ATT: STEEMIT COMMUNITY If You Are Using A Free Image Hosting Site To Upload Your Photos:: What happens if the site shuts down?
If I'm understanding this correctly, all of your links disappear from your posts, that's what. For some of you that could be hundreds, even thousands of gaps in your blogs; lines of script where your pictures used to be. The time it would take to repair that kind of damage? Do you have that kind of time?
@frankswi has an excellent idea on a possible solution to this titanic problem, click on this link to read what he has to say:
If you're like me and have a difficult time with technical things, Ask Questions, I believe that together we can brainstorm and bring a solution to fruition. This is an EXTREMELY important issue for all of us.
http://dirtyimg.com/
Awesome, thanks for the link craig! It's definitely a huge upgrade from what I was using! (However, if it shuts down it still leaves the same problem of losing all of your images...) You're a crypto-currency genius, you know about storj and how they work, right? Giving coin in exchange for hard drive use...is it possible steemit can come up with a similar platform? At some point, anyway?
dirtyimg only stores the image for 15 mins, so you have 15 mins to post it on steemit then it is deleted from dirtyimage, but still remains on steemit, this means worrying about image hosts shutting down is not an issue, for your image to go away then steemit would have to shut down, not the image host.. try dirtyimg, you will see, it was created by a steemian for steemit users
Okay then, that's a huge problem solved, thanks man!
the same rule applies to all image host, not just dirtyimg
Okay, wow, great!!
this image was uploaded and posted in my blog about 1 week ago, it no longer exists on dirty image as it was deleted after 15 mins.. but it is still on steemit. if you copy the url and paste it in your browser you can see iot does not exsist on dirtyimg, but it is on steemit
dirtyimg.com/image/6677.jpg
As I said, huge problem solved! That's awesome, thanks again! Beautiful photo too :)
Have you tried the new kid on the block? www.steempix.com
Oh wow, this is an old post! Haha, actually these days I just drag an image directly from my folders and drop it in steemit, works great :)
Have you tried the new kid on the block? www.steempix.com
As I understand it, Steemit copies the post image(s) to their "centralized servers" and the associated Steemit links are then persisted on the Steem blockchain.
One of the problems with this is that Steemit is a centralized corporation that could potentially be served with a cease and desist order from, say, a government agency.
Apparently, actually hosting the images on the Steem blockchain would likely result in scaling issues for the Steem witness nodes.
Maybe some kind of sharding approach could be used to mitigate the scaling problem?
If you click on the link I shared @frankswi has another possible solution. It's easier if you read what he has to say and the comments below, and we can go from there. Thanks for taking interest!
I looked into what you said @cognoscere and found this article: https://steemit.com/censorship/@timcliff/reminder-only-text-is-saved-on-the-blockchain Which states that only the links are saved, not the images themselves. So if your image hosting site went under, your pictures would indeed disappear. There are a couple of ideas that are going back and forth on @frankswi 's page.
To clarify too though - there is the Steem blockchain, and there are the Steemit servers. The Steem blockchain is the decentralized network where all of the posts/votes/etc. are stored. The Steemit.com servers are hosted by Steemit, Inc. Steemit, Inc does store a local copy of the images - so if your third party hosting site goes down, the images for the posts should still load, but Steemit, Inc can be censored - so images stored there are not as "safe" as what is on the blockchain.
Gotcha...did you see the link Craig-grant gave me? That appears to settle the issue, haha! Besides, my only real concern was that the pictures could disappear from the posts, leaving holes and lots of work. I've been happily chatting back and forth with the lovely @merej99, so thank you!
One possible solution to go around the potential censorship would be to use IPFS...I think
Thanks for the tip!
Have you tried the new kid on the block? www.steempix.com
http://dirtyimg.com/
Very interesting post @dreemit, thanks for sharing, I will follow the suggested links.
That's great! You are a man of your word ;) Thank you!
I think the issue as to whether or not steemit.com copies the post images and stores them on its centralized image-hosting servers is important for us to get clarified. Because then, at least there is less chance of trouble. That assumes steemit.com sensibly backs up all images on their servers.
Of course having the images safely persisted on the Steem blockchain would be ideal, but apparently that's a difficult scaling problem that is being addressed by potential solutions on several fronts.
I've been using imgsafe.org and/or postimage.com, and using their direct links in my posts. What I can see is that the links to my images get changed after submitting the post.
For example, for this recent post of mine: Busy Beavers at the D&R Canal:
This is the link I put for the first image when creating the post: https://i.imgsafe.org/b7e2d2e779.png
And this is the link Steemit created after the post goes live:
So, in that final image link, does the img1.steemit.com part of the URL show that steemit.com is indeed copying and storing the images on its servers? Or is it just a proxy through to the original image hosting site that I used?
@timcliff said this in the comments: "To clarify too though - there is the Steem blockchain, and there are the Steemit servers. The Steem blockchain is the decentralized network where all of the posts/votes/etc. are stored. The Steemit.com servers are hosted by Steemit, Inc. Steemit, Inc does store a local copy of the images - so if your third party hosting site goes down, the images for the posts should still load, but Steemit, Inc can be censored - so images stored there are not as "safe" as what is on the blockchain."
Also, did you see the comments by craig-grant? While I still would like to see a more fluid system with safeties in place, I know there are so many issues the administrators have to work out. Craig gave us a link to a much more secure form of uploading, the creator of this image hosting site is on steemit, here's his original post: https://steemit.com/dirtyimg/@blueorgy/dirtyimg-steemit-temporary-image-hosting-solution-utilizing-steemit-image-caching
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