Are SMT's Just A Joke? Is The Platform Ok With @haejin Abuse? And How Our Witnesses Are A Joke!

in steemit •  6 months ago

Are SMT's Just A Joke? Is The Platform Ok With @haejin Abuse? And How Our Witnesses Are A Joke!

It seems as though as time continues to roll by that the platform itself is ok with @haejin pillaging the rewards pool. @ned made a post half a year ago about SMT's and that was about as far they got. I'm not sure what the intentions are from Steemit Inc. but the lack of news isn't very heartwarming.


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I have tried about as many methods as I can possibly think of besides actually purchasing 1.5 millon Steem for around 4.5 million dollars which I obviously don't have. Since so many people seem to be more obsessed with circle jerking and self up voting then putting a stop to @haejin then I don't see how the platform will be able to continue on for years to come.

I realize that there are a lot of Steemians who feel that Haejin is good for the platform and he isn't harming it at all. I don't and will not ever be able to understand this ridiculous logic. It seems that some little fish care but not enough to make a difference. There power is to weak to make a difference. Some large fish care sometimes but not enough at the same time to shut Haejin down completely. We have idiots like @jerrybamfield just raking in the dough as well. Scammers collecting payouts on the daily and new users continuous quitting do to lack of recognition for their blogs compared to regulars.

Steemit Witnesses are basically a joke. I haven't seen much of anything from most of them that makes any difference to the platform. I will not bash them all of course there are a few who are doing something. You know who you are. You are terrible witnesses but you don't mind me saying that as you still continue to cash in on your blocks. We have witnesses who are not willing to stand up to Haejin since he has bascially bought them off with his witness vote for them (Including Rancho's) since he is Ranchorelaxo's proxy.

Witness List - What Are You Doing?



Haejin's Witness Votes

My New Witness List

We have users who have delegations who are afraid to flag Haejin because they don't want to lose their delegations. We have users who don't want to flag Haejin because it will affect their blogs or rewards. We have users who don't want to flag Haejin because using all their power to flag will not allow them to upvote in their current circle jerk resulting in loss of votes in because of their lack of votes out. We have users who team up together in groups of 10 to create the perfect circle jerk. These users all upvote 1 post each per day and all 10 upvote eachother resulting in 1 $200 ish post for each of the 10 users everyday. Why would they quit that to flag Haejin? That's right they won't.

Ned is a useless Steemian and I wish he would power down and sell off all of his Steem already. The bid bots are brutal for the community as well. I do understand the point however the abuse is incredible and the money generated to the user(s) who delegated to the bot are raking in the profits. Blocktrades Steem Power delegation service is a piece of shit. It is so expensive that it doesn't even make sense for users to purchase any Steem Power from that. Users do purchase the power though and Blocktrades continues to rake in the dough and in turn create more Steem to sell again. It's unbelievable how much money users make when they delegate to services like Smart Steem which make curating a garbage and useless task.

I constantly see posts of people complaining about the platform and nothing being done to fix it. I see users threatening to rape the rewards pool as a solution to the issues at hand. I see users who agree with the rape and say that's why they do it. I see users who say it's all about ROI so it's fine.

So with all that being said this confirms that the platform will ultimately fail. The lack of effort to create a platform that will work will be the main reason for it's collapse. I see users pretending to make efforts to care by creating posts which the profit largely on sometimes. Keep pretending if you'd like but without actual changes made to the platform or users stepping up to the plate and making the difference I don't see how we will survive.

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I’ve tried to talk to other witnesses and whales about the problems we have (at the protocol level), but nobody wants to acknowledge the sources...or even listen at all. The culture of cheerleading and the current disengagement and unaccountability lies directly at the feet of STINC.

I’ve been saying for a long time now that STINC is leading this platform straight into the gutter...and I’ve been vilified and essentially blacklisted for it.

How long do we need to witness the failures until the invested users decide that we need a better direction? Why do we let the “leadership” around here off the hook just because of irrational crypto pumps?

Steem could be so much more than it is today, but it’s hampered by utter incompetence at the top. The fact that I’m mostly alone in my blunt criticism of STINC and most of the whales and top witnesses tells me that nobody really gives a shit as long as they’re still “making money online.”

