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RE: Berkeley Riots And New Steemit Changes

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

Yes I agree, the terms 'trolling' and so on are far too vague, get rid of it and just make it so that only spammers, virus posters and scammers are a worthy flag target because as far as I'm concerned if you're against censorship that's really all you should care about.

The biggest problem I've ever had with nearly all community sites that have either gone to shit or are going to shit is that the rules are so vague they let anybody come up with excuses to do whatever they fuck they want, especially mods, be extremely specific so there is no room for people to make up their own interpretations.

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I would think they would be watching other social networks and trying not to do whats proven to kill a site.

Calling it a free speech anti censorship platform at this point is a joke.

imo atleast as I am always dealing with whales trying censor me. lol

It looks like to me that you have decided to throw aside any monetary reward this account could have to stick it in some of the whales' eyes on the censorship issue.

I am almost afraid to applaud you for this. Sometimes you take it too far from my point of view, but it's your account. Posting those sick cartoons was funny, but it wasn't going to win you any points in either a power struggle or in an attempt to change minds.

It was that scene from Braveheart where the Scots lifted their kilts and pointed their asses at the English. Some of those asses got an arrow in them.

The reality of it is that nobody can go vote-to-vote with a whale unless they are a whale themselves, and survive on a payout basis. If we want financial reward, then we have to submit to the informal rules, and hope that a whale doesn't target us, or then if that happens hope we get a guardian angel whale.

So I don't think your strategy of confrontation will work, or to change any minds. But I'm not going to lecture you about it either ;>

I've spent enough of my own life tilting at windmills to tell anyone else where to point their damn lance.

For the rest of us, we either become whales ourselves if we want to change the rules that Steemit runs by, or we live by the rules that are set...and maybe we drop a vote on skeptic now and then!

I didn't choose to be a target of the whales.

I liked it better when I wasent getting flagged because some whale didn't agree with my opinion. its fucked up censorship.

1 fight the abusive power trip whales
2 whale
3 whore to whale for very little money (like a pet, court jester)
4 new to steemit or doesn't understand whats going on
5 bot or alt account
6 trying to sneek by under the radar.

did I miss anybody?

just look at the view to upvote on the "new" thread: large upvoted/payout posts within an hour old. you will see around 100+ upvotes with under 8 views.

The number of active users is really low compared to what it looks like. imo atleast.

I didn't choose to be a target of the whales.

Yeah, I understand that. You didn't back down... and you escalated. I aint criticizing that. Your choice.

For me, I'm just going to post what I want to post, and hope for a whale hit now and then.

If a whale did target me, I'd be fucked. The community cant do jack shit about that situation, and I dont think it should either...tyranny by mob isnt better than tyranny by despot.

There is no perfect system to prevent tyranny or censorship. Steem Power here is what it is. The devs made their views on flagging pretty clear - it counts as a downvote.

Shitheads are always going to use whatever power they have to silence opposition. If a whale is a shithead, what are you going to do? /shrug

I don't have any solutions either, other than to be a whale. Not so easy if you aint got cash to buy in. (I did put some money in, but not whale money)

So here is the one thing I will criticize you on: when you call them out, either by name or putting up those pics, they are going to target you or spend more time targeting you.

I hope you get a guardian whale, but past that, I don't know what to say...good luck??...try option 6???...do what you think is right??

there is a simple solution but the whales don't want it.

make a down vote that doesn't effect pay out, visbility or rep and have the flag for bot upvote abuse, child porn, copypasta and abuse of the flag for any reason that is not ment for.

Then if someone is flagging someone they have to answer as to why to all of steemit and the whales if word gets out they are abusing it. then the whales could dflag that person back and it would be justified. but then the whales might have to deal with the otr whales that like to censor people and steal pay outs because they don't like someones opinion.
idk seems simple to me.

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