Why @cheetah sucks and why i'm going to call this DISCRIMINATION.

in #steemit7 years ago

ATTENTION: I'm going to Use CAPS (Profanity allert? not sure.) They are not meant as shouting, but to provide extra CLARITY.

And yes, I did read the FAQ. https://steemit.com/steemit/@cheetah/faq-about-cheetah

Now let's do this.

When I like music and try to share that music with my followers then @cheetah singles me out, rats my post to the steemcleaners.org.

Thing is this: I'm a DJ I promote music, I BUY music, I OWN music, and I'm BY LAW permitted to SHARE music that I OWN AND PAID FOR. I'm a DJ, I did a weekly radio show, and also had an online radio show. Not that important, everyone should be able to share anything if they want.

Ok, then I came across this post:
https://steemit.com/news/@whaley/kinder-bueno-ice-cream-cone

Someone, who isn't even an icecreem professional, likes a new icecreem, has not even BOUGHT the icecream, but already is doing MARKETING for the icecream.
May perfectly fine POST ARTICLES ABOUT THE ICECREAM, and CAPITALISE ON THE ICEREAM without even OWNING the icecream

@cheetah is disciminating me.

Now lets hear it.

Is it time to get rid of @cheetah or not?

But wait there is more:

When I go to www.BOF.nl (bits of freedom) an organisation that raises awareness of online privacy issues. And copy an article that they ASK to be shared.
They literally say on their website PLEASE SHARE THIS ARTICLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

And I do that, here on my FAVORITE / ONLY social media platform that I use. THEN AGAIN the @cheetah bullshitter is going to single me out.

WTF!?

This beast should be set free in the wildernis never to be seen again on steemit or anywhere else.

Yes I'm pissed.

Measuring with difefrent values is a form of discrimination.

If it quacks like a duck then it's not always a duck. It can be the kid next door trying to talk like Donald Duck. O wait that's also copyrighted. Just shoot the kid then, eh?

@cheetah's stats right now:

cheetah (73) 277403 posts

WTF? a reputation of 73 for discriminating steemit users 277403 times.

This form of automated surveillance should GO.

RIGHT NOW!

Sure you want to 'protect' copyright, but you should not be doing that like a tyran.
I paid a lot of money for my music collection. and I mean A LOT of money. And I want to share the music that I OWN in any way or form that's possible.

I'm happy to receive my money back FROM THE MUSIC INDUSTRY and destroy the music, never to be played again.
As long as that is not happening don't discriminate me for PROMOTING ANY PIECE OF MUSIC THAT I OWN, LIKE AND WANT TO SHARE WITH THE PEOPLE I CARE ABOUT.

Now, let me hear the lame excuses.

And please don't bring up DRM as an option.

Again, I'm pissed, and I'm sure that's noticable.

Still I hope this article is being seen as CONSTRUCTIVE feedback to make Steemit and it's deriviates a more humain place to hangout. Without being controlled by the machines.

Thanks for your attention.

And PLEASE help to spread the word and find a better solution for this.

It was a nice try, but this needs to be done different.

FAIL! :-) Next...

I'm not sure if it ever will be possible for a service provider to 'police all the things'.

I fight for my freedom to SHARE THE THINGS THAT I OWN.

. YUP Guilty as charged! :-D

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Yes, I had my frustrations with that pest thing myself not to long ago, and it lied to me saying it upVoted my post which it did not.

I really hope someone can think up something better soon. This just looks bad. This is just not what freedom is about.

I made music, and copyright is not soupposed to be a surveillance / sensorship / manipulation tool.

Without free radio stations we only would have a very limited choice of very boring pop-stars.
Music is there to be heard, not to be swept under the carpet.
And don't punish people for sharing music. And certainly not people who spend a lot of money on music. It's an insult.

very real issues here. I think @simon62 could have a lot to say about this as he is actively warring against cheetahbot flagging each and every one of his posts.. utter discrimination and abuse. He tried to speak with them to get answers and gets no where

I kinda understand what they TRY to do with cheetah, but it just fails at every level. And by that it does more damage to the steemit platform itself.

But i guess it's cool to kiss up to the copyright fearmongers.

Before acting as the police they need to learn about the responsibilities of power. And to me they have shown to disregard those more then a little.

Cheetah should just be set out in the wilderness and lest alone. Accept that it's not working.
Stuff like this should have dealth with at the core, en NOT as an artificial patch layer on top.

Cheetah is mopping up water with the water still running.
And as the platorm grows, there will be far more water then what cheetah can battle.

The cat will drown... That's why it's best to set it free in the wilderness right now, then allowing it to make our lives miserable out here. I hat to see the cat drown. I prefer to see it in a nice documentary.