Honestly...I think pretty much everyone is to blame here. And I don’t think much will ever change.

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Also, the funny thing is that the same stuff @ats-david has been vilified and blacklisted for saying in the past is now becoming the cool thing to say, and certain whales are more than happy to reward that now that it’s someone else saying the same fucking thing.

They can all suck my dick.

Upvoted this post anyway because it’s a good post.

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Lol what the fuck is wrong with this place. Most of us came here because of activism and truthing posts get you silenced but you come here and get flagged for it. Lots of us came here for a decentralized platform and a chance to earn some money/crypto only find out how she really works here. I hope they like DP cause I'm not down for the bullshit either

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...and certain whales are more than happy to reward that now that it’s someone else saying the same fucking thing.

Yeah...a year later. So if I was right a year ago, and now people are starting to see the very problems I’ve been pointing out, but some of those same people are now the ones using my old criticisms...

Where the fuck are all of the apologies to me?

And if they aren’t going to apologize for being absolute spineless douchebags, at least credit me for the original work. Damn plagiarists.

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I want some of that, too.
Ive been calling the bs since oct '16.
All it got me was blacklisted and some jokes by whales.

I may not have a bunch of money but i am a human being, goddamnit, and im mad as hell and not gonna take it any more!

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Yes. I agree with you. One step at a time. They are definitely the main problem but yes we as a whole are also to blame. I feel that a lot of the top is more to blame then the majority of Steemians. We all know the trending pages never change, the top witnesses never change (regardless of their action or no action), the bland beta website is still near the same. A lot needs to be changed but there is no one taking action.

Steem could be so much more than it is today, but it’s hampered by utter incompetence at the top. The fact that I’m mostly alone in my blunt criticism of STINC and most of the whales and top witnesses tells me that nobody really gives a shit as long as they’re still “making money online.”

So how many witnesses does it take to make changes around here? Let's play some fucking Jenga here then. Some witnesses from the bottom and put them on the top :)

I have an idea which some may find will really help the platform. Implementing these ideas and harforking and not simple action for regular users. We rely on witnesses and Steemit INC to make the changes which majority seeks in order to have a better platform.

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Yep its Stinc that has refused to do anything to fix the site all for the quest of the ephemeral SMT!

So with all that being said this confirms that the platform will ultimately fail.

I will go down with the ship if I have to.

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That's our lord, an exemplary Steemian, talking! You are truly an inspiration dear @fulltimegeek sire! Thanks for being just in judgment and the way you relate here.

Yours ardent follower,
@eurogee

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You're the only Steemian I know who bought in but doesn't use it as an excuse to pillage. What makes you so different, and can we clone you? ;)

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I think Haejin is the iceberg which has put a hole in Steemit.

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Lol. Yes we will be as well. :)

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The sad part is, while someone like you will go down with the ship if you have to, the cowards will scoop up as much as they can before they hop off into the lifeboat with all their pillages.

Completely agree. The platform governance is awful. I wrote a similar post last week about it. You know what's really tragic about all this? It all becomes exactly the same thing we're trying to escape from. Steemit has just created more people at the top pissing on people at the bottom. Social wellbeing wasn't factored in at the creation of Steemit so it's broken from the start. The wealthy can simply buy a huge stake and drink everyone else's milkshake and that's exactly what's happening - with impunity. Solutions: a separate fork with egalitarian values at its core. Or the community come together and downvote (unlikely). It would be cool if some of the people at the top, who do absolutely nothing, got involved.

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On the other side, there are people who abuse the flagging option, as well. I don't like how they just let anything and everything happen, whether it's good or bad.

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There are a lot of issues. The issues are not as much the problem as doing nothing about them is.

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If an account obtains so many flags in a short period of time their account should be reviewed by the community to determine if there is a problem. The problem could be fixed by lowering rep or rewards being removed up to being banned for good. A random draft of community members along with a bot check and good old peer review.
If their fruit is rotten, cut them down before the rot spreads.

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I think it is better to warn them than to cut them. Besides, steem's policy is to not delete any account. However, they could suspend an account for a week, for abuse. That would be my suggestion.

