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Deceptively Optimistic Self-Shilling Posts Hurt Steemit

in steemit •  last year

"I am so excited! I have been in the platform for X days and I have made X amount of money. Look at my stats. I am no.X on steemwhales with X amount of followers. You can do it too!"

Well, not exactly...



If you have been on Steemit for a while then you must have stumbled upon this daily dose of digital herpes. These posts might have seem great for people back in the early 2000's but they don't really work today. Sensible individuals with an I.Q ranging above room temperature don't buy it.

The author making this kind of posts purposefully milks a superficial enthusiasm for easy cash. Since both the newcomers and the whales will upvote on what seems a "positive" post, nobody really finds anything wrong about the act. The matter of fact though is that it will take the average user about a week to realize that Steemit is not a unicorn farting rainbow cash. Irreversible platform abandonment will follow. You can bet your ass these users will also share the experience with their friends. In the meantime, the pool rewards along with Steemit's fragile reputation gets lost in the black hole of shilling that we have created and actively promote as a community.

Exuberant advertising posts usually come from privileged users that never really had to do walk the bumpy road towards the top to begin with. Much like in any other industry in the real world, these are usually early adopters that managed to do the right connections at the right time. Everything else rolled out pretty much by itself. Best case scenario, these posts look similar to photoshopped products advertised by companies like McDonalds. They will superficially attract tons of people for easy revenue but not those who can see beyond the kool-aid.

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McDonalds doesn't mind this because all mouths chew much the same. Steemit though is not McDonalds. We don't sell mass produced cheap burgers. We have the monumental task to try and compete with other social websites that already have good content and credibility. One marketing tactic does not fit all. This senseless shilling mentality should not be so hastily pushed from those who control the reward pool because they actually end up hurting their own investment in what seems good promoting content.

Outrageous claims about making easy money is a guaranteed recipe for failure since they raise all the warning flags about a scam. The situation much resembles a car salesman trying to push an overhyped delivery car to a skeptical buyer. The seller gives you the car for free as long as you drive it in order to deliver his goods for a small percentage of the profits. All you have to do is just drive around. The skeptical buyer might entertain the idea at the beginning to get the car but after a week driving they will return it. Not only they will realize that the car does not deliver as promised but he will notice that a handful of other drivers seem to be taking advantage of his route, collecting more for themselves.


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Wouldn't it be better to let the customer decide what the car is all about? Isn't what the free-market — we so proud ourselves — stands for? Recycled cheap marketing tricks that we read in self-help books might have worked a decade ago but people are starting to wake up. They have worked so well that everybody is using the same tricks. They are as old and expired as door-to-door sales.

At the end of the day the people who will fall for this level of marketing will be the ones whom we don't really want to attract in a young platform to begin with — not at least before wide adaptation. A content creation platform that rewards good content needs actual good content creators first and then the rest of the crowd can follow. This is how the masses will actually acknowledge the rewards in the trending page. They quality bar will be higher, functioning as a quality meter for those who want to improve their game.

Half the comments we see on Steemit posts are either straight up sucking up to the author or batshit crazy. Worthy content creators that are "sharp" in identifying superficial content fillers will stay away once they witness this level of authorship in our platform. Meanwhile, gullible and naive believers that know the basics or kissing ass will flock for a quick buck and disappear even faster when the price drops. This is exactly the environment that they need to help them flourish. And guess what. We went through this phase once so far.

A respected author that wants to migrate from medium to Steemit will get immediately disappointed if they see self shilling posts earning thousands. The best advertising for Steemit is good content from every possible tag — not 70% content from the crypto world. Let's face it folks. We had a year to attract the crypto crowd. Those who were interested joined already and those who left ain't coming back unless they are going to make a cheap quick buck. Promoting more and more crypto-related posts will just make the platform look alien to good authors who are just getting their feet wet with the whole blockchain thing.

This is really a no brainer. A few people in here really have the power to change completely the flow of content but only a few are doing it properly. Part of the reason is the massive dead weight of crypto-related baggage that the platform has to carry from the past. Who would have thought. Some of the innovators and early adopters have become the new version of conservatives.

In competing place like Reddit, Quora and Medium good content shines through — by itself. The stakeholders of those companies don't push their own agenda so that the trending page will be filled with their own interests. These places have a real free-market economy were users give rise to the content that relates to themselves — not a whale plutocracy with vested interests.

An average user earning thousands every month on self-shilling content (when under normal circumstances would probably earn him the dick in his hand anywhere else on the internet) will make any respected author run away. No surprise that after a year of promoting and inviting top tier authors not a single one has sticked around. This excludes of-course other the anarcho-bullshiters who powered down and vanished once the price dropped. Talk about walking the talk huh?


2017 arrived with the Chinese market boom and we repeat the same exact mistakes, actually believing we are doing something "right" because new empty accounts and bullshit comments sky-rocket. A simple market crash bitch-slaps us back to reality quite fast whether or not the platform holds real value or whether we are pawns in the larger market scheme. Are we really that blind? Why continue this stubbornness and keeping the platform so inclusive to specific crowds? It makes one wonder. Are we purposely rewarding specific content to boycott ourselves from the outsiders in order to satisfy a small circle of insiders? Do some people actually hurt the community in order to keep the profit themselves?


Kind reminder that self-critiquing posts from Steemians that have been around since the very beginning demonstrate actual credibility to newcomers. It shows how the community is willing to improve by tackling its own mistakes. Self-shilling posts only sweep the dirt under the rug, hoping it will go away.











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I'm new here; I am a content creator, and I have many other similar friends I can invite here. I am not inviting anyone yet. Most of us know nothing about crypto, reddit, medium, bots, or any other thing like that. 95% of my friends would never make this huge effort and would hate me for asking them to try.

We blog, or write books, or take photos, or film videos to make a point, sell a product, or try to reach and help people. I have a few niches but those are the common traits of my connections. The huge learning curve is too big of a hurdle for anyone already doing ok in their work so I'm laying low at the moment as far as callouts to join steemit.

I came here for the alexa ranking. Now I'm not sure if it is fake. After a month I have a lot of misgivings about a lot of aspects of this site, though I am still here trying to make it work.

I kind of like some of the "WooHoo! I did this accomplishment" posts because they give me guidelines, goals, and information about what milestones to shoot for. This place is so confusing and I am grateful any insight I receive.

It interests me to read that you have gotten some heavy hitters here who then leave the platform. I can see why and each morning I wonder if I should not get back to any number of projects on hold for this effort. I came in with a little flood of ex-tsusers and most of them have gone silent although some are doing well or still learning like me.

