You are viewing a single comment's thread from:
RE: A look at transparency and hiding beneath the surface
PLEASE STOP TROLLING MY PAGE - @transparencybot @bycoleman & @tarazkp. You have three different accounts worth a total of 25000 Steem Power. You are upvoting your own comments and then making 70 cents per comment. Please leave my page alone. Your intentions regarding people abusing bots (with lack of quality content) is a worthy cause. However spamming pages with your "Transparency Bot" with original content is exactly that . . . SPAM.
Never in my life or years in crypto would I expect to see someone call Radical Transparency, spam.
Like legit the things we have fought for, Privacy with our money, Transparency in our data, and decentralization of our lives... The fundamentals of what we have all been trying to build, called spam.....
That's actually incredibly sad.
I left a comment on your other post but it has nothing to do with trolling and I have nothing to do with @transparencybot (if you read this post). It lets people know of large bidbot votes though, something I see as a community service as currently, there is no way to label it 'promoted'.
The votes you buy are drawing on a community pool which means your content is up for community review. If people do not think it is worth what it is drawing from the pool, they have a chance to flag the post. But, if they never see the post, they don't. That is why transparency is important. You might not agree with the bot but, many might not agree with the value on your post. However, some might think you deserve more.
If no one cares, you don't get flagged which is likely because people are inactive. If your content is worth it, you don't get flagged either. If it is crap and some one thinks it is not worth over 50 dollars, you might get flagged. That but has sent out almost 300 comments in 3 days to bidbot votes over 50 dollars, don't take it personally, it is just for transparency. That benefits us all.
@tarazkp let's not deceive ourselves. There is no transparency on Steemit. Kindly leave those who are using bidbots alone. It is their money and they have a right to spend it anyhow they wish.
If people like you were not more interested in self voting than they are in upvoting good contents from unknown people there would be no need for bid bots. Instead, those with huge SP want people to lick their boots before they upvote, so why will bid bots not thrive?
If bid bots must be stopped then self upvote too must stop. For me, that is the real transparency not the foul cry about innocent people using bid bots.
Regards
Before you go on, I have a paid delegation that I cover the cost of but, I return a lot more into the community than that and have done for a very long time. My delegation costs are fixed, which requires me to cover them regardless of the price of Steem.
Have you had a look at my content? Have you had a look at my comments sections? Have you had a look at the discussions? Now, go and have a look at many of the bidbot voted posts with much higher rewards. They are all drawing from the same pool. Their bought vote on their often low quality, largely useless content is drawing on the pool that the organic, human curators can use to vote on quality content. That pool is where your value comes from too.
This is the thing people keep saying about stake isn't it? Use it as you wish. I ahve earned my stake with a lot of hard work and I wished to upvote a comment from a community service bot. Freedom. I can also use it to flag if I choose.
I agree to some degree but, if you look at the pull on the pool from the bidbots, the manual curators don't have a lot of power anymore. Many of the ones who do delegate to bid bots. What is happening is the destruction of community for short-term profit.
You are entitled to your views, as am I.
Well, it's nice reading your view on this matter. While I am entitled to my opinion as well as you are entitled to yours, let it known that bid bots are not as bad as people make it seem.
I have to go now.
Sellah.
Bid bots are actually truly bad. Aside from the fact that they contribute to draining the pool, they also take money for it.
Maybe you may think this little part of the Wild Wild West (the www) is a short-term money grab but long-term bid bots are detrimental to the platform because they create a lopsided economy which attracts only short-term focused investors. AKA vultures.
If that works for you, that's fine but then you also have to understand that there are people who see a long-term potential value in steem.
We need no apologies, we need a possible future and that requires that the bot situation will at some point be taken care of because eventually bots will be the only ones to distribute rewards as popularity grows. To spread the community reward pool that means.
I appreciate your contrary views. I will respond appropriately when it is time.
The bid bots are even worse than they seem. Not only are they stealing rewards from genuine creators of worthwhile content, they are poisoning the STEEM environment through outright dishonesty. No one wants to play in a dirty sandbox and the bots are working overtime at poisoning the sandbox as well as the STEEM atmosphere.
The failure of technology is that the creators forget that, just because you CAN do something does not mean that it is moral to actually do it.
I understand your concerns, really. I am just surprised that we are making storm out of a teapot
It may be perspective. If you are IN the teapot, the storm takes on a different importance.
That's quite true.
VERY well said. Picking on the minnows is not only 'bully' behavior but also pathetic.
It is even a storm in a tea pot if you ask me.
Yep. Just looking to cause trouble.
He who comes to equity must come with clean hands. I just check your blog posts now and noticed that you are a serial self upvoter, although you don't use bid bots. You get an average of $13 SBD per post. Fantastic!
Not everyone is as lucky as you are. There are many people out there with $0.01 vote value. Have you thought about how frustrating it is for them when so much efforts are put into a post and the author gets only $0.05 payouts? Do you know that bidbots are key to the success of Steemit because it is an economy of its own? What happens if all the bid bots withdraw their SP from Steemit?
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
-African Proverb.
Regards.
Here, read the numbers.
25668 upvotes given (manual)
7123 comments (manual)
1493 posts (original)
I have been doing this for a while now quite consistently. At times, luck plays a role and at times, one has to do the hard work for luck to have an effect.
http://steemitboard.com/board.html?user=tarazkp
Do you know what happens if all SP on the platform delegates to bidbots?
here:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@tarazkp/10-little-idiots-trying-to-answer-or-if-everyone-delegates-to-bidbots
Indeed they shouldn't.
PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T THROW STONES - "Those who are vulnerable should not attack others. The proverb has been traced back to Geoffrey Chaucer's 'Troilus and Criseyde' . George Herbert wrote in 1651: 'Whose house is of glass, must not throw stones at another.' This saying is first cited in the United States in 'William & Mary College Quarterly' . Twenty-six later Benjamin Franklin wrote, 'Don't throw stones at your neighbors', if your own windows are glass.' 'To live in a glass house' is used as a figure of speech referring to vulnerability."
Well, I have to admit that you are a great Steemian after reading through your contributions to this community. I give my salute. However, your humanitarian acts do not make you right on this issue of bid bots usage. Unfortunately, I have a lot to say on this matter of @transparencybot which, as a critic, I should respond to in a lengthy article, soon. Of course, I will send you the link.
Meanwhile, let me say that if there are no bid bots, Steemit will fall into a situation where those with huge SP will have to be worshipped and bootlicked before they upvote the posts of unknown authors even when such posts are written by William Shakespeare. Sir, do you have a solution to such looming feudal system if bid bots are banned?
Do you also know that part of the demand for SBD and STEEM is generated by people who want to pay for bot services? How do you replace such demand for SBD and STEEM if there are no bid bots?
I have many more questions to ask in my article, which I hope to publish soon.
Regards.
looking forward to it. you can find me on discord or steem.chat
There is no problems. I will check you up. How do I locate you on discord? I don't really use it.
tarazkp on both chat platforms.
Alright. I will look you up.