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RE: What are the rules in steemit regarding advertisement and giveaways? How about bullying?

in #steemit7 years ago

Interesting information and questions. I do not have an answer but would also be interested to find out why they get flagged. I was thinking of doing a contest and the prize would only be a set SBD amount with not voting or resteeming requirements. Just an honest contest with a prize for the winner chosen. I wonder if that kind would be flagged as well. Hope you get your answers from someone that is better equipped to answer.

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I think the problem with this is that people who are running this type of giveaways are minnows as well who don't have much voting power.

This can be helpful if the person running it is a dolphin or a whale, this way he/she upvotes that giveaway to give it more SBD worth. If that dolphin or whale voting weight is $10 then it is fair to say he/she is giving away $5 to whoever upvoted that post.

So I reckon your giveaway is probably OK and I don't see the reason for it to be flagged. Just my opinion anyway.

I just edited the post asking others to resteem this post if they are also seeking answers. Hopefully someone will notice it and will enlighten us.

You don't get to be a whale by running these things. You get muted by whales, or even downvoted.

So you are trying to say that this type of giveaways are flagged or downvoted by whales or muted? Is it because it is just plain unethical?

I think others are doing it just to gain a little SP not to become a whale or dolphin. It will probably take them 100 years doing it before they can accumulate that much SP running this type of giveaways.

The problem is there is no guidelines on what you can and can't do.

Is that lawlessness a problem though, or a feature?
Whales typically want to see valuable content here, to drive adoption, and make it a top quality site.
Spammy 'giveaways' where 'players' aren't required to contribute content in any way, doesn't add any value to the platform so whales and dolphins like myself usually leave them alone, or even downvote them to discourage the practice.

Now this is why I have asked this questions and thank you very much @mattclarke for a very good point.

Those kind of giveaways would be considered as spammy because they are just posting exactly the same post over and over. It would be like plagiarism cutting and pasting someones post/blog/article but with this it's their own article getting cut and pasted over and over which is spammy.

If that explanation could be added to the comments of the post that was flagged would be sweet. This guys probably don't know that what they are doing is really a spam or whatever they call it, and not generating a good quality post.

That's one down, how about the advertising of product/service within your post or end of your post? Any ideas?

Again, its all personal taste. Some people might hate it, others like my self, don't really mind.
If you are promoting an idea or business in a banner at the end of your post, it sort of indicates that you plan on sticking around and building a following here.

Not having hard and fast rules is kind of good.
It lets the observant, insightful and creative succeed. The automatons can have the rest of the world.

Are you saying if someone wanted to have an ongoing contest like weekly or biweekly, it would be considered spam?

I see partially what you are saying but what if it does add to the community. Let’s say the participant needs to make their own post of a particular type and then just add the url link in the contest comments. That way they add content and not just a comment with their entry. And the winner would be paid a specific amount of sbd not based on what the post generates. Yes it may not help whomever is holding the contest but it could help the winner and possibly encourage more original content posting.

I'm not sure about others, but I have no problem with it, if it generates new, original content.
I just entered one like you described, yesterday myself. and even hosted a long running chess match last year (I lost, but made $300 when steem was only worth 10c).

Thanks for your reply and personal opinion on my question as well as @webcoop.

I’ve seen others that were getting flagged for no reason or explanation.

From the Steemit FAQ Page:

What are the valid reasons for downvoting?


Users are allowed to downvote for any reason that they want. There are many users in the community who recommend only using the downvote on posts that are abusive. It is up to you if you want to follow this etiquette.

yes it is a feature or a tool to make sure steemit is clean and true... but also nothing is stopping it from being abused.

I just saw a spam on some else's post where that spammer commenting his own MLM advertisement totally unrelated to the post. Also got flagged by @cheetah. That spam does deserve a downvote

but also nothing is stopping it from being abused.

When one steps back and thinks about it, there is absolutely nothing that can be done about people abusing people. Action can be taken After the act, but nothing stops abuse. Well that is not quite right, people can stop abusing other people, but only people can do that as a group and a whole, and you can never get ALL the people to do something.

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