I am still a minnow swimming and probably will continue for another month. So far I am only posting into challenges for the most part as a learning technique, and I have not posted or linked to much of my main content.

I'll be doing some of that in the next month as well as posting my steemit posts out to social media in cycles. In this first month, I have come to realize that my goal should be to get google search traffic and not worry too much about what happens with the 200K+ steemers (How many are active?)

I'm going to see if I can drive traffic to my work. I am ok with seo; and now I "sort of" know how to make steemit posts that look good. I have not had such an opportunity before with a great alexa ranking like this and no censorship, so I feel hopeful.

At least my steemit posts go out to social media with great visuals and clickable links. Many other platforms cannot even manage that and so tweeting a post is a waste of time.

I really appreciate your insight, and I learned a lot from reading your post. Thank you.

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My advice is to keep writing good posts and try to contributed into solving these problems by getting together with like minded people. Steemit right now is a risky investment when it comes to someone's time. If you have been on facebook and instead you spend the same time here then it is fine. If not, I would advice you to tone it down until the platform solves some fundamental issues. Steemit is not a job substitute.

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Thank you for that interesting advice and I will definitely keep it in mind as I am here. I do use fb for traffic a lot and have stopped about 80% of that work for now.

Which of the fundamental issues do you think are most critical for me to pay attention to or that need to be solved to make this a good place to be?

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Focus on comments. They create a good following which will get you attention in your posts. If I was starting just now I would make a post twice a week and spend 2 hours everyday on commenting.

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That makes me happy to hear. The majority of my time is on commenting and I will definitely continue. It's the only way I learn or connect with new people or the people I already know who are here.

The posts can be very eye opening even if they take a lot of effort to comprehend. My posts definitely sink like a stone - but you can find them on google which makes me happy. I got traffic to you tube as well. These results are what keeps me going here.

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@fitinfun, I'm trying to do the same thing you are, but much more tersely.

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lol - It's hard to beat me on verbose. I never talk in person though :)

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I'm at the bottom of the thread!!! Woo hoo. It's cozy down here :)

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Just 2 hours? And how many realy meaning coments can be done? I dont think more then 5-10 , as far you should read the post and think it over.

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If you have been on facebook and instead you spend the same time here then it is fine.

That's exactly what I've been doing tbh, allocated probably 20% of my fb time to this place, nothing to lose...nd 100% agree that spending huge amounts of time is as risky an investment as buyint thousands of steem!

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CHAIN GANG WE EVERYWHERE!

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I feel very similarly to you - I am a professional writer and know a LOT of people in the writing community - especially horror and science fiction. A lot of them are professional editors, teachers, and freelance writers who would love to make some extra cash. But most of them are not that tech-savvy and trying to plunge into steemit without any prior knowledge of crypto would frankly, be a confusing mess of a nightmare.

I'm lucky in that I've done research on cryptocurrency in the past year and already knew how it worked. But things like wallets, block-chains, encryption, exchanges, and the differences between currencies takes time to figure out and isn't immediately obvious. I can't in good conscience recommend the platform to friends because of it.

I think that's why we get the glut of crypto-related posts and there seems to be a lack of quality, professional writers. For the amount of money you get, it's just too much of a hassle for most people to do the research.

I've done the "shilling" posts, but they don't really bother me unless that's all I see in a person's feed. I admit they provide little value to anyone who isn't already a fan of the author.

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My Mother USB a professional writer am deathly I have been trying to get her on here, but I worry that her post s will fall flat and she'all be out. I told her to get on here for a little while, poke around, comment, see what she likes, before putting be a LOT of time into creating content that might not get many views...

OH MY GOODNESS! This is the BEST post I have seen on any platform period. All true and should be heeded, or else Steemit runs the risk of becoming a graveyard of ignored and abandoned quality posts and troves and troves of shit posts.

You say, "Steemit is not a unicorn farting rainbow cash". You can say that again! I am a witness to that but I will keep being consistent with posting and that of good quality, whether a post is a long, researched post or a meme. I always go for quality.

And as far as too many people only voting to kiss ass, it really is discouraging to authors, like myself, who work to create quality posts because it tells me that the massive upvotes will only come when my steem power is up enough to where my upvote is worth more to people leaving comments.

This site could so upset sites like Reddit if the true content creators were given a chance, whether they have 100 SP or 100,000 SP. Capitalism in this platform will not sustain the platform. Minnows need to have a chance to have some level of success, if they are truly deserving and put out good content. Think about it. If a whale puts out a post and that post is voted up by 1,000 minnows and say 1 dolphin, then how much would the post earn without the minnows?

I have some serious ideas for the next hardfork, for sure, but I doubt that I'll submit them because I just don't believe it would do any good.

I'm very discouraged.

But, yeah, thanks for posting this.

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Comments like yours help to get the issues on the front line which is the first step. I have been making similar posts since the very beginning last year and some recommendations were indeed implemented at least for a short while.

There are really 10-15 whales that we need to convince to sit together and really see the simple reality about what is good for the platform in the long run.

Keep writing good content and try to use the guilds like @curie to get more visibility.

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Thanks a lot for the information! I'm always on the lookout for what to do regarding this issue.

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Keep writing good content. I like that. I've seen a few more like you that say to just consistently write good stuff. I especially like the part of about allocating more time for comments than posting. I can see the logic in that. Thanks.

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Apparently, most problems will be solved when the minnows increase STEЕM POWER

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Yeah, that about sums it up, I see.

You're spot on, as usual. It's tempting to post vapid, self-congratulatory bullshit on a platform like this, and even easier to get distracted by "successful" people doing it.
I try not to and I admire everyone who succeeds in providing real value instead of the digital equivalent of fast food.

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It is easy to take the easy road but I think it's not worth it.

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It's not. I admit I posted random shit when I first started on this platform, because I just struggled to figure out what to use it for, but I've since decided I'd rather NOT post than post something that I feel has no value.

I still need to figure out what kind of content I want to share(mainly which topics I'd like to write medium-length blog posts about), but until then I'm just not posting instead, and only writing comments and giving upvotes where I feel it contributes in a meaningful way. I don't want to be part of steemit's digital fast food problem.

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this is probably wise if you don't have the right connections. Good comments create a good following and earn you some rewards as well.

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I agree with you @somergermannerd ( that's a long alias). Anyway, I must admit I also started posting sh*t just to get some followers but then i realized it's going away from the real value of quality content sharing.

Most if not everyone posting crazy stuff just to get the attention of steemit community, to receive that .001 from minnows or if you get lucky some $ from whales.

Everyone is rewarded for simply being here that's great right?, but will also hurt the community in a long term. We don't want to be a community of spam comments. I received comment that doesn't have meaning to my post and I have no way to vote it down so quality comment is up there.

