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RE: The Announcement of SF 22.8888

in #steemit2 years ago

I would like to reiterate what I stated in my comment on that post. Soft fork 22.8888 is not good for this platform. I would encourage you to not stay neutral, but speak out against it because it is wrong. Whether you are involved or not, it diminishes the value of this blockchain. I encourage you to publicly call for an end to the freezing of anyone's legitimately acquired stake, and:

If @steemitblog or @justinsunsteemit wish to limit spam and milking, they should use the @steemit stake to downvote content which is doing those things, and use their stake to upvote content which is qualitative.

If @steemitblog or @justinsunsteemit wish to limit the dumping of steem, and the mass exodus of users, they should give them reason to stay by bringing quality to the platform which can't be matched by hive, and enhancing the value of Steem.

Please consider what is best for this platform in the long run. It is not right to do this to anyone. Focus on what will enhance the blockchain for everyone, and denounce what will tarnish it.


You can't believe any of this. They are not staying neutral in any way, they are actively supporting the "witnesses" who support the soft fork and have unvoted those who didn't. They have no interest in what's doing what is best for the platform in the long run (obviously based on their actions), they simply want to dump their STEEM for a profit - Justin said this directly on one of the witness calls.

I know you guys are upset about not being included in the Hive airdrop, but by voting for the fake witnesses you were knowingly supporting exactly what is happening now and what you say that you do not support. My strong suggestion would be that you sell any STEEM you have asap and if you still want to be a part of the original vision of the Steem platform you can buy HIVE with the proceeds.

I will do what I can to support you and your dad on Hive and over time will more than make up for what you missed in the airdrop.


I will always be appreciative of your kindness. I do believe that you will do great things no matter which chain you are on, and I wish you the best of luck in those endeavors! I still love your game (and on a side note, I was curious if you have released the lore yet so I can try to write music based on it). I think my main goal in this comment was to convey the idea that freezing stakes is wrong no matter who does it. It doesn't matter who is involved. It is always wrong.

In regards to Hive, I don't know what to say. What would you do if you were barred from something before it had even begun? I have spent 4 years acquiring what I have, and building connections in this community, all to be publicly shamed for doing what I thought was right. I know you might not think that what we did was to promote decentralization, but we did not vote for this. We voted for competition between two hostile factions so that neither one could dominate the chain.

But if you were me, would you trust the group that already took your stake away once? Would you work to acquire a stake and build reputation when it can be just as easily ripped away again? Why should I trust those who have publicly shamed me? Why should I come back to a community that has already disowned me?

Here I have a stake; here I have a small voice in what happens. There I have nothing; there I am voiceless. Two weeks ago I didn't even have the resource credits to post. I only got those because of the pending author and curation rewards. I can fight to end the corruption here. I can do nothing about it there.


This reply was for @yabapmatt. The original comment pertained to the Steem blockchain. Please do not reply about Hive here if you are not @yabapmatt because that is off topic. I would like to discuss the future of Steem here, not Hive.

You were fine with your decision. You were happy to vote for what you believed in. What changed? Money. That's what changed. Now, suddenly, you're not happy with your decision because it meant there was money involved that you did not receive due to the decision you made that you were happy with, until there was money involved. This entire guilt trip you wrote is unnecessary. There was a chance to appeal and receive the airdrop on the table since day one. That exclusion list was never meant to be interpreted as a 'final decision.' Why are you leaving that part out? Why does everyone leave that part out when they feel like being victims? I find that behavior to be quite peculiar.

Do you realize when I voted for what I believed in, I had no way of knowing in advance I'd be receiving an airdrop? Nobody knew there would be a hardfork and an airdrop. Nobody voted for a hardfork and an airdrop. We had no way of predicting that outcome.

Some people chose to strengthen a Sybil attack. Those politics you got yourself mixed up in were pointless. You were either actively participating in a hostile takeover, or you weren't. The code didn't care what your name was, where you're from, what you believe in. Those things didn't matter. If you're to include those involved in a sybil attack in a fork of chain that only exists to get away from the sybil attack/hostile takeover/shit-show (whatever you want to call it) then that would make the new fork pointless because it would come with a hostile takeover already in effect.

So they simply removed those accounts and created an appeal process. So simple and only logical. Quite professional. Now all you folks have to do is appeal. Not act like victims or attempt to villainize those who only did what they thought was right, which in essence was no different than what you did.

You are more than welcome to join Hive. What you call "public shaming" is all in your head but I do think some of you folks need to grow up.

I never stopped believing what I did was right, and what was done was wrong. You can hold my stake over my head with this so called "system of appeals", but I will never say that what I did wasn't right, and what they did was. I love how you assume that I want to be a part of Hive. I am happy where I am. Why don't you go back to hive where you belong with the other "grown ups"?

Nobody is asking you to stop believing what you believe in. I'm glad that you love how I was wrong in assuming you'd be interested in Hive, so I'm unsure now if I should apologize or take that as a compliment. If you're happy where you are and not interested in Hive, that's cool with me. I have no problem with that at all and should now assume you're not interested in those Hive tokens either, so at least that's all cleared up and I now know you're not feeling as if you actually lost out. I'm sure that makes you feel better, and you feeling better makes me happy. I wish you all the best, young man. Good luck here on Steem.

P.S. Telling me to go back where I belong and treating me as if I'm some kind of low life scum was unnecessary but I can accept that's how you'd prefer to treat people, all while worrying about how you look when you talk about 'public shaming'. If it's up to everyone else to make you look good, we'll most likely fail if you have an attitude like that. Sorry.

so you think that this thing that justin and steemit is doing right now is ok? you are fine with it?

No. Did you even read my original comment? Here are the first two sentences since you obviously missed them:

I would like to reiterate what I stated in my comment on that post. Soft fork 22.8888 is not good for this platform.

There weren't two factions. There was justin, and there was everybody else. Just because the majority of the old witnesses agreed on one thing, it's a huge mistake to treat them as a homogeneous group. That just shows that you never cared about their individualities. And it somehow negates the respect you claim to have for yaba.

Thank you for your unwanted opinion. As I see it, there was a group of individuals promoting extortion, and there was a group of less individuals promoting censorship. I voted to keep the two cancelling each other out. And that group of individuals who started hive kicked me out for it. Good luck on hive.

ha ha ha....
We have think for future. I agree .
They all started discussion and then they told us you started this. Who started the drama. And till now don't want to stop after creating Hive also.

Now, steemians are doing only reaction. The universe rule : Every action has a reaction.
The Hiveians wants they do action and also do reaction. They want to control everything. According to their choice.

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