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Removing an accounts rewards is a warning compared to taking away their ability to obtain rewards at all. It's like receiving a fine. My main point is there must be consequences to what is not acceptable in the community. Especially for those with more power and responsibility.

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Boom.

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That truly is the biggest problem. Personally, I don't care that haejin makes a lot of money. When I saw how much he was making daily, it inspired me to try harder to make more money. I researched to find out how to form a better strategy. I did not complain. Instead, I believed that I could do better and I am doing just that.

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I guess Steemit has shown a serious flaw with decentralisation :( we need a stronger unified community that no whale can intimidate.

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A very good article on that (flaws with decentralization) was written recently:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@sorin.cristescu/steemit-and-the-fractal-society

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I agree with you.

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The whales are not the problem. The problem is that there is no one to police the site to keep people from abusing it.

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Yes. Changes need to be implemented very soon. I will check out your article.

Spot on Bro! It’s a shame too, because the Steem blockchain ( not website) is probably one of the best created to date. Feels like it’s being wasted.

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I think so too. It's an incredible thing that was created. Crypto's in general are game changers. Why we sit here on an outdated beta version of somewhat pyramid scam is beyond me. Let's fight for change.

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What game has crypto changed, exactly?

I think it’s been business as usual.

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For me the game changer would be mostly hope. Since cryptos haven't crashed to $0.00 if you got into them early enough it was something worth investing in that wasn't so fucked up like stocks. It seems as though they are starting to be manipulated now more then before. I still think that they're good though. I like your negativity it seems you hate everything as much as I do.

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It doesnt feel wasted to those raping it.

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Lol. You're so right. It's the most perfect situation for some :(

it's a good rant @hendrix22, but a bit depressing as fcuk

you guys really need a laugh.... Go Check This Out:

@comedyopenmic / #comedyopenmic

The whole concept of people buying Steem and then using the power it gives for alteristic reasons is a little bit hopeful I believe. If you ban self upvoting, prevent circle jerking (not sure how) and ban all bots, I think that the majority would leave.

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Then hope lives, you gotta meet @fulltimegeek.

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I have an idea on a way which this could be better. I'm working on putting it all together. I will post it next but I unfortunately have no power to make the changes.

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Great!!!! Let the majority leave. Let the minority take over and treat the whole platform with some integrity. Not that religious but I believe it was said.."and the meek will inherit the earth" ..So let the minnows take over and create some basic guidelines ...Or is that too rose colored for the slimballs reaping the rewards. Every business has them. Loopholes for the rich. If steemit goes down there will be another platform and another, since this is the "New Age" and Facebook is slowly losing it's FACE.

This is sad, but you are 99% correct @hendrix22

The platform does not always care. Minnows and small dolphins care more since they are the ones growing and actually going around reading and taking part. Most whales are just concerned about profits and when we analyze their voting behaviors we can easily see that they love self-voting, giving themselves way more than the rest of the platform. The greed is real and as long as they get paid and earn a lot they care very little for the rest...

The circle jerking in the top 20 witnesses are crazy and no one will ever be there unless they want you there. All the votes are from the good the bad and the ugly, this shows you that as long as they get their witness votes they do not care voted for them, as long as they get the votes.

Don't get me wrong, we have some good witnesses that really try their best, but a lot of them are just in it for the money.

Too much drama for Qurator though. We are a witness too, but honestly, I would never want to be in the top 20. Don't want to be involved in that level of politics. You asked what some witnesses do, I cannot speak for all of them but I can speak for Qurator. Around 230+ days, over 1300 members manually approved by a panel of moderators. You post crap and spam, you are out. Post quality original content with the right sourcing and zero plagiarism and you can become part of our little community. Daily support and upvotes. Community project through and through.

I know this does not sound that impressive but at least we can have the peace of mind knowing we are supporting good original authors. We can motivate them to keep posting and to know there is a support system in place for them. We are not the biggest and we are only scratching the steemit userbase surface, but slowly and surely we will keep growing and become stronger to only promote what Steemit needs. Real people, real bloggers, real posts and original content.

