Randowhale analysis! --- plus --- 🐋@randowhale vs 🚀@booster vs 🐳@bellyrub

in #steemit7 years ago

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Changes are coming to @randowhale! Before they arrive I've made a quick analysis of the current @randowhale upvote bot which I'll summarise over today and tomorrow. In this post I've expanded yesterday's analysis to look at how @randowhale currently compares to @bellyrub and @booster. Which offers the best value for your hard-earned SBD?


This is an update on my analysis of the main upvote bots. I've been looking at @bellyrub over the last week. I talked about @booster yesterday. Today @randowhale. You can visit my blog @miniature-tiger or the #upvotebots tag for my other analyses.

This project was undertaken to aid my learning of SQL. These stats are based on the data in sql.steemsql.com, a fantastic tool run by @arcange. As always, many thanks for making this available!


Reminders


  • At the end of the day, the key things to focus on are the quality of your posts and your engagement with the community. In the long run, these will determine your rewards on Steemit.
  • The main purpose of upvote bots is to give your work visibility. Getting your beautifully crafted post launched onto the hot list or the trending list can help to get it seen by more people who may share your interests. The "value-for-money" is far from the main story.
  • Please remember that the returns from auction-style upvote-bots (i.e. @booster and @bellyrub) are not guaranteed. They are dependent on the amount of bids made in the window, by individuals competing in the auction. Your post may receive less of an upvote than the SBD you have bid.

Comparison for Saturday 23.09.2017


I'm reporting the comparison first as it's probably the most interesting result. The study covers Saturday of the week-end just gone. It's a simple comparison of the post upvote value / SBD bid results for the nine auction windows for each of the two auction bots (@booster in silver and @bellyrub in blue) and the average post upvote value / 0.5 SBD price for @randowhale (in orange).

This comparison excludes the Secondary Return from which @booster benefits, the "Frontrunner Curation Guild". I'm still looking at this.
For consistency it also excludes the randowhaletrail and randowhalebonus secondary upvotes which were both running on Saturday and which can make a quite significant addition to the @randowhale return.

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Conclusions

  • The @randowhale average returns for each awake period were consistently over 200% (with the exception of one very short period which only had eight upvotes) and were higher than for the two auction bots.

  • The randowhaletrail and randowhalebonus secondary upvotes (which are not shown here) were adding around 30% to these results on Saturday (these are a bonus and do not always run).

  • @randowhale also provides a pretty-much immediate upvote, allowing you to capture the 25% curation on a new post. This difference to the auction bots is not included in this comparison.

  • Being random, different posts will receive different levels of upvote from @randowhale; posts do not receive the average. I'll include a breakdown of the different returns for each upvote level tomorrow and the probability of receiving each return.

  • @randowhale was asleep quite a lot - these are the gaps in the orange line (I assume this is the case. It's based on the timing of upvotes. It's possible he was awake but not upvoting, doing whatever randowhales do in their spare time).

  • Discussion of @bellyrub and @booster results can be found here. There is one very low atypical result for @booster (fourth window) which should be ignored.


Key differences between upvote bots to help explain the above


A few key differences between @randowhale and the auction-bots (@booster and @bellyrub) that are worth bearing in mind for the purposes of this analysis:

  • The upvote you receive from an auction-bot depends upon the amount of bids made by individuals in a particular auction window. The returns on @booster and @bellyrub thus vary from window to window across the day. With @randowhale you receive a random upvote percentage (currently between 1.6% and 5.2%). So the return you will receive varies from one use to the next, by chance, but these parameters are typically fixed across the day and not dependent upon anyone else's bids. The average return for @randowhale should thus remain pretty steady across the day, although it will vary with the underlying steem price (and clearly with any changes made to the parameters).

  • The SBD bid for @randowhale is fixed at 0.5 SBD. @booster and @bellyrub accept unlimited bids.

  • The upvote from @randowhale is (pretty much) immediate, assuming he's awake! If you launch @randowhale directly after posting your article, this immediate upvote allows you to capture (most of) the 25% of the bot upvote that would otherwise go to curation. This 25% is almost impossible to capture with auction-bots as the upvotes are not made until the auction window closes. Basically, the upvote from @randowhale could be worth 25% more to you as the author than an upvote from @booster or @bellyrub.
    [explanatory note: 25% of a post's value is reserved for curation rewards while 75% is retained by the author of the post. However the curation rewards from upvotes in the first half-an-hour after posting are split between the author and curation according to a linear scale. So 100% of an upvote made immediately after an article is posted will be received by the author; 87.5% of an upvote made 15 minutes after posting will go to the author with 12.5% for curation; 75% of an upvote made 30 minutes after posting (or later) will go to the author with 25% to curation.]


Further work


  • More details on @randowhale tomorrow.
  • @booster frontrunner curation guild analysis also to come soon!
  • @minnowbooster analysis
  • A final comparison and conclusions of how best to use the upvote bots

Let me know what you think would be useful!


Final notes


I note that I have no affiliation with @randowhale or @booster or @bellyrub (or any other upvote-bot) and my analysis is entirely independent.

That's all for today. Thanks for reading!


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my preference in order is randowhale and minnowbooster basically tied, then bellyrub, then booster / upvoted / resteemed

Hey. I think that's going to be pretty much the order once I add in minnowbooster. Particularly as randowhale and minnowbooster are immediate rather than delayed so give the opportunity to capture the curation 25%.

The benefit of bellyrub and booster is that they have greater capacity for people that do a lot of boosting, or who want very large boosts.

yes, good points

Thanks for the info!

The only one I use on occasion to swap SBD for Steem Power is @Minnowbooster. 5$ gives back around 8$ on a consistent level.
The only thing I dislike is the big post they make in the comments.

Hey @costanza. No worries. It's been interesting for me to get to grips with the SQL database.

I'll add in @minnowbooster. I expect that it'll sit in between randowhale and bellyrub. At 100% power it would be higher so I'll try and track its power is likely to grow back or is being drained.

nice post, personally I prefer to use randowhale, then minnowbooster (due to big reply posts) and then the auction upvote bots
The big advantage indeed is having the intial boost in visibility to your post that puts it a bit higher in the hot/trending section:
Big drawback for me for randowhale is that its an american bot, so it runs on US time and sleeps a lot during european time, If i had the seed money I would try and set up eurowhale

The initial visibility is a good point. Thanks, I hadn't fully considered that! I think that the "hot" section algorithm works on both "post value" and "time elapsed" metrics, so the sooner you can get upvotes on to a post, the better.

As a follower of @followforupvotes this post has been randomly selected and upvoted! Enjoy your upvote and have a great day!

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