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With out a simple upvote, peoples posts go un noticed, this inturn turns people away from steemit.

All new users of the seemit platform because they get told how good it is as you get paid to blog about things that they really care about, but yet some not all don't get the reconition they need.

As i want to help all new users get a good start on the this platform, I am trying my hardest to get through as many posts as i can, I upvote, follow and resteem so more people get to see them.

by resteeming people who follow me can see other peoples posts in there feed, i think this is an important part in getting people to see others posts.

My upvote shows that I do care, and i want other people to do well on this platform.

by following, later on in time, i can go back through the people I have upvoted and see how thay have done on this platform, which no bot can do.

this is all me, flipping through peoples posts looking for the ones i think need to be upvoted.

if you feel the same as me, then join me on this journey, follow me, upvote there posts and not just mine, because these people need it just as much as i do.

happy steeming people. and good look. :)upvoting.jpg

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I appreciate your sentiment, and what you say is true, but it's so hard to get people to simply open a post as indicated by the little eyeball next to the facebook symbol on the right.

I suppose that using a compelling picture header and choosing the right words at the beginning is the key here. But I think that there is so much content on Steemit, and the whales are mostly interested in curation rewards no matter what else they claim, and so are the other Steemians who would upvote and resteem, so getting read is not an easy thing.

If people would actually read my posts and then comment, even if, and maybe especially if, they don't agree with what I'm saying, I wouldn't feel that my hard work was unrewarded even without an upvote or a resteem.

Bots don't read, and whales never comment and neither do the bot trails that follow them. A nice, fat upvote from a whale does get more eyeballs on a post and quite often that leads to more comments, but the self-interest aspect of the Steemit platform is more about making money than actually sharing information. The information aspect is secondary, which is a shame IMHO.

I don't know whether I should comment this but I am going too. if all the minnows, that goes for me where to stop upvoting the high paid content and concentrated on upvoting minows, then this the money would not just go to the whales.
I feel like my post also don't get what they deserve, but for me this is more of a hobby than a way to make a living.
I was talking to a chinese guy at a steemit meet up not so long ago, and he explained to me that all his upvotes were from follows who he knew, then he would bring others in to that circle to make his group bigger. I know he is a whale, and he is one of my top upvotes on my other account.
But he started of small, just like every one else and got a circle of friends who are all now high paid bloggers on steemit.
I am not trying to annoy anyone with this comment, so i hope the whales don't get pissed with what I am saying as we do need them to knock up our upvotes. but fair has to be fair. we also want to get paid like them when it comes to posting on here.

Interesting that you fear the whales and possible reprisals. I wouldn't think they would invest in something like this to quash dissent. But who am I to question. I'm always wrong.

I feel like my post also don't get what they deserve, but for me this is more of a hobby than a way to make a living.

I see this sentiment a lot. I think it's a rationalization. @stellabelle posted a while back that in the Steemit Whitepaper that there is a reference to gambling addiction and how that helps drive the platform. I haven't read the Whitepaper so I can't confirm this, but it appears to be a valid observation. Every time I post, effectively pulling the handle on the one-armed bandit, I hope for a "winner," and every time I do win, I think that at last things have changed for me and I will now be able to make my time here worthwhile. I'll get a 150 Steem post, but then my next 10 posts generate mere pennies. It is just like an addiction. They know this and they keep us going this way until we finally give up in frustration. But for every minnow that gives up there 10 new fishies who join. It's a good gig if you can get inside the circle.

I don't have a lot of writer friends. I'm pretty much a loner. The vast majority of people who I talk to don't even have a clue what a blockchain is or how cryptos work. They won't join. They don't even post on Facebook or in the comment section of the websites they read. They only look, not participate.

I'm not one to sit in a chat room either. I find most of what's being talked about quite boring. Maybe I'm just in the wrong room but I cannot seem to find anything that interests me there.