🙌👏👏👏 seriously I couldn't agree more but most people want to hold onto their possessions and creations so no one can claim their work but in all honesty, who cares? Ideas, info, art whatever is all made to be shared.. no piece of work defines anyone so if someone took my work and wanted to pass it off as their own so be it! It clearly struck a chord with them if they see enough worth in it to steal it.. my job is done, my passion is fulfilled as soon as someone connects with my work. The torch is meant to be passed - that is how innovation happens and how ideas spread.
If we accept that most people actually DO HAVE A MORAL COMPASS then we should know most will not sneak up and steal your hard work then profit like cray off it - No they may borrow pieces or grab it as a reference but surely kind people will give you the recognition you deserve and bam! your name and work is now reaching brand new circles of people!

There is also the Remix point of view.

How many great music was made by sampling the work of other musicians and using it in new ways. This was subject to the same copyright bullshit of the music industry.

If it was for the copyright elite, then Hip-hop never would have existed. Yet look how much money the music industry makes in the Hip-hop scene.

Same in the house scene.

If our over over grand mothers would have claimed copyright on their cooking art, then we would be eating the same food they cooked 4 generations ago...
This would have good and bad sides, but no freedom to adjust to what food is available in at the market, so we actually could have died from hunger, wile having an abundance of other food sources.

Articles should be seen as recipies. Eat them , chew on them, enjoy the taste, refine the recipies, and share the cooking art.

:-) I'm sure you like the taste of that.

yesssss same wave length ! great minds think alike :)

vulcan mind melt!!!

You mentioned a few good points. Don’t get pissed...get even. 😉

Zero censorship is best. Let real users downvote. Seems like steemit is full of bots.

Quality original content is whats asked for. Why not give it to them?

Plagiarism is a no no.

What is the difference in allowing advertising icecream and let people make money on that, and disallowing otheres to advertise good music and to punish them for it. Not just by demonetising but on top of that giving bad ratings for GOOD MUSIC

It's plain idiotic to do that.

e proud of not having ads but allow icecream marketeers. Nothing against icecream, but double standards are the beginning of the end.

So please don't excuse the offender. I'm a DJ i promote music, and I've spend LOTS of money on music.

What steemit does I find offending.

I promote music that the mainsream media ignores. AND STEEMIT IS PUNISHING ME FOR IT.

Hypocrisy has to be stopped. What is steemit all about? Tell me?

I’m pretty new here. Your ice cream argument went over my head.

Has the cheetah and it’s cohorts explained or told you why they downvoted you? If so, show those screenshots.

Good music is always good.

Are you talking about copywriter infringement?

I’m all ears.

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Just look- up the vocal version of the dub I just posted and try to understand what the song is all about. Then put that into context. and discover the art of being a DJ by posting the dub and let people do the thinking. This is my way of expression. My way of COMMUNICATING with music.

If Steemit punished me for EXPRESSING MYSELF then steemit is being the hypocrite. And not a snap in front of the nose better then Twitter or Facebook, but merely a new flavour of the same shit.

I don't thing that's their intention, but it's happening and they should be aware of it.

Don't preach being against censorship and just do censorship under the guise of 'plagiarism'

I get this:
“Don't preach being against censorship and just do censorship under the guise of 'plagiarism”

I knew this was coming. We all knew. Nothing could be so perfect.

I feel you. Interesting to see how this will all pan out. The zero censorship for the blockchain is a shortlived truth, falicy or simply put - a lie.

I wouldn’t expect society to devolve. Legislation will change what you’re talking about. Until then, you’re probably wasting your time.

The word on the street is LTC and Facebook are going to collaborate. If that happens our “utopian blockchain dream” will be shattered.

Steemit 'preaches' / claims to be the anti-censorship platform.

If FB will take LTC that would indeed be bad, but all the more reason for steemit to be better then FB instead of being the different flavour of the same

The blockchain may well be the option against censorship, but this form of censorship is all the way around the blockchain right? Its a tyrannical bypass operation.

I'm not wasting time, i would be wasting time if i would be silent and accept this hypocritical bullshit. Unintended i'm sure, but that's not my problem.

I'm on steemit because of the non censorship promise and i found this issue and i'm not going to let it rest, as now is the time to fix this. Not wait until somewhre next year when everyone is used to 'Facebookian-tyranny'

Be the anti censorship platform and shine at it.

I wish I had some backing of specialists here, as my bandwidth is silencing me way to much.

https://steemit.com/psychology/@alien.nation/depression-recognizing-the-physical-symptoms#@alien.nation/re-bifilarcoil-re-aliennation-depression-recognizing-the-physical-symptoms-20180209t083521844z

Take close attention how the music relates to the article and how it communicates back to the writer of the article.

And the reaction of the writer of that article is more then I could ever had hoped for. :-)
If this aint proof of my artform then I don't know.

Art and communication are NOT plagiarism.

STOP STEEMIT CENSORSHIP.

Zero censorship it should be. This is why I keep hacking this issue with a blunt axe.
Mainly because i care about steemit and don't want it to get just as bad as twitter in a new form.

Can't help it, it really makes me angry.

cheetah is an oversimplified problem on top of a problem that is handled by the wrong people.
an ISP should not be policing it's users.

An ISP simply does not know enough about copyright and cheetah can't even see the difference in simple matters.

sure there is a problem, but this needs a very different approach

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