In our business website, we also rewards community members for their actions through points then convert to crypto currency but we also deduct points for spammy comments, bad behavior, etc. And I hope steemit community will have a way to implement this approach.

We all want to make this community succeed, but we need to have quality stories to tell and sanitize comments to keep a healthy community. What do you think?

Thank you @kyriacos for starting this discussion.

Follow me @Yehey

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@yehey how about writing a bold warning at the end of every post saying in effect that spammers are discouraged here and every unrelated or spam comment here will be flagged ...and actually doing it? 🤔 🙄 😲


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The problem with that, as I see it, is the bots and abuse and spam are so out of control here one would effectively use up all their voting power to flag such content (and, in the process, open themselves up to retaliation flagging which is nearly difficult to impossible to defend against without thousands of others supporting you)....
Financial Oligarchy, the struggle is real!

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Hmm, got your point. But wouldn't multiple flagging to a spamming bot or user by several users make it blacklisted / inactive? Isn't there any such rule on this platform?🙄 🤔


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Really seems to be more of an issue of the Value-of-One's-Network being greater than the Quality-of-the-Content.
This seemed to be an issue 11 months ago (New accounts soaring but Steemit use falling, multiple account spam?). Yet I haven't seen much pertaining to blacklisting, more based on what I see going on (the only thing I've seen dealing with @ blacklist has been a couple users complaining they were unfairly blacklisted, yet could still see their posts/comments).
Just doing the math (being as I was nearly 'nuked' myself by one user, I should have read the "White Papers" BEFORE calling him out....) it seems to me the value of one's account has more to do with it than anything else.
If a Red Fish gets hammered with flags and blacklisted it can ruin their account if they give up. If a Whale experiences the same level of flag attack, so long as it's value is high enough and Network strong enough, the suffering is significantly minimal compared to the same actions done upon a Red Fish. I would doubt the Whale in this scenario would even be blacklisted, doubtful since everything relates to the value of the account - the higher the value the more hits it would take to do any damage &the more powerful it's own flag becomes. Know what I mean?
Guess I should start researching the ins and outs of if an account can really be destroyed here or not, if it's more of a situation where an account finds themselves in a position they can not recover from and give up (or create a new one).

Read the post and about 70% of the comments, so if someone already mention this – sorry for reheating already warm water.

I am about 4 days old. :) I never used any social media (I do have a FB acc but more or less inactive). I did wrote a blog for about 3 years. I have a vague idea about cryptocurrency and about as much interest in it as my 4 year old niece in nuclear physics.

So I was thinking of blogging again and my friend suggested this. My first impression was not really the best. It seemed a bit messed up but I figured I feel this way only because I’m new. 1 day in and I already got the feel of it. It is messy. The overlook and the system of the page itself … it is not working. I am not talking $ here. I have a job. Upvotes are not an issue. Being seen is the issue. Yesterday I actually counted – just in one section there were like 22 posts in the last 30 min. How many of those posts were actually worth my time? Big fat zero. Mostly just a picture with no content. And I’m talking just a picture taken from google not an actual photography someone made. Even if there is some nice content out there it is like browsing through 9289392 spam messages. Then there is this reestiming stuff. I just hate how the page is made. If I go check out someone’s profile it states what is the owners post and what was reestemed. But sorry … couldn’t that be done some other way? Like in different paragraph? Or maybe colored with pink and with animated dancing pandas around it – so you see it right away or maybe I’m just to OCD for this.

I know blogging takes time. I know building views takes time. I know bonding and integrating into a tight circle takes time. I have no issue with time. But if posts are swamped under all this bull... at this moment I don’t know if this place is worth my time.

Just saying it is not easy for newcomers. After the introduction part you are left alone in the sea of spam with no bread to put it on.

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Then there is this reestiming stuff. I just hate how the page is made. If I go check out someone’s profile it states what is the owners post and what was reestemed. But sorry … couldn’t that be done some other way? Like in different paragraph? Or maybe colored with pink and with animated dancing pandas around it

Hi, have you tried using busy.org? It is another site that connects to the same data (Steem Blockchain) but the interface is very different.

You can use your same user credentials to access the interface.

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Oh ty, I will deffo check it out if its more "organised". :)

Although crypto is a common interest of almost everyone using Steemit, I agree that it's a shame that it's such a dominant subject here. I started a competition for writing about cycling last week with prizes for the top 3 entries... and so far only 2 people have entered. We really need more users who have other niche interests outside of crypto

Spot on, well written, awesome visualised - some cheerleader dancing missing a bit - agreeing though. resteemed!

Thanks so much for this, very on the nose and it doesn't feel like you left anything out. You've crystallized a lot of thoughts I've had myself, and I'm glad to see someone with such a high rep and visibility saying things like this. It gives me hope to see high profile users being critical and not just sitting on laurels.

This post is focusing on the financial issue ... but we must remember the great advantage of Steemit: Its decentralization.

This advantage is very important for people who are against, for example, the bureaucratic state. I know several people who are censored in "Fakebook" or Youtube, for example.

True freedom of expression outweighs monetary issues.

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20 or so whales controlling the reward pool is not exactly decentralized. We have the decentralized architecture — not the implementation.

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The blockchain is decentralized 😏

I get it. The idea behind this platform is to have a gathering of "talented artists" share their work in their chosen fields to a possible new audience for new exposure and the possibility for some type of financial reward at the end if the game was played properly.

Before joining this community a month ago, I spent my time on FB and IG. Why? Because it was easy and a distraction. In my ADD trace, I would bounce from one shiny post to the next. I am not an artist in any sense of the word. I am just a guy who LIKES things. I have interests that are all over the board. So when I was told about this place, I figured why not? Could be fun and I have nothing to lose.

When I arrived, I felt like an pretty 18 year old girl getting off the Greyhound bus in LA from Madison, Ga making my first journey to MAKE IT in the big city.

The music begins and it's time to dance. But what is the etiquette? What are the ground rules? What clique do I fall into? Who is popular and why? Where do I see myself in this new adventure since I am not a crpyto guy, an artist or blogger/vlogger with my own YouTube channel that showcases my special talents? Not a clue so off exploring I go.

The recurring sentiment I hear is that, as a minnow, give quality content and comments. Be patient and eventually everything will fall into place. I am good with that. This isn't my "job" or "source of income".

I stumbled on some, what I would consider great souls and having an opportunity to engage in sometimes deep, but always meaningful dialogue. It was and still is very refreshing. I have found new and interesting topics, subjects and personalities here that have been an absolute joy. For the most part, everyone I have interacted with has pleasant and helpful.