I always give a 100% upvote whenever I read something or reply to a comment even if I don't agree. And I never upvote my own posts or replies. Doesn't seem to do much. Few reciprocate. All it does is to make my posts less valuable. But it is the golden rule I live by. I always try to set a higher standard for people to emulate. They seldom do in this world racing to the bottom.

Thanks for commenting even though you didn't want to. To me that's what make this platform interesting and valid.

Thanks for the reply.
I have two wales that follow my other account and that took some doing, I met them in person and put time and effort into getting to know them. I didn't do it for the upvotes even though reading what I have just put now sounds like I did it for that reason.
I went to steem fest and met some amazing people and thats were I met them, if I had not talked to them then i don't think i would get the upvotes I need.

While I was talking to them, they dropped me some inside information,

  1. make friends with people and have your own circle on here, only upvote these people as they will up vote you back
  2. always take in more people, bait them with a little bit of up-votes as they will remember you and later they will up vote you big and every pennie adds up.
  3. don't give up, there are plenty of people on this platform. and the key is to make a chain.

this thing to do with not upvoting your own posts is a good rule to follow, but some people ie myself need to power up my steem to help new users, this way with this account I can go that step further and offer bigger pay outs to newbies.
I still read through alot and up vote things that I find interesting, but this account is all about upvoting and following new users to give them a better chance.

the points I make at the top are just narrowed down from the conversation i had with them, and that does not mean that every whale does this nor am i saying they do this either, it was just implied.

That makes sense. This is really a platform about making money, not reading or writing anything of value. While there may be some philanthropy by the whales, the majority are only going to upvote posts they think will be popular, and by their upvotes they make them popular because there are bots and followers who want to jump on that bandwagon and get heavy upvotes as well.

I really appreciate this information. It clarifies a lot for me. If you've visited my blog, you'll note in my banner I claim to be a fool. I truly am. My criteria for writing is far different from most of the bloggers here.

  • I tend to upvote 100 percent whenever I read and comment on a post.
  • I do have a couple of people I follow and upvote, but not that many simply because I'm only going to support what I feel is quality information, not fluff.
  • My upvote potential seldom falls below 80 percent since there isn't much quality on Steemit to upvote IMHO.
  • Often the people I follow have ideas diametrically opposed to mine. I don't troll, but I try to get people to think about the things they are saying, not just reacting from their conditioning or regurgitation what they've been told. That makes for interesting conversations. They don't often upvote me in return since I'm rubbing their noses in polemic.
  • I agree to disagree. If I only followed people I agreed with I would learn nothing. I'm kind of like an ant at a picnic, not real popular.

Given your above exposé, I now understand why I'm not gaining much traction here. This has been very enlightening. Thank you.

This platform has only been going maybe a couple of years and the orriginals who came to it first have alot staked in this community, it would be nice for the whales to up vote minnows stuff, and in all fairness I have seen it happen.

I too only upvote the stuff that means something to me, I look at peoples posts and if i see something i like I give it an upvote.

I have been upvoting following and resteeming new peoples post who to me seem to be the ones who right now have took the time to write about them selves and why they have come to steemit.
if any off the people i follow start to wonder of track and post items that are copy write, i will stop the up voting and seace to follow them, as this goes for everything I stand for.

like i said before, if you find 10 people who are interested in the same thing as you, and you guys upvote each other, you would inturn make money from your posts, instead of having to rely on the odd up vote here and there, if you get me.

I like to have followers, but it seems that the big hitters on here have 1000's of followers and there posts get the massive upvotes, where i don't have that kind of following and i get pence.

its all about who you know not what you know. :)

How does one become a whale? Getting a lot of upvotes?

