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RE: Response to @dantheman "notice-to-bot-spammers"

in #steemit8 years ago (edited)

I really enjoied your article in response to @dantheman/notice-to-bot-spammers.

Especially corrective thinking stuff like this (lol):

A villain is just a hero of the other side

Think baby steps.. Work with what we have now.

  1. Sounds like it is time to change from trending to a new landing page. I think your right, their is no point in showing mega payout posts so much. A health system has people spending most of their time searching for undervolted but good content. To remove the payout info completely is a more complex topic, I'm not ignoring it, you make valid points but it is not as simple as just removing it. I would like to re-visit that later. But if you have any ideas like changing the landing page or tweaking something please reply let me know.
  2. A global reputation score is a scary thing. Why incite voting wars? What do you think about individual mutes? Since we have the information score (basically, the net up and down votes weighted by steem power). Maybe we should start by putting that metric under a user's profile so people can use visually it if they want to. It does not have to effect which posts you see by default, after all it may or may not turn out to be a good number. If you find it useful you can use it to help you decide if you want to mute someone, etc.. Or, do you still think we just don't even need to go there? (see #3 instead)
  3. Finally, I think we should outsource this completely and keep Steemit out of the picture. Users decide to mute or not. And if we need it, we could make it possible for users to link up (via follow) and share mutes.
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@jsc Each of these are good proposals for individuals and a great use case for personalized AI.
Not every bot is a chatter bot.
However even a plugin with some brains to autocurate content I might be interested in would be good.
Contextual analysis is a growing and exciting field, but it isn't quite there yet.

As for removing the payout info, just hide or better yet remove the div tag it's sitting in. That's all I'm saying. If someone is genuinely curious they can always just go visit the blockchain and crunch the numbers. While number crunching they can analyze the data at a much deeper level and extract the information that is important to them.

"Why does user @blah make an average of $5k per post"? Might be they just have a large following of people they appeal to. It might be that they post at some optimal time frame in the system. It might be something completely unrelated like they have a ton of dolpin sock puppets and are abusing the system. The point is you cannot know these things until you crunch the numbers and just asking people to draw conclusions based on the dollar amount of a post is going to lead them in the wrong direction every time.

FYI your #3 describes in a couple lines what I laid out here...
https://steemit.com/steemit/@williambanks/bot-warz-a-hybrid-approach
Keep in mind that post is a bit older and some of my views have been changed in hindsight.

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