Maybe not what you expected since you want someone to fight H We are just not that strong, thus we are playing the support game. We all have our roles in this steemit marathon. Thus most of our votes came from the people who we support, the people of steemit.

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Yes to this:
"promote what Steemit needs. Real people, real bloggers, real posts and original content."

I am new and know not a thing. I am enjoying searching out what I like and following and offering up my tiny upvote, and If I have something to say that adds to the conversation then I will do so. If a fraction of the new users just participated in the platform on these most basic principles then perhaps there would not be so many "dead" accounts. The promotion of Steemit off sight must have something to do with the unrealistic expectations of new users. What kinds of new community members is Steemit attracting?
Who is the face of Steemit attracting these new accounts? How are people hearing about Steemit? If everyone who wishes to promote original content found ten new creators in a month to join would that make a difference? Again. I know next to nothing about this sight. I am taking my time and meeting some interesting creators via their work and commenting. Right now this works for me. Better time spent here than elsewhere online for me.

Wow
What a post from a reputable steemian, you have just increase my respect for you.

Most people see these happenings on the platform and do nothing about it, it now business,business, business.

As a promoter of steemit offline and on other platforms, i get discourage to see these newbies suffer in the platform.

I wish other whales will join the likes of @fulltimegeek to sanitize the steem blockchain and make it a better flatform.
Thanks for this post.

Unfortunately the most generous people here don't have the ability to help very many, and the ones who care the most about the future of STEEM don't have the power to change anything. I'm never going to rape this place, I'll keep STEEMIN the way I always have. I'm not naive enough to think I can create any changes by myself, at least I have a clear conscience knowing I use my small power and earnings to help others.

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Ditto. I will keep doing what I am doing. If I am in a position to help a minnow or a red fish I can and will. If I fight the big bad whale I have made my point and I become part of his flagging culture and I may just be out of power to help anyone. My power lies in my ability to encourage fellow Steemians and hopefully bring more to the platform. We the people as in small people can eventually make a change.

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I'm really glad you're here Marion, and you're doing awesome encouraging discussions and engagement on the platform <3 Love seeing you out there!

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Thank you for taking my hand and showing me the way. xx much love and missed you all at the Beach

Ok, so you've listed out the problems it's about time we find a solution.

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I feel like a have a solution and I will be posting it next. It's a matter of getting the solution hard forked that will be the problem. Of course this is based on if the solution is well liked or not.

I see the bid bots as more harmful than @haejin, also remember something @haejin does hold a lot of Steem if he were to sell it probably Steem would go down in price real hard, cause a lot of people would take a sell off of that amount of Steem as a harbinger of bad times. Yes, I think @ned should communicate more, and SMT's have been only hype. But also, I don't think Steemit is going to fail because of this. Of course eventually there will be more evolved social platforms which will be the competition and these are the real danger.

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I think you may be a little confused on how this all went down my friend. Haejin owned 0 Steem. Ranchorelaxo bought Steem and pumped Haejin for 10 posts a day for months and now Haejin holds Steem. Ned is useless and does nothing for the platform. I wish Haejin, Ranchorelaxo and Ned would all sell off everything and leave. I would much rather have a good community driven platform with Steem worth 25 cents then this 3 dollar piece of pillaged shit.

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I think @ranchorelaxo and @haejin are very closely related, could even be the same person or groups of persons.
Also I think it is kind of selfish to wish the price to go down just because you don't like Haejin, Ranchorelaxo or Ned, and have a community that YOU like, despite the fact that many people Venezuelans, Africans, Asians are able to supplement their incomes with Steemit, include me in that combo.

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I think you're confusing @haejin with @ranchorelaxo.

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No, I think they are both the same thing.

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Ok, well I hate to burst your bubble but if the @ranchorelaxo account powered down, the price of STEEM wouldn't take that big of a hit.

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Oh, it would, because it could be like an avalanche once it starts it just gets bigger, and you see over 2 million dollars leaving maybe some other big holders leave too.

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Maybe if they left we could get the code changed so that your votes stop rounding down.

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For me that would mean going from 1 cent to 2 cents.

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Votes worth .019sbd or less round down and dont payout.