And then there is the dark underbelly of the city. When you know trouble awaits you at every corner and the pimps and drug dealers are there to help you, it will only cost you your soul. Do this and you will have meteoric success instantaneously.

So when I read posts like yours, it saddens me, because I am hearing a lot of the same rumblings from others who have been on this platform for a while. I can't help to think that the voices of reason will not exist because everyone of substance is gone. There is a reason for the cliche of the struggling starving artist.

I wish it could be rainbow colored, glitter filled butterfly fields for everyone. Unfortunately, it can't and won't. Life isn't like that and the reality is that there are going to be some serious growing pains. But with the support of others, we can heal these wounds and laugh about the scars later. Maybe we can help with a pre-indoctrination to Steemit. I don't have the answers, but as a collective, I know there are a ton of smart talented people around, just look to your left or right. I am enthusiastically optimistic about the future. That's my pennies worth and an upvote lmfaosrag Just don't stop dancing before the music stops...

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@thecryptofiend has created an awesome help page for getting your feet wet on the platform. As far as the culture goes. Well, it is a jungle and you really need to be-friend some lions if you are to make it.

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Thank you for the suggestions. I will make sure that I go over and explore his revelations. And yes, this culture is a jungle, as is any arena that involves monetary gains based on performance. It is also an example that it takes a entire village to raise a child. The elders that are here who continue to inspire the little ones and groom the next generation. I have stated before that this Darwinism on full display. The weak, in spirit, content, substance, contribution will either get bored or will dismiss themselves. Until then, antics and exceptional performances will be performed to woo and garner the attention of those of influence. Do the means justify the ends?

One of the problems we have here is self-selection bias towards being excited about steemit itself and crypto in general. One of the reasons posts about the platform itself are so abundant and remain a viable strategy for attracting attention is the fact that they appeal to the largest percentage of the users here who are here because they have a positive attitude towards the platform or they wouldn't be here.

As you pointed out, new users find it inspiring and motivating in the short run and whales find it positive. In a sense, this is the least objectional type of post one could make and the one with the broadest appeal so those posts are still successful. In a sense, that's the least common denominator here and that's usually something that rarely of high quality and still tends to work. You can clearly see it happing in music as well.

I personally remember that when I started two months ago, this was one of the first types of content I interacted with, because most of the things I saw was about crypto that I was not so interested in and steemit itself which I was obviously interested and intriguied by which is the reason I registered.

I think steemit is still suffering from lacking well developed niches besides the meta conversation about the platform and crypto and this is a sign of a new platform and is something that we need to overcome.

Still, writing about steemit from time to time is fine if the posts are meaningful and honest, not just votebate, but we do need to make an effort to expand the niches that would bring people beyond the early-adopter phase. It's often what makes or breaks a platform really and HF19 might not have been a step in the right direction and I have my worries about HF20 as well.

We might be nearing The Chasm and that's going to be the make or break moment for steem as a whole.

It's true that we've got a lot of people who fall into that strange business of promoting a business or way of doing things.... as a business or way of doing things.

It's why when I read articles from online entrepreneurs, even the one's I like, I always try to keep in mind exactly how they earned their initial fortune.

Because if they earned the fortune they're boasting of, from boasting about their fortune and skills and how others can be like them, somethings fishy.

And we, as a society, have come to recognize people who try to make money from showing others how to make money, and with the occurrence of Ponzi schemes and other scams, we've come to have bad presumption about these people (though some of them, in my opinion Ramit Sethi is a prime example, seem to actually have made it work for them, and their work seems fairly elaborate).

As you say, it's up to us all to grow up, and try to define collectively what good value is, and how to properly reward it.

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Because if they earned the fortune they're boasting of, from boasting about their fortune and skills and how others can be like them, somethings fishy.

unfortunately this is exactly what happens with most of these guys but people always fall for the before vs after meme.

One of the best posts I've read so far I've been on the fence regarding SteemIt over the past week. Tired of self propaganda posts full of nonsense.

Fools taking hotel room shots playing it big and the 'quit my job for Steem' posts. Once you get under the hood these posts are contributing zero worth to anyone exept the author. Along with the continual 'expert' crypto posts every time something shifts 10%.

Still I think there are worthy authors hidden in here along the way and I will persevere to find content that holds me.

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Forgot to add. I would love the abilty to mute a whole tag/topic. That would make my content experience much more fulfilling

I like your thoughts (and indeed I had similar ones). I hope you reach as many people as possible. Unfortunately the 'big accounts' who have most influence keep quiet ... I really would like to see them comment here as well ...

You are my new favorite Steemian !!!

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thanks man

I've been here right about a month. There is a guy that started about the same time as me and I ended up following him because I saw him as a train wreck about to happen. Being new, you are attracted to posts that look like they're going to help you learn how it all works.

I kept seeing titles that appeared to be answering questions I had, and very often it was this guy. I checked his profile and called him out as to how he "knew" his information only being here a week. His response wasn't terrible and he admitted he was sharing what he was learning as he went. That's when I signed up to watch the train wreck.

He was getting all kinds of upvotes and making money on his posts too. He was posting like a madman so he was putting up lots of content. I called him out on something at least once more. After a week he quit his job to do Steemit full time. He had called in sick his whole first week.

The next thing I was was others were calling him out for duplicate posts. Not just one duplicate, but he would post the same post 3+ times. Reposting every couple days. His reputation score miraculously stayed in tack somehow, maybe be cause he's almost stopped posting completely.

A lot of his posted were the shilling type you mentioned. I doubt he'll be here for the long haul, but I'll watch him a little longer to be sure.

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Usually these guys don't last long. I've seen many of them come and go.

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I would imagine so. But if they write good titles and use keywords, their legacy is left in google.

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I downvote and unfollow people who repeat spam posts.

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I've down voted one or two, but I haven't seen anyone I follow so that to unfollow them

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I'm new, so I'm on a Follow binge while I find good content. Anybody with a post I like I also follow. I figure I'll be trimming Followees that don't keep up the quality, or do things I think harmful to Steem.

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That's not a bad plan.

Best way that works for me is to close my ears and to do my own thing. I never listen to sales talk and as long as I post quality then all is right in my world. I feel for those that run after the hype, as they hurt the most when it all comes crashing down.

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Yeap, this is probably the wisest thing you can do. Do your own think and stop paying attention what others are doing

Nice post. I'm glad you put it out there. That being said, how do we proceed with the riff-raff? I lost my shit when you called certain types of posts "Digital Herpies". I agree fully with this statement. I always enjoy reading you. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to share your thoughts.

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glad you enjoyed it man

This is inevitable. That's why I'm partly skeptical on steemit, for about 3-5% that it will hurt the whole community and will leave a big discrepancy on value on the long run.

