'm also not a developer, but I think that could be a fairly simple task. The system could also "test" users with fake IDs to make sure that accurate verifications are bing made by said user. But how would we ID people from all around the world? Would we use social security numbers, passport numbers, fingerprints? I don't really like the sound of any of those options.

Maybe start with government databases, like the department handling passports? Also credit card companies, and banks? In the long run these entities shall be taken over by new things, an entity that handles identity management across the globe, but for now established companies handling identity management can become partners I think, or?

I personally wouldn't be using Steem right now if I had to get verified through my government or bank. I would prefer to have the community do the verification. Either way I think if Steem accounts had to be ID verified, then it would be possible to limit the max power of a wale. If we can't stop a user from creating massive amounts of accounts then there is no point really in trying to limit max power.

Thank you for comment . Im not going so far , my point is to limit the power per acc . If somone like to have 3 , 4 ,or 5 fine but in world were is 100 000 this is not a big issue. Also isnt this a way to convince the auditory to colect steem power and not sell ? It will be not easy to build multiple acc over 200 000 dolars limit right ?

Some members already have mulptiple accounts. All can be done automatically, ie another user interface with some software code login in to all the accounts and executing whatever rules the owner gives. So yeah, it is easy to have and control 2, 3, 4, or 100 or even 1.000 or more accounts.

Control yes but will you power up 1000 acc to 200 000 dolars ? And if yes GOOD for steemit and steem prize - right ?

200.000 dollars for an account is already whale league, and some of use have it here on Steemit, giving other almost no power. but yes, if the limit would be 200.000$ per account and I want to put 200.000.000$ into Steem, I would indeed create 1.000 accounts for that.

My opinion is that a human person is allowed 1 account, or multiple accounts but known to everyone that that person has multiple accounts and which accounts that are so that rules applied to the human person can be controlled at the combined account level (maybe that could be kind of anonymous but I'm too less a technical person to know what is possible by technology and what is still not possible). In such world when a power limit to 200.000$ would exists, I would decide to invest my 199.800.000$ in some other blockchain, company, enterprise, or whatever, when it is allowed by the 'government' rules. And even when I personally would not do that, other people will do it, that is what we have to learn from mankind, we always have people who sit at the boundaries of what is allowed and always will sit at those boundaries.

And if yes GOOD for steemit and steem prize - right ?

Correct, good for Steem price, but not good for who has control, since someone coming in with 200.000.000$ spread over 1.000 accounts will have 99,99%+ of voting power in the whole group, ie can act as a dictator!

Good points here will think about .

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