The steemit community is not different from the real world. Some times solving issues is not just about using violence, but also trying a diplomatic solution too.
Maybe it should be adopted in this case.

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I'm not sure why you are referencing "Violence" when none was mentioned. I do feel that Steemit is very similar to the real world as well. The real world is a centralized piece of garbage which is why a decentralized site such as Steemit was so intriguing to so many.

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By violence I mean the negative energy going on as a result of the flag war.

Use the two, the carrot and the stick, not just the Stick.

Loved your thoughts, damn agree with you. I hope this will make some impact on this system. Someone have to stop it but who will, i don't know. May be we all can do it together.
Resteemed

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That's absolutely where the answers are: Good people with good intentions working together.

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The main goal and design of the platform was for users to run it. We vote for witnesses and together the make changes based on consensus. The majority of these witnesses are doing nothing.

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Exactly !

Perhaps it is time for a fork of the Steem blockchain? I know that there are people who are happy to be the change required, and new people wanting to become witnesses for the right reasons. @davemccoy and @danielsaori would be such people and I hope that other witnesses too will join forces and create a new community that is working towards a better future for all the people that have managed to carry it this far.

Another voice raised against the obvious aberration going on in this platform. There are lots of community leaders working really hard to lift the image of this platform and attract the attention of investors. I wonder why a lot of SP is lying idle at @ned's account. This is supposed to be delegated out to hardworking Steemians.

I call on Ned to consider giving this delegations to community builders.

All the points of this piece are very valid. And something urgent needs to be done to salvage the situation.

@eurogee of @euronation community

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Ned delegating to Steemians who genuinely gaf would be GREAT.

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I agree 100% but Ned himself gives zero fucks :(

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Exactly

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Ned doesn't give a shit. The son of a rich banker is all he is. The face of the platform with a give a fuck factor of zero. If Ned delegated 50,000 Steem Power to 100 different Steemians who are leaders in different sectors perhaps it would help a lot in user retention.

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Exactly. Oh thank you so much @hendrix22. I wonder what Ned does in office daily; I really wonder if he reads all these complains. How on earth is steemit having almost one million registered accounts but with less than 70k active accounts. The retention here is nothing to write home about. This linear or cycle voting has to stop! He's becoming uninteresting every day. Dammit!

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I'm putting together a solution to some of the problems. I hope it gets some thought and not just thrown away

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Please do. This is a public investment; it a trust. We must all have a say. We must continue to talk. More and more people are really getting pissed with the present arrangement. So disheartening!

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There's a chance he's on to his next project already. That would explain the lack of involvement.

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Delegation was enabled to feed the rich at the expense of the poor.
If @ned wanted to help the average user he would idle his sp and take it out of the voting math.
If whale sp was idle there would be no rounding down of votes.

We need downvotes for witnesses.
They may not matter in the math but nobody likes being in public with a blackeye.
I agree with the place being doomed, once there are no more bigger fools the price collapses.
Then, maybe, we can rebuild from the ashes.

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The problem with the witness voting is the way it was setup. One witness vote from someone like Haejin (with Ranchorelaxo's proxy) is equivalent to like 100,000 new users votes. I would love to rebuild from the ashes :)

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Its coming.

Community downvotes would speak louder than their mvests.

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I agree! I would love to downvote the shitty witnesses :)

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Lol, all we have to do is convince them to allow us,....smdh.

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That's an interesting proposal, I like it!

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Please feel free to propogate it, all my ideas are open sourced,...

This is the reason we don't have Steem price goin up nor we get the value what we deserve.
At least we should have transparency in earning Steem and SBD.

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It's like a lose lose situation isn't it :(

Has anyone done a comprehensive list of witnesses we know are benefiting the community? If anyone has suggestions on who to upvote here would you mind listing them?

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I'm not aware of such list. It may exist but I doubt it. Are you knowledgeable on how the witness voting works? One of the main problems is that our votes don't mean shit. The large stake holders also choose the witnesses.

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Kind of, I actually proposed a fix to our voting systems on doodlebear's latest post. We need to be able to outright ban some of these people or take away their ability to make money on steemit. There has to be equal consequences to our actions you know?