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Is up to us to call these things our and make sure they don't hurt the community

This part sums it up so well.

At the end of the day the people who will fall for this level of marketing will be the ones whom we don't really want to attract in a young platform to begin with — not at least at before wide adaptation.

Having just recently joined steemit it has felt like navigating a jungle of quality, bots, craziness and desperation. Not sure I would have believed in the platform long-term were it not for getting into communities at steem.chat, and @steemSTEM in particular, and thus seeing that indeed there are people with long term vision for the platform, and the ability to build it.

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yeap, it will take some time but I believe if we talk about the issues openly we can make a difference.

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The problem is that new people, with lower voting power, can't stand up for themselves if a "crazy" whale (or an average person in the community), decides they don't like the thoughts and opinions expressed by the newcomer. Which does not exactly make it attractive to start out.

Coming from the space sector myself I've been raided by these people. So a lot of clean-up to be done (whether it be by the community, or by some changes made to how easily someone can flag people for no good reason).

Anyways, hope to be a part of the people who can speak honestly and openly about this issue, and try to make the difference.

Good post. It's really discouraging to see folks with lower reps than myself getting traction on really shitty posts. It's like they engage just long enough to figure out the masturbatory formula that gets them votes. But they are empty votes, and it's empty content.

I've largely gone to only posting when I have the time and inspiration to create a quality post. I started my first month or so with the goal of posting at least once a day, but quickly realized I'm actually diluting the quality of content here by forcing shitjust to get a few bites from minnows...

I don't know, I guess I haven't stumbled into a formula that guarantees returns yet, or rather, I refuse to spam a bunch of post jerking off the community.

As I said, it gets pretty discouraging sometimes if you're not willing to stroke off a few whales to get votes. I'm sticking to the platform because I see it's potential value, but I hope more folks start to see the light, and illuminate the others, like you have here.

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I feel exactly the same way, thanks for putting my thoughts and feelings into words

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well said. it takes time indeed and it is kinda hard to be seen when you first start.

So many great comments about your topic, but nobody mentioned the BOTS. My personal feeling about them is that they should NOT be used to upvote posts. I have no issues with the bots doing clean-up work like Cheeta and steemcleaners. However, I believe that those projects that allow people to buy votes are also damaging the platform. Yes, I can see how many minnows flock to the minnowsupport project to get access to the voting bot that gets them extra votes and helps them win popularity contests and the like. Projects like these and randowhale do in fact give the minnows a hand up, but I have yet to use any of them because I don't want to be part of the growing reason for the proliferation of bot voting. I suffer the low earnings and few votes, but in the end I believe I am truly supporting the platform as a whole to succeed and I wish more people would look at the long term rather than go for the quick buck. Do we really want to continue adding bots to the point where most of the voting is done without even opening the post to see what's inside? Where is the SOCIAL in that? That is not a social media platform, it's an autonomous bot platform!

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At the end of the day though who will control the bots? The source code is pretty much open-sourced. Anyone can automate anything they want.

That is not a social media platform, it's an autonomous bot platform!

that is true to some extent. This is why is better to let the users decide what the platform is all about instead of saying that is an easy money maker.

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I don't believe 'control' is in the cards here. I think 'socially acceptable' would be a better term. If people stopped using the bots then there wouldn't be any use in building them.

Saying that the platform is an easy money-maker is not entirely untrue. Those who have invested a lot of their own money or were early adopters and earned sufficient SP can make some easy coin. However, advertising the platform as an easy way to make money for someone new and without the resources to invest money into the platform would be untrue.

This is why I advertised this platform to my FB friends as How To Grow A Money Tree. It takes careful planning and a lot of nurturing to start a seedling that will take time to grow and bear fruit.

@kyriacos you're not the only voice in the wilderness, I've seen similar posts recently from other people who have been here since way back in 2016.

And there have been posts at least attempting to start a dialog about what can be done as a community. I've only been here 2 months so I don't know if that happened before or not.

@edje posted this a few days ago: https://steemit.com/steemitculture/@edje/proposal-join-forces-to-create-a-great-steemit-culture

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Just read it. I agree with what he sais but the question remains. Who will create that strong arm?

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And who decides who gets "strong-armed"?

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indeed...

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Luckily I'm not even big enough to be made an example of.

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Yep, he is one of the few honest ones around.

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I think there are quite a few "honest ones" but far too many remain silent.

You've pretty much well said what I have been thinking. There has been a nasty drop in quality, with half arsed wanna be crypto experts posting half baked ill researched sensationalist articles about the "insider" news.
Upvoted.

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lol. indeed.

Interesting read. I think for good content to rise to the top there need to be more content consumers rather than producers. At the moment some people seem to think it's easy money by putting out endless rubbish. If people just came to steemit primarily to read quality stuff we might stand a chance of competing with the more established platforms.

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We do need good content creators but I think the easy reward — almost gambling scheme — is putting people off.

Beatiful

Thank you for the well written post. I finally understand/grasp what the heck is going on here. I came because I thought it would be a place full of talented writers and creators. The other, well, I am learning. Follow me, follow you - what is up with that?

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I guess it is a way to get head start in this mess.

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Truth, but, usually those peter off into nothing.

Preach!

I completely understand and agree with your post and its very informative, I am still new to this and basically the only reason i joined Steemit was to write. I used to post all kinds of informative information on Facebook,etc. But got no reaction. My guess people are into memes and other superficial things. Or a whole of Show and tell. Thanks for your content i will follow!

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Yeap. You could make memes and see how it goes. Some people seem to dig that.

But the problem is people buy that sort of posts.

I often can see fast made shitty post from popular guys with huge upvote amount, and really great posts from minnow with 10 votes with 0.02 amount

Sheep always follow for their shepherd

and.... it always confuses me, I often see a cheerleader's or even MLM slogans from very reputable steemians. That gives me idea that Steem is a one more crypto bubble.. if they all constantly need fresh blood

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Agreed!! Unfortunately everyone gives vpvotes for no reason if you have huge following :/

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greed for curator rewards ; little do they know, curators rewards for minnows are practically neglible

The whole time I was trying to find out why the thumbnail was a rug until I got to the very end lol

Well I agree with you to some extent but for a newbie these things do matter. When he sees his posts getting liked and getting first few followers on his profile he gets excited and posts things like this. I don't think there is much wrong in it :)

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but then the rewards drop and he realizes that the followers were fake so he goes back to his friends on facebook

You have the power to influence and change this and you are using it. Your message is more than just a scolding. The meaning and necessity to have a platform for free speech, the sharing of ideas, joy and sorrow. It nourishes all the best of humanity. No one wll believe me, but that's okay. I don't do it for gain. Thank you for this post.

