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RE: Helsing: Governance Ideas (Good/Bad whales needed)

in #steemit6 years ago

I do think this idea is good and any whales involved will deserve a lot of respect since this will prove they really care about this platform.

The biggest question is, who would have the keys to this account?

I see you mentioned a quorum which sounds nice in theory, it would have to be tested in practice though. Either way, I think the biggest whales involved (the one with the most delegated SP) should each have the password for this account.

And they have to be active whales, so in the case there is a need to dissolve the monster killer, it could really be dissolved in 1 or 2 days. If a whale goes on vacation, leaves a big delegation on this account and Van Helsing starts to act irresponsibly, it could be a huge problem.

So only active whales, and if going inactive for a while, they should undelegate until they return.

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I see you mentioned a quorum which sounds nice in theory, it would have to be tested in practice though.

This is what I want to have happen.

When delegation is cut, it is cut. so even if it goes rampant, with 200 delegators, nearly all will cut the power immediately.

If there were 200 delegators, there would rarely be less than 80 or 90 percent far away from steemit. If Steemit is part of it, it can of course undelegate very fast.

The biggest question is, who would have the keys to this account?

I don't see this as a major issue but it would go to several most probably based on some votes.

Playing devil's advocate on this if it is Rep that causes such an increase how did that TA guy get to 76? Who with the high Rep has been up voting him. I always thought it was that relaxation guy only and his Rep is only 52.

Helsing is a good idea but if it doesn't get delegation how long would it take to remove his rewards and rep if every account north of 65 rep took one self vote per day and gave it as a flag to the TA guy? If everyone did their part and self sacrificed in place of proposing we take more that can be given this would already be a non problem. Is the problem big enough to complain about but not big enough to give up one self vote per day?

The data showed only @papa-pepper doesn't self vote so he would also be excluded from the flagging if being realistic.

The problem is that they attack the smaller accounts like bias narrative. 65 doesn't mean power of vote and it can really smash them.

Yes, the key would be a group working together. Can't hurt an army of flags but it is easy to single out select users.

Everything can work exactly the same without wasting delegation for flags. There are many other up and coming projects that could use it much more if people are willing to give up 1% for the benefit of the community.

Look at the groups that have already been hurt or dismantled in order for select large users to flag. So hundreds are being hurt to combat one user.

Looking at this image from 3 months ago:

And this image from today:
Screenshot-2018-3-8 Steem Supply.png

There is more steem in the reward pool, not less. Just the value of steem has been affected.

Yes it is crazy retarded growth but no more than any of the bid bot accounts are growing.

you know what I think about the bidbots too...

I do indeed! And the whole flag war is driving many more people to use them as not as many up votes are being used on accounts.

That is why I wrote the other one today about the cost of good whales fighting alone.

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