Interesting take. I'm fairly new on Steemit. I'm still trying to figure out how this all works. If what you're saying is true, that's very disappointing. I'd like to see a full, transparent debate where both sides weigh in. I'm going to do more research on this.

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Changes are needed ask around and you will see. So many are seeking the changes but so few can make them.

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I will ask around. Thanks for sharing.

I would say just one thing about Steemit...How much whales did earn their SP by blogging?...Answer is obvious and it say a lot about bullshitology of this platform.

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It's definitely a tough code to crack. I actually welcome a collapse perhaps we can get a few more honest wallets on the real build :)

And so the cycle continues. We complain and complain and complain and keep steeming. We all see the problem but don't have the influence or the steem power to make a difference. A month into this platform and I already realize it isn't what I thought it would be. The concept and vision behind steemit is great but no system is perfect. So, I will lurk around and keep writing. I will rather move than complain about something I have no power over.
Who knows? I just might find success.

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We're taking action to try and stop abuse, it's pretty tough when it's such an uphill battle. @haejin has been downvoted over 8,000 times just this last month, but his earnings are still around 3,000 USD a day.

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Stats like this can't be more discouraging even if you tried to sugarcoat it.

We have a broken system where community disapproval has zero impact because the net SP up vote completely overwhelms the down votes given.

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IKR...imagine being downvoted 8,000 times in one month...just unreal that we have little to no effect.

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Yes my complaining is all to common just as common as your complaint about my complaining :). So with this many people complaining we must be right! The system is shit and needs to be changed immediately.

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I'm not complaining you're complaining. I'm complaining the complaining gets no where.
I hope this makes sense

I wrote long comment about many Steemit bullshit, but deleted it because it all comes to this simple truth...

No matter how we set up anything, it won't work until people's perception is only 'How can I benefit from it?!'

I wrote short article about it few months ago:

https://steemit.com/freedom/@cmoljoe/road-to-freedom-series-3-what-it-will-take-to-change-the-world

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Nice brother! I will check out your article now. I agree the problems are more the people then the platform. So the question should be how do we change the people form being greedy cunts to a more civilized sharing attitude

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In world where you are forced to have money, there will be always people who will try to game the system one way or another.

For example we could hardfork Steemit in way that is harder to exploit it, but greedy people will just find another way to cheat the system. We can ban Rancho from upvoting only Haejin and only thing he must do is to make 10+ new accounts and upvote with 20$ or 100+ accounts with 2$ upvote.

We can also set up 4 post limit per day, but that wouldn't matter for cheaters. They only need to open few more accounts and off they go...

So, all this talks about Steemit are pretty much useless because core of the problem stay and that is our dependence on money. Until that exist, there will people who gonna be greedy. They will always find way to cheat the system.

We can make million hardforks, but it will only cure the symptoms. The cause will stay and it will cause new symptoms and new one and new one...

The problem of Steemit goes beyond Steemit. I think it start from our delusion we need money at all. We are in trap of chasing money all our lives. That can be hard working man like you and me or some greedy dude, but we all are forced to chase it. That creates situations where some people want more no matter what. Steemit or whatever...it will stay that way until we need money.

But do we really need money? What is money? It's just numbers. Imagine if we delete all cryptos, bank electronic money and burn all paper money....what will happen?....Would river stop flowing? Would sun stop shining? Would plants stop growing? No, nothing will change. But it will change in human minds because it will freak out for their addiction drug called money. That say a lot about grand scale delusion we live in.

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Keep working, stop paying.

I feel a little foolish in that I was preaching about how awesome communities and SMTs will be. About 5 months later....nothing! Why isn't there an official Steemit killer iOS and Android App? Isn't most internet use mobile now?

I am also going to go down with the ship @fulltimegeek

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Yes we will be sinking in the same boat as well. At least when I sink I will have a clear conscious about my actions here on Steemit. My current rating on the pillaging scale is 0 out of 100 :)

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I wonder the same thing. Where is the awesome app! You think that would have been step 2 right after creating the fucking platform in the first place.

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We are of the same mindset!