Filtering what's genuine and what's not it's kind of difficult when bloggers are know for their avid writing skills plus all the copywriting.

It's hard to know what to believe and what not to.

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Well, one owes to do their due diligence. Beyond that, I don't think there is anything more that can be done

Oh.my.God! Ya know, The Great Gig in The Sky..........
On this one, you are spot fuckin' on!
Congratulations! You win an Atheist Cupie Doll!
Okay, then, I'm off to the roller-coaster where hopefully I'll barf up all the vacuous content on this site....
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This post is gold!

Great commentary.
There is probably a lot of things factoring in, but one of the most apparent imo is that so many "try" to be content creators. They post mainly for the sake of posting, drowing the platform in BS.

This issue can ofc be mitigated with different platform design and new products built upon the blockchain.

I've also seen myself how much more I personally enjoy being here when I'm interacting with others, rather than just focusing on posting.

When it comes to new users thinking the grass is greener;
It seems like the mistake made in a lot of selfshilling posts is that it says everyone can make a easy living etc. Instead the focus should be that you can get a fair reward for interacting with people. And when you occasionally make a thought out, good and purposefull post, you also get paid.

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Instead the focus should be that you can get a fair reward for interacting with people. And when you occasionally make a thought out, good and purposefull post, you also get paid.

amen to that

I laughed too much at "digital herpes" but great post. I think the longer Steemit exists the more this will change and this digital herpes as you framed it will die out eventually, or at least earn less. People will see who writes good content and will downvote/ignore the self-promotion and shilling. That's my hope and guess of what the future of steemit in regards to digital herpes (still cracks me up) will bring.

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The important part is to get rid of it before it becomes a major infestation

I was laughing so hard while reading this that I can not see from my eyes any more :)

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happy to give out a laugh

Hard to argue with any of this. I posted yesterday on my stars-aligning of 450 followers and 900 posts, and essentially the gist was "do the work". None of the whales got their size from shilling for an upvote. None of them. People get on here and figure that what happens in the next thirty minutes matters. It's irrelevant. Five years from now you might really be glad you made a solid friend/follower. You will not remember, nor will it have been of any benefit, that you got some random stranger to give you a .02 upvote.

Good work. Couldn't agree with this more. What do you think the chances are of a HF that bans self-upvoting?

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It will happen with the next HF. I think we might even see it in a month or so since the reward pool is being raped by scammers.

There are so many bullshit posters on steemit including antivaxxers. Is it really this easy to post bullshit? Is there a way to downvote posts?

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you can use the flag option in the right hand side.

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ok thank you :)

While people get rewarded for them, they will continue and spawn more attempts. Some of the money being put into these posts by people that should know better is quite amazing.

People will always chase rewards by copycatting and while shite gets rewarded that is what will get Xeroxed.

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Is it really worth it though at the end of the day?

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I think no but as you know, most don't think at all. They act without sensitivity or consideration of the environments and feel they are acting well.

The ones that know better act from a position of greed, even if it is not in their own best interest.

But, I work hard for little reward in the hope it will be recognised, so what do I know? :)

Self Creation post is always best as i read in internet and also read in ur post. I always write in my words.

When we are not rewarded we tend to give up instead of trying to improve. I want to say more but at the moment I am unable to put it into words. Let me think about this and get a plan. I will be back. Thank you and take care.

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Yeap, I kept posting since last year based on the same quality despite of the rewards.

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When you give up is when you loose!

Definitely food for thought as usual, on the other hand I am learning a lot by reading posts by the crypto fanatics. Seeing the same post in the high range richly rewarded gets old, however I figure they earned it somewhere down the line. I have noticed my little I was earning as a curator and poster have dropped off the cliff. So now my mission is to be in here interacting with folks like yourself and learning a lot of new things. It is refreshing for me to be around the intellectual activity experienced in here. Also the artists are fun to review. Thanks for posting this ..

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Seeing the same post in the high range richly rewarded gets old, however I figure they earned it somewhere down the line.

not really though. The whales controlling the rewards are very few and is hard to see whether the content was product of quality or nepotism.

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I see what you mean.. oh well.. nothing we can do about it.

As a newbie, I find your argument SPOT ON!
You are right...the pseudo-optimism temptation is there, but what is needee is MORE awesome CONTENT!
Thanks!

Might I just say.. Every single one of those pictures were so on point with your message :D

I agree with what you are saying. People are constantly being manipulated and lied to, so no wonder so many people's expectations aren't being met..

So many people just want to quick sell everything..

Keep the content rolling! Stay in touch :)

lol @ unicorn farting rainbow cash!!!! hehehehehe!!!! What people need to learn is that there are no "get rich quick" solutions... you know... Easy come, Easy go! You earn from hard work. THE bloody END!!!

Well said!!

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yeap. easier said than done in the world of crypto

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yip!!!! true story!

You are right... I also was excited and posted something exactly like this but looks like noone is interested :))

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eventually people will have to get interested if they want their investment to take off.

I don't even know what is happening on Steemit content filters. Everyone is posting anything and most of the people are just copy pasting content and still able to get their post a great deal of earnings. Where is this going?
I am working my ass off for 3 hours for one post which never get even 1 dollar and people are just getting 100 dollar for just random clip or post.
If this is going like this, Steemit would never be able to survive this. People will rush towards to the facebook and reddit again. I just hope it never happens.

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Indeed. You are correct. My best solution is this: if whales are unable to curate by double checking then they should delegate their power to other people. Otherwise they are just hurting their own investment. Most think that the problem will just go away. I don't think it will.

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Correct. i don't think this problem will go away. All the power rests in the hands of whale and they are using it where they see it fits. This is not the way things work. They should delegate their power to people or at least curate good authors.

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Exactly, this is not one of those problems that can be fixed with time or improved code, which is also why it's the most difficult one to solve

Is it the fault of the writers or the fault of the community for upvoting those posts. From what I've seen Steemit is so 1 dimensional right now and I'm just as guilty. Post about crypto, how to steemit, travel, or a photo you took from the front porch of your house upvoted to the moon. Sell your Dash masternode, call Dash crap, then join Steemit to pump your steem investment and get upvoted to the moon. You're right it does seem to be one big circle-jerk.

I think some of the power figures on here need to start guiding steemit on what is the goal to help better steemit. Right now all the new people just see more followers = more money = success on steemit. What is the correct quantity and goal to shoot for to suceed on steemit? As a minnow myself I don't know where to get involved, who to help out. The couple of people/projects I've reached out to don't seem interested in wanting my help.

