RE: Steemit Pedophile Ring Exposed
While I fully accept your reasoning, in the UK you could potentially be accused of being part of a 'ring' by virtue of your follow. I would suspect the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) would see your upvote as an indication of participation in that group even if the upvote was for a benign post. I've just had a quick read through the "Joint Enterprise" law (Section 48) https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/assets/uploads/files/Joint_Enterprise.pdf which deals with social media specifically, Facebook gets a mention. While it talks about violence and robbery it repeatedly states "Crime" and child porn is a crime. I'm no lawyer but I suspect anyone associated with those accounts might come under a spotlight somewhere down the line.
It's great that people make the community or at the very least the moderators aware of this kind of thing, my only worry is there are idiots out there who will go and have a look if only to see what all the fuss is about.
Did you ignore the rest of my post?
Or are you just being technical?
You're wrong of course otherwise being subscribed to a youtube channel or following someone on Twitter would also implicate you in the same way. There's no way they would take that argument seriously. I see you didn't think that Steemit holds an even greater potential legal responsibility and not to mention all the bots set up to send upvotes for SBD you could claim are funding them. They aren't implicated but potentially numerous bot driven upvotes and followers have been and which you've argued could be technically justified when such "direct" funding and hosting is objectively far more serious. You can't defend the idea that they can be said to be a "ring" without implicating Steemit and the whale vote bots even more.
And if you want to get technical, as I said, the image was not actually child porn. It wasn't even porn, and it's absolutely NOT clear the girl is under 18 anyway. What was nsfw about it? The headline.
Umm? I think PC Plod would disagree with your "You're wrong of course" any self-respecting rozzer will use communications with criminals as evidence of complicity. Ignorance is no defence in the UK and many European countries too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorantia_juris_non_excusat so saying "We'll yeah, detective. I follow them but I'm not involved in any of that stuff." possibly won't be believed.
I've read what I suspect is your second paragraph starting "I see you didn't think that Steemit holds an even greater potential legal ".... three times now and I still have no idea what you're talking about.
TBH. I don't care. I've not looked at the accounts, I have no intention of looking at the accounts. I'm not sure why, but you seem to be coming across as aggressive IMO so I'll leave you to it.
The thing is @dickturpin - someone on a site like steemit, doesn't even need to click on the article to upvote it. Not only that, even if they had clicked the article, seen the photo - who is to say that they believed the photo was of an underage person. The photo in question looks like someone who could be of age. A third argument I would like to make is that on a site like steemit, I personally would never imagine someone posting child pornography. This is not that type of site, and people are not stupid enough to post such harmful things on the internet, where they can be linked to their account. Someone who enjoys posts of nudity, could have upvoted the article, with the assumption that content posted on steemit is safe and legal.
This is why people should not just blanket upvote. They should give their voting some thought before clicking on the button. Most sensible people read a document before signing it, upvoting is no different IMO. :-)
Do you honestly think paedophiles care about what social media platforms think is acceptable? Given they are aware their activities are illegal they will always use a service until they are closed down.
Upvoting an signing are completely different things - Thats not my opinion that's just a fact.
And yes, I absolutely do think pedophiles care what media platforms they use, given how it is highly illegal and they most likely will be investigated by a body of authority and a legal case will be started against them. Pedophiles post their content through the black web, with VPN software that will help mask their identity.
Not to mention this platform is completely based on creating content, gathering a following, and maybe making some money. Nobody in the right mind would jeopardize their blogs that they have arguably put some effort into for a simple upvote.
Why would they upvote? They could secretly like it without upvoting if they were indeed pedophiles and then nobody would know that they liked it, and they wouldn't be getting shit on because someone wanted to make a fluff piece shock article to make some cheap money off the irrational and emotional responses to this.
I thought the point of voting was an endorsement of the work produced? Upvoting is no different to the 'Like' button on Facebook. If anything it's potentially worse as there can be a financial reward attached to your vote if you so choose. You're basically saying "I like your work so much I want to give you some money."
Most of these pedo's use social media platforms for pretty much the same reason as you and me. To make new contacts and exchange everything from ideas, viewpoints, story's and of course images. A lot of these individuals are pretty computer savvy. I've already seen some people on Steemit have been 'outed' for creating fake accounts by using friends and aquintances photos as proof of reality. It would be trivial for some low-life to create an account that was potentially untraceable.