I agree, but going after the abusers, including the ones that claim to go after abusers while up voting their own one line shit posts, would destroy my ability to support some folks that need the payout more than I do. Besides, I got no support when they targeted me with 14 bots so I have no qualms about using bid bots, though so far I haven't done so myself. I have started to up vote my own posts, I see this as fair game because there is another channel that made it to $96,000 posting 100% plagiarized Hollywood productions that are clearly not his own work.

Do we really want a revolution on Steemit where we collectively take down abusive whales? At what cost, and what will that do to Steem as an investment? As an investor I don't really need the aggravation of dodging whales with a bad attitude and long toes. They can have this platform all to themselves and I'll take my stuff somewhere else. Think about it; why would I spend 2 days making a video when a whale who hasn't even watched it can flag it with a $150 down vote? Why would any content creator want to be in such a place when plagiarism gets rewarded for stolen Hollywood movies?

I could go on and post the evidence, but what's the point?

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Maybe we can do something more together. @anthonyadavisii might be able to guide you .

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I post under my real name; I won't support anyone that doesn't use their real name in any collective effort. If it's on the level, it's worth using real names. That is also what annoys me about YouTube, too many anonymous entities that have nothing personal invested in any exchange.

I'll check out the link, thanks for taking the time. Greetings!

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Fair enough your point and i respect your grounds. Indeed what you said about youtubers.. nothing more to comment about that. My name is Viorel Galan and my name on here is Viog as you see coming from the name; there's also my introduction post if you want to know more about who i am. Nice talking to you, and hopefully we will engage more in the future. Just try and have a chat with @anthonyadavisii without any strings attached and see whether it fits your standards or your points of view. Thank you as well for your time. Have a steemy day ahead hehe . Cheers!

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Sorry for the late response Viorel, during the weekend I was on a movie shoot. Nice to meet you; I'll give you a follow to keep track. Greetings!
Onno.

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Thank you. And, no worries; as i said, no strings attached . Mm so you're an actor or something in the industry then ? Would like to know more when possible . Greetings!

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Your frustration is one of the main reasons why I demand that we need changes in the system here. There are so many users just like you. No need to post evidence my friend this happens all day around here. The bid bots are good for people to upvote their honest hard work yes I agree 100% but they are not good when they upvote oneline posts or plagiarism and definitely not good when you look at the profits made to the delegators either.

I am hopeful about the solution of all problems soon and our Steemit Family Live here with Love and Peace.

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Okay, so what can I do dear friend?

I agree with you!! And I have a solution!! :)

See my proposal to reduce self-voting and voting rings

Spot on. I actually wrote something about this a few days ago myself in response to a Jerry Banfield spam post: https://steemit.com/steemit/@beggars/no-steem-will-never-replace-bitcoin-as-the-1-cryptocurrency the spam and abuse on this platform is rampant. The more power and money you have, the more you can abuse it. And the platform had this chicken and egg problem because as a Minnow how do you climb the ladder when @haejin and others are raping the reward pool and giving nothing back? The developers seriously need to fix this place.

I have been trying my hardest to make it on this platform without playing the game, but I am not rich and can't afford to pay to win on Steemit. I pride myself on writing mostly good content, but it is never enough. I am moving slowly, but I know my chances of ever making it to the upper echelon of Steemit are quite low. I'm not going to give up just yet though. But something needs to change.

Couldn’t have said it better myself. It’s disgusting how ridiculous Steemit has become. I stick around hoping things will change, but the ship is lost at sea with no captain or crew!

I agree that something really has to be done here. It will most likely require both a change of users awareness and a system change to make the reward system different. If you check out the @steemcommunity witness you will probably like their work link to this.

I have also recently started my own witness, with support from @davemccoy, and one of the points in my witness announcements was exactly the topic of bid bots and how they overall harm the platform and the prospects for users.

It is clear that many of you have a big stake in this project. Perhaps that stake came about by churning out countless hours of quality content, or maybe by keeping a witness node humming without missing a block.

Imagine the range of motivations. Everything from a musician wanting to share their gift to the community to an investor wanting a good ROI.