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I am so new that I am clueless about who the whales are, or whether they have ethics or positive community plans for Steemit....
....but if they are just 'lucky winners' on the Steemit ship, they may not care about the future of the community because they have already made their thousands and hundreds of thousands. 'Milk the cow dry and take your cash to the next playground.' I hope this isn't the case, but that is the mentality in the first three layers of big/viral multi level marketing businesses. 'Milk the peasants and move on.'

If that is the case...we peasants(sorry, minnows) need to get united and change it NOW.
PEEEEEEEACE!

So long post, took me 30 minutes to understand!
However, upvoted and followed already. It is your turn now

I'm on the platform for like 5 days and already have a similar mentality as yours. Steemit is not promoting good content about almost any topic besides the own platform and crypto things. There are so many posts full of good information and the don't get nothing, and I'm not talking about money, I'm talking about views. Yes, Steemit have grown alot in the last year, but I would like to see a statistic to show how much of the new accounts remains here for at least one month, I bet that this number is pretty low.

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exactly. user retention is key here...not just acquisition.

Insightful post. I'm working my way through steemit as I'm knew here. I will say steemit is really helping me find my voice. It's def a social media platform but really supports the original path instead of vapid, self centered areana's of FB & instgram. I'm really enjoying myself so far.

Such posts offends no one except the Synereo guys.

Yeah, it sucks, but there aren't many of these posts and if some bimbo makes one of those posts once in a while they won't get upvoted for the post, but because they always get upvoted regardless of posting content. ( I don't know if new members have been upvoted for that recently.)

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I think the whales know better.
A quick "money for free" post will attract more people than "you won't get nothing unless you befriend a whale and work hard".
I'm sure more people from the first bunch will stay on the platform than the other. Viral/fake messages/advertising works. Just like McDonalds.

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I agree with yours view point.

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It might work short term but I don't think is sustainable

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I see it this way: in real world we have McDonalds and fancy 5 star restaurants, cheap motels and Hiltons. People visiting all of them and everybody make money on the end and they're all happy. We just need communities and better search filters. Platform is evolving and good and bad stuff is normal. Like in life. If you want to live like a teenager whole life it's not sustainable. Something will give up. Liver first,for sure. Your post help platform to grow, like every new post here. People will turn back to shit posts eventually. It's process and takes time.

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What I am more afraid of is competitors picking up from where we left.

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I'm not so worried about that. They gonna face the same issues and many other. We already gone through some deep shit here and survive it. Most of innovations dye of in first year. We passed that hurdle.

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What happened with your voting man? you were like my no.1 supporter since early on.

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Do we actually do that ? Upvote Steemians we believe are pretty/sexy ?

I've never seen it, but then I tend not to wander too much. I follow those whose ideas I find interesting, and also go on dives into #science or tags I get momentarily interested in due to a post.

@kyriacos I have a question about your article, in the third paragraph from the bottom...

is the dick in his hand his own or someone else's???

j/k we totally need diverse content to appeal to the masses and seeing those 'look how well im doing' posts do so well boggles the mind!!!

im still trying to figure out how I can best add to the community aside from crypto, but shit its all i know aside from engineering, weed, and philosophy.

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You just typed 3 awesome content categories. Go ahead with those.

Self-Shilling and Steemit go together like peas and carrots, it's a pay-to-win system, so if you want your posts, ideas, and ideologies front and center, you pump some money into them, and voila... you're "Hot" and "Trending"!

Which to most translates into honest, truthful, and the real deal.

Once you're on top, you simply proceed to shill away my friend... shill away.

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That's highly problematic though since at this stage is anything but a free economy. We only have the reward model in hand. If someone else figures out how to do it better then Steemit will be gone.

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I think about that a lot. Second-mover advantage... correct Steemit's mistakes. I don't see any real threats yet, but we'll be challenged soon enough.

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Very true indeed.

I suppose time will prove whether Steemit can be what it set out to be or be a long lost memory.

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It's up to the community really

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I guess it all starts with every individual here. Ghandi said it best : "Be the change you want to see"
Everyone needs to do their part and Steemit will work out fine.

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yeap. this is why writing about these problems is the first step.

Strong article! Thank you @kyriacos for your thoughts! I resteemed!

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The Stairway to Heaven:)

OOO, You changed your avatar!! :=))

I'm ashamed, but three days ago I wanted to brag (especially to myself) that I was "something" may, what I "something" standing. And I wrote a little "post-boaster".

I will no longer do that. I promise=)) Followed Your advice. And devote much time commenting on posts.

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yeah, i might change it back.

comments do work better than posts at the beginning.

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Don't change please. Avatar — cool!!

Bravo. As a newbie, when I read all these posts that have exorbitant claims, I wonder what's wrong with me. I decided to do it the hard way 1 follower at a time and write interesting post. Thanks for the reality check. Following and upvoted

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Yeap, I must say, today it is much easier for someone to shine with all the helping guilds. It was much tougher in the past. It does take grit to shine through.

Thanks for this post. The issues you've raised are the very reasons I refuse to put anything halfway decent I've written on steemit. Most of the content I see doing well is something as cheap and stupid as a meme someone found on google images. Actual original content seems to be the minority of posts and ends up buried under hundreds of recycled memes (or self-shilling posts as you've described them). As it stands I'm having a hard time convincing myself to stick around. For the record I'm not looking for easy money. I have a job and my bills are paid. What I was hoping for with steemit was a genuine community interested in each others work. I am disappointed.

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So far the platform lacks in a lot of aspects. There needs to be a make over in regards to content visibility and credibility.

I think that with time and a strong community interactions Steemit can surpassed all major social media such as Facebook, twitter and youtube to name a few. I believe that steemit has a brilliant future ahead.

way to think outside the box

I'd say the biggest problem at the moment is that votes are basically restricted to an extremely tiny number. Because of that, people are mostly only voting on articles and it's usually for the ones they know are going to get the most rewards. That leaves very few votes left for comments.

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yeap, a wider power delegation should solve this

Wow this is a fresh perspective. "we are not McDonalds" I love it. These self-shilling ass holes will always be around we just have to avoid them at the least or call a few out and see if that gets rid of them. Anyhow thanks for post.

I just wrote a post about something similar. The thing is if we are selling the platform as this magic money tree, people shouldn't be surprised when new users come in with that attitude, realise it's not the case and become disillusioned.

Wew lad

This senseless shilling mentality should not be so hastily pushed from those who control the reward pool because they actually end up hurting their own investment in what seems good promoting content.

You stole my thoughts there !!

Relevant : https://steemit.com/steemit/@josephd/how-to-improve-steemit-the-community

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wasn't aware of that one mate. good one

Curation is becoming a joke, if you write a long post on a non controversial topic with decent grammar, you'll almost surely get many "blind votes". Users voting without even clicking on the post, views way less than upvotes.

