If you think your image is an accurate representation of what Steemit is and what Steemians are engaged in, then yes, you are wrong.
Can I ask why you would not use an NSFW tag on this post? Isn't it a simple matter of courtesy?
If you think your image is an accurate representation of what Steemit is and what Steemians are engaged in, then yes, you are wrong.
Can I ask why you would not use an NSFW tag on this post? Isn't it a simple matter of courtesy?
As a woman I would like to state that I do not find this cartoon offensive, women are not even depicted in it. Women know what sex is, and they have a sense of humour. Surely NSFW is for images that woman might consider are degrading to the female in the image and might have a disturbing effect on the person viewing the image?
It might have been a matter of courtesy to have a discussion with Skeptic and have him add the tag before you flagged him.
Do you not think that 4 flags is overkill? Can you see how to the casual observer that it looks like you felt personally attacked by the content of this post and flagged out of hostility and revenge rather than to defend women? Can you see that your actions rather highlight what Skeptic is saying?
Edit: Someone below says that it means "not suitable for work", so half my comment isn't relevant if that's the case but I still think a warning before a flag is the grown-up approach to take as it avoids conflict, assuming that conflict wasn't the goal here.
I didn't flag his post and yes, given the content of the image, I think it would have been courteous to tag with NSFW. There is no censorship involved.
I apologise if you weren't one of those who flagged.
It's debatable whether or not he needed that tag and it's pointless you repeating yourself, the tag is not the issue, the behaviour of the, "tag police" is the issue. Even if the tag absolutely was needed, they should have asked him to add it first and asked in a polite way in fitting with the power that they wield on Steemit, otherwise they are just power-crazy bullies that hang around in packs, like jackals, but without the laughter.
Ideally flagging and down-voting should be separated.
A flag means a curator thinks the author did something wrong with the content. A down-vote means a curator thinks the content / author should get less visibility and/or reward. Perhaps we also need a "disagree" button and/or a "dislike" button, for non-curation purpose.
Currently they're combined. After some time they will be separated when development completed.
By the way, the flag I cast was intended, for both purpose, I don't think it's abuse.
It's not debatable that his courtesy would have avoided this ugly outcome. Flagging is presently a legitimate means of influencing rewards and post visibility. To characterise their use as abuse is ridiculous, especially in relation to a post which is childishly contentious for its own sake.
Anything legitimate can be abused, so that isn't an argument. The fact is that flagging upsets people and when people are upset they are rarely the best version of themselves.
The content of the post isn't relevant to the discussion when the flag was for the tag, so also, not worth discussing. Surely the point of this discussion is to avoid similar, unnecessary conflict in the future. So, maybe a little flag etiquette is in order.
The guy who started the flagging, Abit, explained to me that his first flag was low power and simply a warning and that's probably reasonable for many people but we are all different, so I think a verbal warning before would avoid all this aggro in the future, then if it becomes necessary to flag, the flaggers are above reproach.
if you look at how the whales are acting about it all, their actions, your actions of upvoting your own comment on this post and how they are attacking me over a carton meme that was given an ok my @ned with the tags it has while at the same time defending @neds pos that does not have the nsfw tag and has actual nude picts in it then you would understand it is exctally how the cartoon looks.
can I ask why im getting flagged for something that doesn't need to be in the nsfw tag and why I am getting dogpiled my whales? its not about the tag as 1. it has been cleared byned that it doesn't need snfw tag and 2. why aren't you all going after #ned and his postwith actual nude picts and no nsfw tag?
Its a simple matter of logic.
my post did not misuse or abuse the tags, I have not flagged or defended myself yet from the attacks and yet the whales continue to flag me to try to hide this ordeal.
I have not created this ordeal they have. when I defend myself in the only way I can (and they know how I will do that) all of a sudden they will play the victim. its pathetic really.
so yes I feel it is an accurate representation of what Steemit is and what Steemians are engaged in. its ok to disagree but when I get attacked because someone disagrees and the rest of steem trys to justifiy it because they don't agree with an opinion it only proves my point correct.
thanks for leaving a comment and not flagging me like the others are doing. well unless you did flag me as I have not checked my flaggin yet, just woke up. if you did flag me then you are aware that I will defend myself and how so, yeah.
I do find it ditrty how you whales leave negitve comments and upvote yourself so you get paid out on a post that has been flagged to the point of no payout. dirty scam and not a good look imo.
You make statements that are simply untrue and your tone is aggressive and judgemental. Does that 'look' not concern you? I upvoted my comment here in order to give it visibility, a perfectly legitimate use of my stake. It has absolutely nothing to do with getting paid. I wouldn't expect something like that to occur to you right now because you appear to be very busy being caught up in your confrontational mindset and the drama of the situation you have helped to create.
Your threats to use gay porn comments as a retaliatory gesture do not seem very well thought through and I doubt it would have the outcome you want should you make good on those threats.
The current flag mechanism is what it is, flawed or not, people can use it to moderate rewards and register disproval of posts and comments. My own view is that the flag should only be used for plagiarism, abuse and spam. This is still subjective. I think it would have been courteous of you to mark your joke, given its graphical sexual content, with an NSFW tag. I wouldn't be happy about a very young person seeing it, but that's just me and that's the point. Regardless of the fact that the flag mechanism may be adapted, the best outcome for all Steemians is to try to work together to get the best out of the platform. Many are making every attempt to do just that and if all you can see are whales and corruption, why are you here?
I didn't flag you because I'd rather try to discuss this with you reasonably....though I think I can understand why others have flagged your post.
Irrespective of the truth behind your statement about ned finding your image not worthy of an NSFW tag, there are many other Steemians who may have a view.
I hope you'll consider not retaliating regardless of whatever flags you're post has and also that you might tag similar content with NSFW in the future. Sincerely, Ben.