My mind is blown away that the blockchain keeps on chugging at all. Yet these varied motivations seem to be complimenting each other at the moment. My feeling is that in time investors will play less of a role in this ecosystem... yet they're needed for the time being in my opinion.

There is a voting system that could ensure sympathetic witnesses sit in the sacred 20. This need be done like a campaign which it would be. A political party of sorts should be formed so as to vote as a block.

This political party idea was sketched out a bit in an old post of mine....

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@novacadian/exploring-alternate-ways-to-contribute-to-the-community

This project is in beta. The software is open source. If the ship can't be turned round there is the hard fork option. Ever heard of Bitcoin Cash? 😎

But when going for a hard fork know why you are going there. ie a fork approved by your voting block yet voted down with the sacred 20.

There is a running joke on many open source projects when a complant is given and that is, "Well code it yourself."

No matter how many hard forks this blockchain will see... know we are didgital astronaughts on the good ship Blockchain Technology. Your villian is greedily raping didgital tokens out of a supply which a hard fork would double in the blink of an eye. Wealth created by stake alone. Stake plays a bigger role than perhaps the investors. Powering Up is almost as good as throwing them into a pond to make a wish. That was downright genious in my opinion.

You will loose nothing in a hard fork but the name 'steem'. Now would be a good time for a Revolution if you had a working software alternative that solved the problems presented in this post.

With.the varied motivations of the user base a solution on this platform will require comprimise for concesus. Comprimise may be easier if we see the didgital tokens for what they really are instead of the fiat value given them.

My imaginings see my little pennies as gold star stickers like my grade two teacher generously gave out. 😎

@hendrix22, want to try a different way to attack it? I'm floating an idea, to see if there is any interest... greedforgood

Let me know if you want to hear more!

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I love this idea. Something to really consider and support it. I want to hear more :)

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You are the only one that seemed interested so far @foxyspirit, I might resurrect it though because one is all it takes to get me motivated ;)

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I think that is awesome. But sad at the same time. There are great ways to make changes, the right ways. Let's show the people and be the example. You are already doing great with all that you do. More people should see that.

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Thank you so much @foxyspirit! That is very nice to say :)

SMT is a freaking joke. I read through the entire drama involving @ned bragging about how it will stomp any attempt of competing with Steemit.

That is when I realized that losing @dan was probably one of the biggest mistakes Steemit Inc. made.

Hey, doesn't matter to @ned. He thought he cleverly "forced" @dan to reveal his intentions of competition against Steemit. Some CEO! HA!!

H just flagged a load of my posts to deprive me of rewards. This is just bullying.

I just want to figure things out here. I am not engaging in the haejin thing because the negative effect on a person is well shown and evident.

So the only thing I am seeing from you, please correct me if I'm wrong here, as to fixing things, is writing posts that complain about the system and pointing out the flaws and doing this flag war thing in hopes to get rid of him. But as you said hes not going anywhere.
What I am not seeing is you encouraging the positive actions on Steemit, acknowledging those that are not engaging in this war and trying hard to get somewhere. Nor do I see you supporting any of those people. ???
How about changing these tactics and put your votes for the greater good?
There are such great things people are creating for others that are not just 'circle jerking'... more on circle jerking after.
There is @newbiegames, @newbieresteemday.... I can't name them all here as I need a list, but these people are working hard in getting those good people known and boost them up so they too can get somewhere. Why not lend a hand to make this work.
Seek them out and see what's good for you. Isn't it time for a positive change? Just let go, I can feel the intensity.
And circle jerking... forgive me if i am seeing this wrong, but why is that such a bad thing for encouraging the people we connect with? Isn't that what Steemit is about, connecting?
It is next to impossible to connect with every single person out there. Sometimes our spirits are not kindred.
I do not see things the way you do, and I will not apologize for that part as I want no part of doing any negative harm to anyone. I do not want to poison myself with hatred and anger.
Please clarify something for me if you are so kind in taking the time to do so.... If you can foresee the closure of this platform and dislike the works and the people. Why don't you just leave and heal yourself from it? Rid yourself of this hatred you have and stop wasting your precious time that you have. Give your time and energy into something more positive and enlightening rather than the complete opposite and spreading the negative seeds into the people as well.