This post of mine is an example of that

https://steemit.com/science/@josephd/no-you-absolutely-cannot-travel-faster-than-light-with-any-technology-that-will-be-ever-built

Fuck the money, focus on content, only real way a platform meant for bloggers could succeed. These two things don't mix. If quora implemented some monetary reward system for top answers, I can assure you the answers will look like absolute shit, people posting with little to no knowledge on the relevant topics. You would have to sift through hundreds of garbage answers to find a good one. And even worse, people with bigger networks would get their friends to upvote their horrible answers.

This is actually happening to an extent even without a monetary incentive; just for the "rep" .

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I am actually not sure if that will happen. I think the monetary system can be implemented only AFTER enough people have build enough reputation and content is flowing. Implementing it right from the start is a guaranteed catastrophe.

You hit the nail on the head, with the batshit crazy comment about many people who reply to posts here. Until this place normalizes a little bit its going be very difficult for Steemit to gain mainstream acceptance.

I also agree concerning all of the self aggrandizing that takes place here. People need to quit promoting Steemit to Steemit users on Steemit. Lots of posts are made that do this very thing on a regular basis .

Having said all that I have reservations that things will change.

Thanks again and keep preaching the truth.

if they changed the name of the site to CircleJerk it would be more fitting and easier to understand

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Haha we typed almost the same comment

It's basically a whale circle jerk and they will end up killing steemit

Yep that's pretty much right!, and at the end of the day people will post whatever they want to post. It will boil down to how we curate.

I'm new here, and slowly learning. I love the concept, even if the implementation could use some tweaking. Right now, my strategy is to give more low-power votes to quality content and comments, rather than dolloping around larger votes. I'm flagging outright cancer. I'm yet to build a following of note, though I know this is about engagement over the long-term.
I don't need it myself, but I wonder if the place might be improved by some whales finding promising minnows and delegating 2K SP to them? Enpower an army of community building minnows and I suspect the place will thrive.
I met a minnow with whom I'm tempted to do just that: delegate them 2K SP.
I think this might be better than the mutual-upvoting or buy-upvotes that goes on. I don't think the big whales would notice a few 2K SP lumps they use to sponsor community builders.

I try to focus on Steemit's potential. It's a kind of pitch that's directed at the tech, not the dollars. It's up to them to connect the dots.

I, for one, do get tired of seeing the same types of posts on the trending page ALL THE FREAKING TIME. It's all crypto and tech articles, when there is SO much more to read on Steemit that's so good, and not getting any attention. I think a more varied trending page, with more topics up there, would make this a more inviting place to newcomers.

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Thank you, @lindabasilick. Maybe one day we can get the topics on the trending page to be more varied and interesting than they are now.

Yeah, uh, I didn't read all of the post. I think I've already got a good handle on what you're trying to say. Maybe I've pushed it slightly once or twice so far, but I don't step outside what I'm comfortable with.

I'm not an optimist kind of person to begin with. And I seriously fucking hate the superficial optimist/vanity driven bullshit that people spew when trying to create this veil of warm and cuddly communities.

It makes me metaphorically vomit in my mouth when I see it, or when I ever consider giving it a try. It's disgusting to me, because it's not who I am and it's not how I see real people to be. It's what I most often associate with... less-desirable types.

I skip over people and content that try and bleed some sort of fake brand of ultra-super-friendly-optimist-that-loves-everyone-and-we-all-get-along-let's-sing-a-song. I simply have little tolerance for it, personally.

Some of my friends do it and I know they're faking it to get to the lowest common denominator of readers. I don't try to dissuade them whenever I see it because we all have a choice on how to go about building our image on Steemit, or anywhere else in the world – and I don't believe my advice is all that worth it anyways.

I'm sort of jealous you got to this topic before I did, this is something that matters to me greatly because I see it almost everywhere that money and "image" are both involved. You fucking slayed it.


Thanks. I never thought that anyone else would notice this sort of bullshit other than autists like myself that live in seven layers of crude irony.

Sensible individuals with an I.Q ranging above room temperature don't buy it.

One of the best lines I've read on Steemit.

Found your blog by a re-steem and i was in a short work break when i did it. Well very interesting blog and with some parts i totally agree and with some parts i don't. But let me tell you about me and how i started on Steemit so you can understand me a little bit better.
Fortunately or unfortunately i am working on a cruise ship (i am not going to go in to many details about it) and all the time i am going home in vacations and hang out with my friend lately the main topic is cryptocurencie! Me personally i am a "rookie" in this niche but i always got fascinated abut the concept behind it. I still remember the day when the topic was Steem and Steemit because it was my last day home before i was going to leave and do one more contract on the cruise ships! So once i left and i settle i start in one day to search a bit about Steemit...at the end of the day my friends were so excited about it!
So i decided to join without knowing what to expect or about how is going to be.. all i knew was that my friends founded the place amazing. So here i am on my mobile phone in the middle of the seas with very slow internet making my account and next day if i am not wrong writing my first blog (of course in the introduceyourself area).
Just to let you know i am not a blogger and i do consider my self as a very bed writer as i never post something till Steemit and i don't have like others native skills of writing. But i said let me try, if my friends are here why not. And slowly slowly i start to post and start to write and lately mainly in the travel niche since i travel do my job a lot.
Despite the fact that i am new i got a lot of time disappointed by the lack of quality content some people are adding and i will give you some examples(i don't understand why we have here a colorchange challenge were more then 99% of the people just copy paste photos that they find randomly online or a meme challenge witch ranks in the same criteria and so on as the list can go on).
For me at my blogs the most important feedback are the comments and not the votes as i am trying to become better so i don't understand comment like: " nice..upvoted..i follow you please follow me" really???? But i guess that some of us here have an age a good education background and most of steemit users are a lot of kids "teenagers" that think that "everything that flies is eatable".
On a long term only good and original content users will be here to stay and this is what i am trying as well to do ... be better each blog that i am posting and try to be original with original and i hope "quality" content.
For me i different as i have a very good job and i am not here for the "money" like more then 90% from what i notice. As a matter a fact what i am planing to do during Christmas time as i will be home is to see how much my Steemit account is worth multiply that by 2 and then use that to buy to an orphanage whatever they might need. Like this i want to involved my daughter who is just 9 years old and show her how important the concept "sharing is caring" is.
So with ups and downs Steemit i think is an amazing place where people like me for example can develop and become better and it's a place where on a long term only passionate and dedicated people will "survive".
At the end of the day we should see this platform as a fun place to be where we should enjoy and th