I believe its done in nodes, the more nodes you have the more powerful you are. this is what steem is based on.
the best way to get more power is to invest money into steem, place it in to your account and then you will have power. this in turn will have more of a posative infulance on votes, comments.
Before xmas steem value was very low at $0.80, but the price has risen massively, this would have been the best time to buy.
On my other account I watched my account go from $355.00 to $3300 over the xmas period, it has dropped a little bit but I know some one who is a crypto analasist, who i have met on here and face to face who says by 2020 the steem value will be at between $70 to $80 each. this is a massive rise, and my other account, if i stopped posting now would be valued at $30.000 thats a big peice of cash for blogging :)

I just invested, and purchased some steem power. I'm new to all of this, and I find that steem power has more value than the steem dollars and tokens. I'm still trying to figure out how much my upvotes are worth. Got to do more research on this. It's so overwhelming.

when you have $500 in steemit, you get a slider, this means you can give as much and as little up to what your steem power is worth. so my account at $3000 dollors lets me upvote at 100% will give the total pay out to $0.30. if i was to do 10% that would be $0.03 that how steem is right now.
My account on the name @drewturner is currently at about $3.30 and my upvote is 0.01c, if i am to up vote more than i think 10 times the value decreases.

On my other account i try not to hit 100% on any post as that wipes out my poswer after 10 upvotes so I tend to do 50% upvotes unless something is really really really good. :)

you can also check your stats of your account by using these two sites.

steemd.com
steemstats.com

For some reason tonight i can't get on to them, they might be down for a while. but they are worth a look, you have to enter your steemit name and it gives you all the details you need. no password so it seems safe to me. :)

It is really discouraging to see 0 upvotes on a post you really worked hard on. Keep up the good work man, I'm upvoting the ones you resteemed as much as I can, hope it helps people.

Don’t be discouraged. I just do it because I enjoy writing about my travels. Just keep doing what you’re doing. I don’t upvote posts that are not original content. If it was a cut and paste, I ignore those.

this is deffantly what you need to do, upvote orriginal content only, no copy and paste stuff as this is just wrong. if people can't think of stuff to write by them selves then why should they get paid for it.

thank you for the confidence, i think that if people stick together, like with me and up vote others work, we could get a little chain going at some point, so that people see others work and we get to see bigger pay outs. I will look at your work now. :)

i noticed that you are one of the first people I started doing the resteeming for lol. you have a good chance with going along way with what your posting. i will try my best to up vote as much as i can, but wiht my steem power been so low at the min I can not offer more, i hope you understand.

Oh I understand, I really appreciate what you do :)

Sometimes I wonder if anyone reads my content. Seems like people read the ones that have been copied from other websites, and not the original steemit content.

alot of people have said the same, I have another steemit account i bought my self with my own money, and its took me months to get a following, i am getting about 0.70$ per post which is hard for me to see as i spend alot of time on this platform, this is why I am using this account to do for other what I would like to be done for me. I have found that if you get some one like my self to follow you, when I get more powerful with up votes you will get bigger rewards. i hope this helps. i will take a look through your work as well :)

I have just looked through your profile, and you do have upvotes, you have got some interesting things on there too. i think with a little more time you will see that you will get regualr followers and in turn bigger pay outs :)

I actually would rather have Steem power than have Steem dollars or tokens.,I feel that my upvotes carry more value. When I like people’s content, they get revenue. I get paid well at my job, and I just blog because I enjoy it.

you see steemit is a hobby for me, I too work, i get paid and that covers everything i need, luckly i can be on steemit while i am working, I would rather have steem power.
I am a nice guy that thinks about others first before my self, but you only have my say so on that lol. I came to steemit as I know some one who has been on here for 18 months and now does not have to go to work :)
I wish i had that kind of money coming in as i would love to spend more time with my girls and little lad.
but until that day I just keep going. :)

Exactly. I do it too because it is an outlet for me. A hobby! I’m planning on setting up a DTube channel soon, so I can record my travels and perhaps do some tutorials.

thats pretty cool mate, drop me a link to your channel and ill take a look at this :)

I don't have any videos on DTube yet, but I'll keep you updated! I'm going to think of some helpful materials, and how to save $.

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